Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Installing Mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris

2007-04-09 Thread vancleef
The esteemed David Devereaux-Weber, P.E. has said: > > Hank, > > I'm still not succeeding in building Mailman. I'd like to follow > another path. Can you explain why Tcl/TK don't build? The Python make > install command fatals there, and doesn't complete copying some of the > modules into t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Installing Mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris 10

2007-04-04 Thread vancleef
The esteemed David Devereaux-Weber has said: > > Hank, > > Thanks for your help! > > I installed Python 2.4.4. I did receive errors that tcl and something > else didn't install. Now, the Mailman install script still finds > /opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213 . Can you tell me wher

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Installing Mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris 10

2007-03-25 Thread vancleef
The esteemed David Devereaux-Weber has said: > > I'm having a problem with building mailman 2.1.9 on Solaris 10. No problems > with configure or make, but make install breaks. > > Here is an extract: > > /opt/csw/lib/python2.3/distutils/dist.py:213: There's your problem. > > Does anyone see

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mm-handler user unknown problem

2007-03-23 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Kammen van, Marco, Springer SBM NL has said: > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kammen van, Marco, Springer SBM NL > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 4:22 PM > To: mailman-users@python.org > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mm-handler user unknown problem > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam, AOL and server names

2007-03-22 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Patrick Bogen has said: > > To reiterate what Brad said, please see FAQ 3.42. It specifically > talks about this issue. > > On 3/22/07, Dennis Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The percentage of our mail that AOL rejects is just huge - around 90% - > > I was hoping that maybe som

Re: [Mailman-Users] Server migration question

2007-03-19 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Steve Burling has said: > > So, we pretty much successfully moved our mailman installation from the old > Solaris box to the new Red Hat box. > > Only one small problem. Of course. > > We (and by we, I mean me) had failed to reduce the TTL for the MX record > that points to our m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trapping messages with null subjects sent to list

2007-03-13 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Mark Sapiro has said: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Is there a recipe to put in the spam filters that will trap a totally > >empty subject line in a message? This get posted to a list with > >(no subject) in the subject line, but this is evidently added after > >the spam filte

[Mailman-Users] Integrating Sendmail and Solaris (installation guide)

2007-03-11 Thread vancleef
Mailman, in its default configuration, readily integrates with a properly-configured sendmail installation. The discussion below gives specific file locations for a Solaris 9 installation. Solaris 10 locates the sendmail control file sources in /etc/mail/cf rather than /usr/lib/mail/cf. Locati

Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail and solaris stuff

2007-03-11 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Barry Warsaw has said: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Feb 27, 2007, at 10:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Since you guys aren't working with either Sendmail or Solaris, I think > > it would be best for me to walk through and record the entire proces

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Brad Knowles has said: > > At 9:19 PM -0700 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Tell me that isn't true, Mark. From this mail list administrator's > > perspective, "I can't find/use my password" ranks just below the AOL > > flaming demands that we unsubscribe them NOW! > > Wh

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-09 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Brad Knowles has said: > > At 8:46 PM -0700 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Maybe this is a good time to ask just how DNS-intensive the > > non-sendmail MTA's are. I am finishing off the basics on installing > > sendmail with Mailman, and am including some discussion of th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-08 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Dragon has said: > > This may just be the time needed to resolve the dns lookups for the > outgoing mail. > > You may want to consider using a caching dns resolver to cache the > sddresses for some reasonable period. Getting the resolved addresses > out of cache will be much faste

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-08 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Mark Sapiro has said: > > In the longer term (Mailman 2.2) password reminders and the site list > are both going away. > Tell me that isn't true, Mark. From this mail list administrator's perspective, "I can't find/use my password" ranks just below the AOL flaming demands that we un

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman an sendmail receiveing mails

2007-03-08 Thread vancleef
0 Mar 02 ? 46:29 /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=OutgoingRunner:0: mailman 6899 1110 0 Mar 02 ?2:47 /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=IncomingRunner:0: vancleef 602 493 0 10:24:12 pts/30:00 grep qrun mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trouble with mailman external responses

2007-03-07 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Barry Warsaw has said: > > Which ISP do you use? I have a static IP from my cable company but > they refuse to give me an rDNS entry. In every other way, I really > like them, but I do get bounces occasionally from people's (IMHO) > misconfigured MTAs who don't accept mail fro

[Mailman-Users] Trapping messages with null subjects sent to list

2007-03-02 Thread vancleef
Is there a recipe to put in the spam filters that will trap a totally empty subject line in a message? This get posted to a list with (no subject) in the subject line, but this is evidently added after the spam filter check. I've tried \n, which catches these, but it also catches too many re

Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail and solaris stuff

2007-02-27 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Barry Warsaw has said: > > Thanks Hank. I haven't used Sendmail in 20 years, so if there is > some specific text you'd like to see added (or preferably a patch to > the latex file), please feel free to send it directly to me and I'll > push up a doc update. > Barry (and Mark)

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not

2007-02-25 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Mark Sapiro has said: > > Jason Luck wrote: > > > >Why is the default in DaemonPortOptions set for 127.0.0.1 as opposed to a > >broader range? It would seem most folks would want to be able to external > >mail through their box and from what I'm learning would require the > >127.0

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not

2007-02-23 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Mark Sapiro has said: > > Jason Luck wrote: > > >Thanks for the response, unfortunately my limited knowledge on these > >matters leaves me at a dead end. Not sure how to change any of these > >items or where to go from here. > > > You fix it in your sendmail configuration by tel

[Mailman-Users] list member address change by moderator

2007-02-23 Thread vancleef
Is there a mechanism for a list administrator to change a list member address without going through the confirmation dialog. I've got a case where [EMAIL PROTECTED] wants to become [EMAIL PROTECTED] While the confirmation goes to newisp.com and requires the listmember response, I'd prefer to have

[Mailman-Users] Adding Mhonarc to existing Mailman installation

2007-02-20 Thread vancleef
I am building a new Mailman 2.1.9 installation tree, and want to configure it with Mhonarc and Mnogosearch. I notice that the Mhonarc patches change the config.pck version number from 96 to 96.2 because there seem to be some changes to the file definition. I have signed up on the mmi mailman-mno

Re: [Mailman-Users] Best version of Python to use with Mailman

2007-02-13 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Brad Knowles has said: > > Use the latest version of 2.4.x. As you've demonstrated, the 2.5 > stuff is not yet fully baked, and Mailman 2.1.8 and earlier are not > compatible with it. $DEITY-only-knows what else they're going to > break in the process of trying to "fix" 2.5. > >

[Mailman-Users] Best version of Python to use with Mailman 2.1.9?

2007-02-12 Thread vancleef
Now that I've got Mailman up and running relatively smoothly in "production" mode, I've taken some time to revisit questions primarily involving Python. The Mailman installation I am running has several non-standard lashups and workarounds that really need some cleanup, and Mark Sapiro has convinc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Challenge/Response

2007-02-10 Thread vancleef
> > The problem remains, however: How do I prevent spoofing? In this case they > have a real fear due to a board member who is soon to be ejected from the > board and have organizational membership taken away. They feel he is capable > (both emotionally and technically) of major disturbances on on

Re: [Mailman-Users] Challenge/response

2007-02-08 Thread vancleef
> > I have a client who is concerned about his list subscriber addresses being > spoofed. In other words someone who knows the addresses of people on the > list can set up a mail server and spoof the subscriber so he can post nasty > things to the list. He would like to set up a challenge/response

[Mailman-Users] mailman user account and login

2007-02-04 Thread vancleef
I thought I'd pose this question to the list. The mailman installation manual seems to imply that the mailman account should be added with no ability to log in to it. I translated what appeared to me to be the sense of the line given to Solaris. However, after having gone through several fire

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman installation on Solaris 10 crashes

2007-02-03 Thread vancleef
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Feb 2, 2007, at 1:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > crashing on install of the Japanese and Korean Codecs. I swapped some > > offlist E-mails with Barry Sapiro and told him that I would > > I'm almost afraid to ask who "Barry Sapir

[Mailman-Users] Mailman installation on Solaris 10 crashes

2007-02-01 Thread vancleef
A couple of weeks ago there were two or three posts about Mailman crashing on install of the Japanese and Korean Codecs. I swapped some offlist E-mails with Barry Sapiro and told him that I would investigate this for him when I did a fresh install of Solaris 10 on a box to be used as a Mailman ma

[Mailman-Users] Can't create a new list

2007-01-30 Thread vancleef
I'm trying to create a new list on a Mailman 2.1.9 installation. The list is set up at www.mydomain.net with virtual hosting of otherdomain.com. When I use either www.mydomain.net or www.otherdomain.com to get to mailman/create, and try to create the new list, every try returns me Error: Unknow

Re: [Mailman-Users] migrating Mailman server

2007-01-29 Thread vancleef
> > I have the task of setting up a replacement for an existing > Mailman/Postfix server. I am new to Mailman and I am looking for some > guidance in this transition. Mailman is currently being used solely as > a diffusion of information. That is, it does not accept contributions > from lis