Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:08 PM +0100 2005-06-14, Andy Heath wrote: > If the mailman developer community adopts the FHS for > mailman then that's a different story entirely and > I would follow without complaint. SELinux and the FHS are both specific to a particular OS -- Linux. We have to support dozens

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-14 Thread Andy Heath
>>OFF-TOPIC below: >> >>Standards compliance (fedora) is one thing (I work in standards) >>but when everyone already has a fine standard (put it in the >>mailman user directory) and the community has no plans >>to change that then i find it very silly to just throw >>that away > > > The director

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-14 Thread John Dennis
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 09:50 +0100, Andy Heath wrote: > If someone could do an ls -R or ls -lR (if there are links) > of a 2.1.5 mailman directory and post it it would help figure > out where fedora puts all the pieces (I'll build a list of > links from it so it looks like a normal mailman director

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-14 Thread Andy Heath
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Andy Heath wrote: > >>so how does "subject:.*[SPAM}.*" (admitredly meaning s or p etc) trigger >>the behaviour but "subject.*spam" not trigger it ? > > > Because on the second and subsequent passes through it is looking at > the subject of the notice to the owner which cont

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Andy Heath wrote: > >so how does "subject:.*[SPAM}.*" (admitredly meaning s or p etc) trigger >the behaviour but "subject.*spam" not trigger it ? Because on the second and subsequent passes through it is looking at the subject of the notice to the owner which contains 's', 'p', 'a' and 'm' but no

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Andy Heath wrote: >Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> Andy Heath wrote: >> >>>they don't show as fails at all. What appears to happen is >>>mailman keeps trying to send the mail and succeeding >>>but it keeps doing it again and again. Meanwhile no >>>mail leaves, it just sits in the spool dir. >> >> >>

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-13 Thread Andy Heath
Mark, >> Since this subject matches .*[spam].*, the message to the owner is >> identified as spam and the whole thing goes again. > Not sure I understand you. It doesn't get as far as the usual > sendmail queues. How does the subject get parsed twice ? > > The solution is to not use regexps

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-13 Thread Andy Heath
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Andy Heath wrote: > >>they don't show as fails at all. What appears to happen is >>mailman keeps trying to send the mail and succeeding >>but it keeps doing it again and again. Meanwhile no >>mail leaves, it just sits in the spool dir. > > > What spool directory? The MTA'

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Andy Heath wrote: > >they don't show as fails at all. What appears to happen is >mailman keeps trying to send the mail and succeeding >but it keeps doing it again and again. Meanwhile no >mail leaves, it just sits in the spool dir. What spool directory? The MTA's? >The data directory fills up

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-13 Thread Andy Heath
>>subject:.*[SPAM].* > > > The upper/lower case is immaterial as thes matches ale all > 'ignorecase', but you don't want the above regexp in any case since > [SPAM] is a character set so the regexp matches anything with an 's', > 'p', 'a' or 'm' in the subject. > > I don't know what would cause

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Andy Heath wrote: > >1. regex matching with some regex'es >causes mailman to loop trying to send >mail to the list-owner and failing. > >e.g. >this seems ok > >subject:.*spam > >but this one causes looping > >subject:.*[SPAM].* The upper/lower case is immaterial as thes matches ale all 'ignorecase

[Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-13 Thread Andy Heath
Using 2.1.5 on fedora cors 3. Run an old mailman for years but just setting this one up afresh. Two probs - some regexes and preventing spams going to moderators while holding them back: 1. regex matching with some regex'es causes mailman to loop trying to send mail to the list-owner and failing