out at 5 and changed to 10 seconds, as it wasn't getting everything.
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* Mark Sapiro :
SUBSCRIBE_FORM_MIN_TIME = seconds(number)
What's a good value? 5?
It's difficult to say. I've thought 5 was good, but I've seen a recent
attack where a bot would GET the form and wait 15 sec
tely.
What's a good value? 5?
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> I have a couple lists that are under some kind of subscription
> attack. There are thousands of subscription requests being held. I
> have things set to delete held messages after
can't find anything in UI.
Is there a sub-directory I can empty?
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site) webmaster@ and (if used in DNS SOA
records) hostmaster@. All competent, responsible, professionals (and even
competent, responsible amateurs) support these: it's systems admin 101.
LOL. Have you seen sExchange'365?
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Brie Yoder via Mailman-Users writes:
> [Running Mailman 2.1.39 on Dreamhost]
I don't know much about Dreamhost. Is this managed by cPanel or a
similar system, or do you have direct access to Mailman?
> I am attempting to create a 2-tiered list of subscribers to a
> Mailm
find anything which would allow this. Does this functionality exist in
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At 12:38 PM 6/28/2025, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 6/28/25 09:46, David Andrews via Mailman-Users wrote:
There is stuff about the "secret form?" would
this work? If I understand it, the IP must
match. Then there is stuff about the life of
the form? Do both conditions have to be
true
On 6/28/25 09:46, David Andrews via Mailman-Users wrote:
There is stuff about the "secret form?" would this work? If I
understand it, the IP must match. Then there is stuff about the life of
the form? Do both conditions have to be true.? Many of our users do not
return a form qui
The writing suggests five seconds, that would
never work for us.
Are there other things we can do to get us out of this mess?
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I've recently upgraded an ancient 2.1.12 mailman installation to 2.1.39 and
noticed an encoding issue, when adding users via add_members.
Steps to reproduce and fix the issue:
1. Put these accented user names in an utf-8 file (
n.po
9. Switch the main language to it(alian).
10. Repeat 4&5: no garbage
Not sure it this might affect also other languages.
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the section beginning with the line
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spam.
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> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mailman.example.com'
> VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
> ```
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> Any clues would be greatly appreciated.
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uot;Postfix"
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DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'example.com'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mailman.example.com'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
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he default, so presumably you've done something
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=
hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/smtpd_sender_login_maps.txt
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Do those give a clue?
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DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'example.com'
DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'mailman.example.com'
VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)
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Indeed my delimiter is +, so seems this setting makes little difference
either way.
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Stephen,
Thanks very much for your detailed reply!
I'll just leave the postfix default then.
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On 4/29/25 06:31, Ralf Hildebrandt via Mailman-Users wrote:
Just received word about those three:
https://github.com/0NYX-MY7H/CVE-2025-43921
-- wasn't able to reproduce on 2.1.39
https://github.com/0NYX-MY7H/CVE-2025-43920
-- wasn't able to reproduce on 2.1.39, due to no
On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 9:32 AM Ralf Hildebrandt via Mailman-Users <
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> Just received word about those three:
>
> https://github.com/0NYX-MY7H/CVE-2025-43921
> -- wasn't able to reproduce on 2.1.39
>
Same for me. All this "exploi
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On 4/8/25 21:30, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Mark Sapiro writes:
> On 4/8/25 07:06, Abbas Butt via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > TypeError: 'int' object is not subscriptable.
Sure looks like spam intended to phish us into clicking on an
unrelated link.
I thought so too
Mark Sapiro writes:
> On 4/8/25 07:06, Abbas Butt via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > TypeError: 'int' object is not subscriptable.
Sure looks like spam intended to phish us into clicking on an
unrelated link.
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On 4/8/25 07:06, Abbas Butt via Mailman-Users wrote:
TypeError: 'int' object is not subscriptable.
Where are you seeing this error? If there is a traceback associated with
it, what is it.
Note that if this is a question about Mailman 3, the appropriate list is
at https://lists.ma
TypeError: 'int' object is not subscriptable.
do let me know if someone can help me out on this: https://getaichatbots.com/
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> As you correctly point out, it does restrict the availability of
> support for cPanel Mailman 2.2 users to the vendor currently. The GNU
> Mailman Project has no interest in providing it now or in the future.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
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> On 2025-03-29 at 19:04:09 UTC-0400 (Sat, 29 Mar 2025 19:04:09 -0400)
> Webmaster EnergyJustice via Mailman-Users
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> > My user is getting this error when they try to enter any of the
> > name-augmented mass subscription formats in
he future.
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On 3/29/25 16:04, Webmaster EnergyJustice via Mailman-Users wrote:
My user is getting this error when they try to enter any of the
name-augmented mass subscription formats in the guide:
https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20can%20I%20Mass%20Subscribe%20a%20list%20with%20real%20names
I've tried
or it is best sought from cPanel, wherever they may provide support.
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My user is getting this error when they try to enter any of the
name-augmented
stions.
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On 2025-03-27 at 16:46:38 UTC-0400 (Thu, 27 Mar 2025 21:46:38 +0100)
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Hi all
Mailman 2.2.0 on cPanel
There is no version 2.2.* of the public version of Mailman.
You issue needs to be taken up with cPanel. They've forked Mailman
Christian Buser via Mailman-Users writes:
> Mailman 2.2.0 on cPanel
GNU Mailman 2's latest release is 2.1.39. We cannot help you. We
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> On Mar 27, 2025, at 3:46 PM, Christian Buser via Mailman-Users
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> Hi all
>
> Mailman 2.2.0 on cPanel
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> In the last few days, several messages (not all!) sh
zMail, Outlook (Mac),
etc.
