On 7/27/2018 4:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> Yes, there are existing formats that at least mostly represent this in
> the message itself, but not for display. Especially that currently the
> wrapping message would say it is from the list, but you really want
> some way for it to say that in the MUA
On 7/26/2018 9:19 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Jordan Brown writes:
>
> > Well, yeah, but to provide such a service in a way that has any
> > resemblance to being secure, Intuit *must* have some secret that allows
> > it to send mail "from" those subdomai
On 7/25/2018 5:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> Yes, one set of solutions would involve defining standards of how to
> compose composite messages, with standards on how to display them. A
> major part of the current issue is that for anything more than a
> single part plain text you can't be sure how
On 7/25/2018 2:53 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Note that if I were intuit.com's CISO, I would fight tooth and nail
> against the system you suggest, because it implies that I have DKIM
> private keys for all those subdomains owned by clients. Every spammer
> in the world would be trying to hac
Hmm. It would take MUA changes to be fully effective, but a possibility
that comes to mind is to have mailing lists leave the original message
absolutely unmodified, but wrap it in a message that comes "from" the
mailing list. That way everything about the message is verifiably true.
A list-awar
[ This was getting pretty long and a bit repetitive, so I trimmed it
brutally. It's still pretty long, sigh. ]
On 2/6/2018 2:09 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > But: in my work contexts, it is quite common for a discussion to span
> > two teams. Again, a "reply" that goes to the List-Post a
On 2/5/2018 12:29 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> The question I asked, which you misinterpreted completely IMO, and
> Grant partially agreed with is "Does an algorithm which 1. gives
> overriding precedence to Reply-To, 2. otherwise if List-Post is
> present directs it there, and 3. finally falls
On 1/30/2018 6:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 01/30/2018 04:53 PM, Jordan Brown wrote:
>> (that is, first_strip_reply_to=No, reply_goes_to_list=This List)
>>
>> Then if user A sends a message to the list without a Reply-To, replies
>> will go to the list, but if user B
[ Feh. My biggest MUA<->ML nuisance is that I don't have a way to force
replies to use the custom From address that I use for that mailing
list. Grant, sorry for the dup. ]
On 1/30/2018 3:42 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> On 01/30/2018 03:11 PM, Jordan Brown wrote
On 1/30/2018 2:09 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> The only problem then is list mail will seldom land in the list
> sub-folders as the direct replies should almost always come first and
> land in inbox.
That depends entirely on how you design your filters. My Mailman filter
looks for From, To, CC, or
On 1/30/2018 1:33 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> So I'm curious how the Reply-To: being set to the same thing as the
> From: causes any problems here.
There are those who would consider it a problem if your mailing list is
(mis:-)configured to add "Reply-To: " if there is no existing
On 1/30/2018 11:46 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> The more we discuss this and the longer that this thread goes on,
> makes me think that this should be a user configurable action that the
> MUA prompts the user for what they want to reply to in the ambiguous case.
Even getting agreem
On 1/29/2018 9:56 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > (And that's another of the key items: the "Reply-To: "
> > configuration makes it *difficult* to reply to the author, and that
> > seems just plain rude.)
>
> Why? Nobody is talking about taking away anybody's Reply-To-Author
> function, and
On 1/28/2018 8:40 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> I believe that many users think
> of mailing lists as fundamentally different from personal email, and
> they would like their MUAs to distinguish automatically. This
> algorithm, I believe, would do a pretty good job of that.
This particular us
On 1/24/2018 9:19 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> I understand your logic. It seems reasonable enough. I still
> disagree with it. - By the way the sun is purple. ;-) We can agree
> to disagree.
I think that's probably the end result :-)
>> And yes, those are all very real cases
On 1/24/2018 4:48 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> On 01/24/2018 10:40 AM, Jordan Brown wrote:
>> If a message had only List-Post and From, that wouldn't get the
>> result that I would want. I would want Reply to go to the author. As
>> a list member,
On 1/24/2018 12:50 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> I think there's an obvious algorithm for "smart single reply":
>
> 1. If there is a Reply-To, address the message to Reply-To.
> 2. Else if there is a List-Post, address the message to List-Post.
