Re: [Mailman-Users] Redacted Email Address in Feedback Loop

2014-08-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Will Yardley writes: > I think munging the headers is a sensible practice, as it makes it > a little harder to listwash; the main idea of the FBL as I understand it > is to give you an idea when there's some kind of gross abuse, That's what they say, but in many cases that's not what they do.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redacted Email Address in Feedback Loop

2014-08-18 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 18:22 +, John Levine wrote: > >I think munging the headers is a sensible practice, as it makes it > >a little harder to listwash; the main idea of the FBL as I understand it > >is to give you an idea when there's some kind of gross abuse, not that > >you are required to un

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redacted Email Address in Feedback Loop

2014-08-18 Thread John Levine
>I think munging the headers is a sensible practice, as it makes it >a little harder to listwash; the main idea of the FBL as I understand it >is to give you an idea when there's some kind of gross abuse, not that >you are required to unsubscribe anyone who complains about your mail. Munging FBLs

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redacted Email Address in Feedback Loop

2014-08-18 Thread Will Yardley
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 04:55:52PM -0700, Peter Knowles wrote: > What is the best way to deal with feedback loop messages where the provider > has redacted the email address of the party who filed the complaint? I haven't looked at a FBL message for a while, but most of the ones I've seen didn't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redacted Email Address in Feedback Loop

2014-08-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Lindsay Haisley writes: > If you grok MM internals a bit and understand withlist and python, and > don't mind importing the Python Crypto library I can send you the > information on this hack, but I'd rather turn it over to the MM people > for some sort of public posting so everyone can have a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redacted Email Address in Feedback Loop

2014-08-18 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 12:33 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Peter Knowles writes: > > > What is the best way to deal with feedback loop messages where the > > provider has redacted the email address of the party who filed the > > complaint? > > What do you want to do with this information?

[Mailman-Users] Redacted Email Address in Feedback Loop

2014-08-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Peter Knowles writes: > What is the best way to deal with feedback loop messages where the > provider has redacted the email address of the party who filed the > complaint? What do you want to do with this information? Just unsubscribe that user? I'd say pass the buck back to the provider.

[Mailman-Users] Redacted Email Address in Feedback Loop

2014-08-17 Thread Peter Knowles
Hi, What is the best way to deal with feedback loop messages where the provider has redacted the email address of the party who filed the complaint? Does Mailman have any built in methods on dealing with this issue? At the moment we "force" a custom footer on all messages which includes the reci