Re: [Mailman-Users] MM3 book in the works

On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 12:07 Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 05:27:01PM +0000, Tom Browder wrote: > > I would love to see a new book on MM3. Anyone know of such a project > > proposed or in the works? > > I've been working on a book about mailing

[Mailman-Users] MM3 book in the works

I would love to see a new book on MM3. Anyone know of such a project proposed or in the works? FWIW, the new Perl 6 world (see https://perl6.org) has produced several books in the last year and some were started via various “fund me” websites. Best regards, -Tom

[Mailman-Users] MM3 and analytics

Are there any hooks or plugins or known solutions to gathering MM3 analytics similar to, say, Dada Mail? Thanks. -Tom -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http

[Mailman-Users] MM 3 Docker install question ref Apache use

Is the apache requirement a reverse proxy? A link to a working solution for apache would be very helpful for us non-expert apache users. In the meantime I will look for one. I look foward to using the docker solution. Thanks so much to all the MM3 dev team! Best regards, -Tom --

[Mailman-Users] Scrubbing incoming mail (e.g., strip bottom from top posters)

Soon I hope to get mm3 up and running and reactivate some old mm2 lists and start new ones. I anticipate voluminous messages from the many people I correspond with who have no clue (in spite of my pleas) about the problems of top posting in mailing lists, as well as html mail and voluminous attach

Re: [Mailman-Users] Which is most popular: OR ?

On Sunday, February 14, 2016, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/14/2016 05:23 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > > In my old MM 2 lists I used the second form (without "lists") and I > > still want to use that form with MM 3. > > > > Are there any reasons why I shou

[Mailman-Users] Which is most popular: OR ?

In my old MM 2 lists I used the second form (without "lists") and I still want to use that form with MM 3. Are there any reasons why I shouldn't use the second form? In my opinion, the second form may be easier for inexperienced mailing list users, but, on the other hand, the first form makes it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a preferred owner and group of the MM2 directory "/usr/local/mailman?"

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: ... > If you have Mailman-Postfix integration, you don't want to set the owner of > Mailman's data/aliases.db to root. > > Mailman's bin/check_perms is the safer way to fix ownership and permissions. Ah I forgot about that. Thanks, Mark. -T

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a preferred owner and group of the MM2 directory "/usr/local/mailman?"

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Tom Browder writes: > > > The installation instructions are a little confusing, but I take away > > from them the best (almost default) choice for owner:group for the > > "/usr/local/mailman&quo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a preferred owner and group of the MM2 directory "/usr/local/mailman?"

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 09/15/2015 07:25 AM, Tom Browder wrote: >> The installation instructions are a little confusing, but I take away >> from them the best (almost default) choice for owner:group for the >> "/usr/local/mailman"

[Mailman-Users] Is there a preferred owner and group of the MM2 directory "/usr/local/mailman?"

The installation instructions are a little confusing, but I take away from them the best (almost default) choice for owner:group for the "/usr/local/mailman" ($prefix) directory is 'mailman'. Any other opinions or recommendations? Thanks. Best regards, -Tom -

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving MM2 to a new server (revisited).

On Aug 14, 2015 7:14 PM, "Mark Sapiro" wrote: > On 08/14/2015 05:38 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > > Is is necessary to restart Apache2, Postfix, and MM2 on the old server ... > No. You shouldn't need to start the web server, mail server or Mailman > on the old server. ..

[Mailman-Users] Moving MM2 to a new server (revisited).

I saw several recent msgs about moving MM2 from one server to another, but I need some more specific advice for my situation: Old server (Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, 64-bit) === apache:version 2.2.14 (2.2.14-5ubuntu8.15) postfix: version 2.7.0 (2.7.0-1ubuntu0.2) mailman: ve

Re: [Mailman-Users] 3.0 testing...