Please ask if you need more info - I’ll try to answer them.
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> Please let me know if there are any settings that I can set. I
> don't want to change any html code for the same.
It helps to explain why you don't want to change the HTML code,
because there are several ways to do this, with different implicati
Ninad N. Shaha via Mailman-Users writes:
> Please let me know if there are any settings that I can set. I
> don't want to change any html code for the same.
It helps to explain why you don't want to change the HTML code,
because there are several ways to do this, with differ
On 3/25/25 1:39 PM, Ninad N. Shaha via Mailman-Users wrote:
Myself Ninad. I recently installed Mailman3. I am new to MM3.
This list is for Mailman 2.1. For Mailman 3, please use
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On 3/25/25 1:39 PM, Ninad N. Shaha via Mailman-Users wrote:
Myself Ninad. I recently installed Mailman3. I am new to MM3. As per my
organization's policy, I need to turn off the version disclosure of
Mailman Core, Postorius, and Hyperkitty. Specifically shown in the footer.
Please l
et. I don't
want to change any html code for the same.
Please guide me in this regard.
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Wow, the appearance in this web interface is even worse than the appearance in
my email client. There's no large text, and the lines are broken at about every
78 characters or so.
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> Hi, Mark, thanks for replying.
>
> This is what appears when I choose "View -> Message Source" in Evolution:
This appears to be from your "Sent" folder, not the message as
received via the mailing list. I suspect Mark wan
either as plain text or HTML formatted.
Thanks for any suggestions you have.
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>
>
>Instead, they were resent and appeared like this:
>
>
> For your information, and please publicize:=0D=0A=C2=A0=0D=0AFREE ON-
&
04 running Evolution 3.52.3 email client.
Email lists running version 2.2.0.
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https://sprunkii.io
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local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/lists/nome-announce_nomekennelclub.com/digest.mbox:
'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x93 in position 104: invalid start byte
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> At 01:49 AM 3/11/2025, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> >It appears cPanel Mailman is now running under Python 3. I'm not
> >surprised there are issues. Migrating Mailman 2.1 to Python 3 is
> >not an easy task,
>
> The other da
"taking over the maintenance of
Mailman." Not sure what they meant, but I guess
we are starting to see the fallout of this!
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how many of the subscribers actually look at the archives.. but I would like to get it sorted.
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Mar 11 04:26:43 compute.nomekennelclub.com systemd[1]: Failed to start mailman
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On 3/6/25 4:05 AM, Eva Isaksson via Mailman-Users wrote:
Also the list archive seems to have lost the "lists" part of the URL.
After trying to refresh the configuration of this list, the problem
persists. How to fix this?
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vice (priceless ;-) for the usual
price (also priceless), as long as you're OK with mailing list lags.
With a little planning, you can almost surely do the migration
incrementally and reversibly -- mailing list lags rarely need impact
your subscribers.
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Macs R We via Mailman-Users writes:
> I believe I have solved the nondelivery problem by increasing the
> munging isolation factor from "rewrite header" to "enclose in
> wrapper."
I'm glad you're using the wrapper option: I conceived and implemented
that
"enclose in wrapper."
Thanks for your help in identifying those two wiki pages. I'm sure I will have
occasion to refer to them in the future
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> I tried posting this twice at the website and it appears to
> blackholed both times, don’t know whether it’s a new-user
> moderating thing or what. So apologies if this is a duplicate
It's non-subscriber moderation. I don't know abou
ve provided but left blank, and I'm buffaloed.
Where is Mailman getting this value from, and how to I change it to something
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all of the non-mailman emails get signed by
template.missourimasternaturalists.org
Which also appears to be the sender domain for list mail. so I'm lost as
to why list mail isn't signed.
This is a question for an Ex
all of the non-mailman emails get signed by
template.missourimasternaturalists.org
how do I execute that command ??
${perl{get_dkim_domain}}
return a domain or list of domains including the mailman list domain?
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Here is the code that Is in the exim.conf - but looks like greek to me :)
I do know that all of the domains are listed and have correct dkim entries in
the dns.
Do you know of anyone that actually has a mailman 2.1.39 installation
rivate/$primary_hostname:default
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On 1/28/25 11:55, jerry.barnabee--- via Mailman-Users wrote:
Event: success success
Sender User:-remote-
Sender Domain:
From Address: members-boun...@template.missourimasternaturalists.org
So this is mail from a list.
...
Router: dkim_lookuphost
Transport: dkim_remote_smtp
D: 1tcobl-0003JyD-2Leu
Delivery Host: smtpgwin.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp
Delivery IP:207.54.83.63
Size: 79.83 KB
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Jerry Barnabee via Mailman-Users writes:
> Thanks for your reply. I am replying directly to your email as I
> didn't see your reply in the threads of my original post.
It's there in the archive. I recently retired and they cut off my
email for several months (despite being
jerry.barnabee--- via Mailman-Users writes:
> CPANEL does all the heavy lifting for me - e.g. I don't have to add
> any code anywhere - the only thing that I have to do is make sure
> the correct spf, dkim and dmarc dns records exist on my name server
> for each of my domai
ently started enforcing the DKIM standard and what makes it worse is that
they all seem to be taking different approaches to that enforcement. Could also
be that most of the mailman users are using mailman 3.xx - but unfortunately
CPANEL does not support that version - they recently let me know
On 1/25/25 12:30, jerry.barnabee--- via Mailman-Users wrote:
CPANEL does all the heavy lifting for me - e.g. I don't have to add any code
anywhere - the only thing that I have to do is make sure the correct spf, dkim
and dmarc dns records exist on my name server for each of my domains-
PANEL on
my VPS servers - unix administration is not my strong suit ... about all I can
say is that I do know how to spell unix .
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