> 3. Else address the message to From. (If ther
[ Mark, sorry for the dup. Sent from the wrong address, so the copy to
the mailing list bounced. ]
On 12/28/2017 1:27 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 12/28/2017 11:57 AM, Jordan Brown wrote:
>> That's leading me to wonder whether there's another way, whether I can
>> leave
[ Today is not my day for getting details right. Sigh. ]
On 12/28/2017 11:57 AM, Jordan Brown wrote:
> I've been running my mailing list for a few years with "Munge From" to
> defend against DMARC rejection. This means that my messages get
>
> From: Joe User
Th
I've been running my mailing list for a few years with "Munge From" to
defend against DMARC rejection. This means that my messages get
From: Joe User
Reply-To: Joe User
That mostly works, but sometimes confuses people a bit, and just now
I've had somebody send what I think was intended
On 12/7/2017 9:15 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> On 12/07/17 00:43, Ron Beatteay via Mailman-Users wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I’m new to mailman. My previous Listserv platform ( LSoft ) made it easy to
>> reply to discussions by automatically sending replies to the list. With
>> mailman, replies go to
On 12/7/2017 10:21 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> This is a religious dispute.
Yep.
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On 11/11/2017 11:04 AM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> On 2017-11-11 12:22, Phil Stracchino wrote:
>> Heh, I just looked at that myself. How did such a useless tool ever
>> become standard?
> My guess is IIRC SunOS was on Solaris 8 by 2001, and it was *the*
> grown-up 64-bit unix: every other unix vendor
On 10/11/2017 11:53 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 10/11/2017 07:46 AM, Jordan Brown wrote:
>> What I'd like would be a way to ask Mailman to notify me on *every*
>> bounce, without disabling the user.
>>
>> (Or, of course, if there's just something I've mis
My mailing list is hosted on a low-cost service with shared servers and
so a couple of times a year some other customer gets them onto a spam
blacklist and mail starts bouncing. I need to know about those
situations ASAP so that I can prod the provider into fixing the problem
and requesting delist
On 8/6/2017 11:36 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Unfortunately, you can assume that the large freemail services do not
> care what you think.
Yep.
50% :-)
50% :-(
> I'm not sure why they've all gone substantially
> downhill in the last decade, but they have. Probably they get
> complaints and
On 8/4/2017 2:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> My theory is that MS is (wrongly) dropping the "To" copy of list1 from
>> the reply because it's the From, and then (correctly) using the Reply-To
>> instead of the From.
> It looks to me as if your theory is correct, except I wouldn't say
> "wrongly". I t
On 8/4/2017 12:51 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> I'm aware of issues with Microsoft services adding 'spoofing' warnings
> to messages where the From: address and the To: address are the same.
> Is this what you were referring to by "Setting it to the list name
> interacts badly with outloook.com and hotm
On 8/4/2017 8:24 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 08/03/2017 07:15 PM, Jordan Brown wrote:
>> Is there a way to control the From value when it gets munged so we pass
>> DMARC?
> There's no configuration for it, but it's a simple patch.
Thanks. Alas, I'm a hosting-
Is there a way to control the From value when it gets munged so we pass
DMARC?
Setting it to the list name interacts badly with outloook.com and
hotmail.com replies. Since the From address really isn't used (because
there's a Reply-To), it seems like it could be anything that's at the
host domain
So I guess there are two variables at work here that determine latency:
how long it takes to do one message, and how many messages are ahead of
you.
Any ideas why this is taking so long or where else I could look to check
into it?
Thanks,
/jordan
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When I attempt to create a new mailing list at http://localhost/create I
receive the following error:
Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists
I'm running mailman on RH9.
Thanks
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Is this supported in 2.1.2 ...?
I'm trying to have two separate installations on the same machine, and I
need one of them to have a different name so that Sendmail's smrsh
doesn't get confused ... can I just change the name of the binary from
mailman to something
mailman37732 Sep 13 10:19 mailman*
72 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mailman36096 Aug 31 2002 wrapper*
This has been working fine. Any ideas?
Thanks,
/jordan
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k scan to look for 'legit'
messages, you can drop them all in one click.
You're welcome; that'll be $1.5M.
:-)
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try:
>execfile(file)
>msg = Message.Message(StringIO(__main__.mailman_text))
>except:
>pass
Does this work? If I set that attribute to a program such as stripmime,
will it do the right thing? It looks like I have to put it into
ts a log in the
/var/log/auth.log among others. Is there a workaround for this that I should be
aware of? It just seems silly to fill the logs with this information every
minute.
Thanks,
Jordan Dahlke
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ine, a user can be removed?
2. Have fatal "undeliverable" notices automatically remove that user from
the list?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Jordan Graham
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subject line, a user can be removed?
2. Have fatal
"undeliverable" notices automatically remove that user from the
list?
Thanks in advance
for your help.
Jordan
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