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Farokh Irani wrote: > Hi everyone. > > I posted the message below a while back, but never saw a reply. Did I miss > it? ​ ​ >> Farokh Irani >> April 9, 2015 at 19:36 >> >> If I set up a machine to test 3.0, will I be able to simply i

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] MM3 Test "" Hangs

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:13 AM, Nicolas Karageuzian wrote: > I encountered db lock using sqlite with mailman3 and tools. > Switching to postgres avoid the db locking states. > Maybe you should explore that way. I'll try that. > Hyperkitty moved to github so the lp ref is quite out of date for t

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM3 Test "" Hangs

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Tom Browder writes: ... > Actually, I do have a couple of ideas. First, you should always > report the whole error trace (if you think that's ugly in an email, ... Thanks, Steve, for the good

[Mailman-Users] MM3 Test "" Hangs

i have started investigating MM3 for my new, remote server and branched from lp:mailman, lp:postorius, and lp:hyperkitty. I started in the MM3 branch directory and followed instructions in src/mailman/docs/START.rst. I got the virtualenv ready to go and, in the local mailman branch directory, I e

[Mailman-Users] MM 3 and OSCON 2014

Two questions: 1. What is the definitive link for the MM 3 branch for wannabe users (I haven't been able to find such on the wiki yet, but I know it's there)? 2. Is MM going to have a presence at O'reilly's OSCON 2014 in July? Thanks. Best regards, -Tom -

Re: [Mailman-Users] Posts by non-subscribers not getting automatically discarded

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/15/2013 07:48 AM, Tom Browder wrote: ... >> + the post is being deferred due to improper content > The phrase "improper content" does not appear in any standard GNU > Mailmamn hold reason. Either you are not re

[Mailman-Users] Posts by non-subscribers not getting automatically discarded

I have two lists which have started being spammed by non-members and I have tried to set it for automatic discarding with no notification to the admin. However, I still get notices that my attention is required. When I look at the list I see, for each problem post: + the post is being deferred

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe/unsubscribe with CGI script?

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Krylov Ivan wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: >> >> my $response = $browser->post( >> >> "https://host.org/cgi-bin/mailman/$oper/$list";, >> email=> $enc_email, >>

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe/unsubscribe with CGI script?

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/13/2013 04:39 AM, Tom Browder wrote: ... > I assume $oper is 'subscribe'. There is apparently some incompatibility > between the way perl supplies the post data and the way Python's > cgi.FieldStorage() retri

[Mailman-Users] Subscribe/unsubscribe with CGI script?

I am running Mailman 2 (from package on Debian 6) and am trying to build my own subscription page with a Perl cgi script. I viewed the page source of a typical subscription page to find how it normally works. I get to the point of subscription and, using modules LWB::UserAgent and URI::Esacpe do

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscribe/unsubscribe with CGI script?

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > I am running Mailman 2 (from package on Debian 6) and am trying to > build my own subscription page with a Perl cgi script. ... > When using real data I get the following response from Mailman > You must supply a valid email

Re: [Mailman-Users] List doesn't appear on list overview page

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/01/2013 03:15 AM, Simon Fraser wrote: >> On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 05:08 -0500, Tom Browder wrote: >>> >>> All lists but one appear on the list overview page, but that lists >>> works fine otherwise. The o

Re: [Mailman-Users] List doesn't appear on list overview page

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Simon Fraser wrote: > On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 05:08 -0500, Tom Browder wrote: ... >> All lists but one appear on the list overview page, but that lists ... > Under 'Privacy Options' for that list, what's the option "Advertise this &

[Mailman-Users] List doesn't appear on list overview page

My third problem this week: I have about 30 lists for one domain on an Unbuntu 10 server. All lists but one appear on the list overview page, but that lists works fine otherwise. The overview pages accessed from it shows all lists but it. Any ideas? Thanks. Best regards, -Tom ---

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is changing list names to upper case first letter; how can that be changed? Are list names not case-sensitive?

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 04/30/2013 12:15 PM, Tom Browder wrote: >> >> I assume there is some way to change that behavior in a python file, but >> where? ... > If you want to change this default, edit the module Mailman/MailList.py. >

[Mailman-Users] Mailman is changing list names to upper case first letter; how can that be changed? Are list names not case-sensitive?

To answer part of my question, I guess list names are not case sensitive since they are used in an e-mail address. However, I do not like Mailman assuming I want an upper case first character in my templates and such about the list. Specifically, I used a script to create a list named 'cs-24' (an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Filtering Mail with Regexes: Possible? [SOLVED]

On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: ... >>I tried to do some editing in the FAQs but, even after I established >>an account and I logged in, I couldn't find the way to do it, so I'll ... > Due to severe issues with wiki spam,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Filtering Mail with Regexes: Possible? [SOLVED]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Tom Browder wrote: > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> Tom Browder wrote: >>>I would like to be able to filter message bodies and put a hold for >>>approval on those with html links in them to try to catch ad

Re: [Mailman-Users] Filtering Mail with Regexes: Possible?

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: >>I would like to be able to filter message bodies and put a hold for >>approval on those with html links in them to try to catch address book ... >>Is that possible? ... > Yes, but not via the sta

[Mailman-Users] Sort Member List

I notice the member list is sorted by email addresses. Is there any way to sort it on the display name? if not, will that be possible with Mailman 3? Best, -Tom -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mail

[Mailman-Users] More virtual hosts woes: mail to listname-requ...@domain.org bounces with loop back

I had success on most fronts as discussed on the thread: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2011-August/072029.html However, one of my testers tried to use the e-mail help request system and got a bounce. I just tried it and got the same thing. I e-mailed "graytags-requ...@usafa-1

Re: [Mailman-Users] Two questions ref virtual hosts and mailman[SOLVED (so far)]

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 18:09, Tom Browder wrote: > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 17:56, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> Tom Browder wrote: ... > Hm, but now I'm having problems because when I reply to a message from > list posters it has their personal e-mail address in the header like >

Re: [Mailman-Users] How is the subscriber's name used?

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 18:14, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: ... >>1.  What is the Real Name used for? ... >>2.  Can it be shown on the public subscribers list? ... > See the change to HTMLFormatter.py at > <http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Two questions ref virtual hosts andmailman[SOLVED (so far)]

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 18:23, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: >> >>Hm, but now I'm having problems because when I reply ... > Using what MUA? gmail >>to a message from >>list posters it has their personal e-mail address in the header like >&g

Re: [Mailman-Users] Two questions ref virtual hosts and mailman[SOLVED (so far)]

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 17:56, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: >> >>Aha, I think all works now.  What I did was comment out this line in >>/etc/postfix/main.cf: >> >>#relay_recipient_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman Hm, but now I'm h

[Mailman-Users] How is the subscriber's name used?

I think I have a working mailing list, and I just "mass" subscribed a dozen of my friends to take a spin. When I subscribed them I put their real names in the mass subscription list like this: blitz12345@gmailcom (Real Name) The Real Name shows on the admin's subscriber list, but not in the subs

Re: [Mailman-Users] Two questions ref virtual hosts and mailman [SOLVED (so far)]

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 14:55, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 8/5/2011 8:07 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > >> In my /etc/postfix/main.cf I have this: >>   relay_domains = virtual-1.org, virtual-2.org > > > I am not a Postfix expert, but I'll tell you what I think. If that >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Two questions ref virtual hosts and mailman

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 16:37, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: > >>Question 1: >>= >> >>Current situation: >> ... (detailed and helpful answers...) Thanks, Mark! I'm going to jump in again! By the way, I have a Pe

[Mailman-Users] Two questions ref virtual hosts and mailman

Question 1: = Current situation: I have now pretty much a working solution for this situation (postfix and mailman installed with Ubuntu packages on 64-bit 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) : 1 server 1 "real" domain: realdomain.com 2 virtual domains: virtual-1.org

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman error: Forbidden: You don't have permission to access /pipermail/grads/ on this server [SOLVED]

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 06:31, Tom Browder wrote: > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 13:08, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> Tom Browder wrote: > ... >>>However, I, as a list user, cannot get access to the archives for a >>>list.  When I try to look at the archives through the link o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman error: Forbidden: You don't have permission to access /pipermail/grads/ on this server [SOLVED]

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 13:08, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: ... >>However, I, as a list user, cannot get access to the archives for a >>list.  When I try to look at the archives through the link on the >>Welcome message I get the following: >> >>

[Mailman-Users] Error when e-mailing a list: User unknown in virtual alias table

I get this message when posting to my new lists: Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: n...@mydomain.org Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provid

[Mailman-Users] Mailman error: Forbidden: You don't have permission to access /pipermail/grads/ on this server

I'm testing a new installation of postfix and mailman on a remote server (Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, 64-bit) with two active virtual hosts. Each host is accessed via a switch to https (TLS). I installed mailman (and postfix) via my package manager. I've established four lists, two for each server, and I