On 15 May 2017, at 10:29, Matt Morgan wrote:
Has anybody experimented with (or succeeded with) any form of mailman
list
sponsorship? A nonprofit professional assocation I work for asked me
for
advice about it. If there are current examples I'd be curious to see
them.
If the nonprofit is a 50
On 14 Apr 2016, at 12:03, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
If you're working with Mailman 2, dubious. There may never be another
release of Mailman 2 (but Mark is authoritative). And Mac OS X has
been somewhat unkind to us (Apple's Mailman has been a long-term
source of support requests to which we
On Jun 2, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Janice Boothe wrote:
> Maybe because I am not fully aware of il8n but I fail to see how that is an
> issue. I know fo other software that uses end user selectable language sets
> and is highly customizable. Also the fact that a lot of the rest of MM uses
> templa
On 1/16/12 12:09 PM, "Mark Sapiro" wrote:
> You can fix this by removing the email directory from
> /usr/lib/mailman/pythonlib so that Mailman will use the Python 2.6
> email package instead of Mailman's which is not compatible, but this
> won't fix all the Mailman 2.1.9/Python 2.6.x incompatibil
Short version:
Are there any gotchas in upgrading from 2.1.9 to 2.1.14-1 that I need to
look out for? I am, as usual in these cases, looking for the most expedient
way to fix a problem I've brought on myself.
Some more details...
We run the mailman processes on our mail server, a 64-bit Red Hat
aemonize, in order to work properly with Apple's launchd.
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--On January 9, 2010 11:46:05 AM +1100 John Fitzsimons
wrote:
From looking at the FAQ it appears that one can only remove mailing
list archives if one has shell access. Is that correct ?
If it is then are there any plans for us CPanel users to be able to
remove archives in a future Mailman re
--On December 17, 2009 4:12:29 PM -0500 Barry Warsaw wrote:
Could someone submit a bug on this here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman
I think it would be useful to support a "no-daemonize" option to the
'bin/mailman start' command in Mailman 3.
To which I reply:
Don
hings differently. But a quick side-by-side compare of their
mailmanctl and the stock one should get you pointed in the right direction.
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ers@python.org/msg54111.html>
<http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg54113.html>
where I posted info about, and a link to my launchd scripts to replace the
distributed cron actions (which, on Mac OS X systems, lead to mysterious
error messages in syslog.
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An
o use
launchd instead. You'll see one of those messages for *everything* that
cron runs -- you're just seeing the common ones because they run so often.
I've written a bunch of launchd.plist files for all the various Mailman
cron jobs;
ou are under the impression that
Microsoft cares about how their software interacts with non-Microsoft
products. They don't. You should just be using all Microsoft products,
then everything would be good and right.
Drink the Kool-Aid, Doug.
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27;s worth, it didn't arrive line-wrapped at my end. The wider I
made my mail window, the longer the lines got. Well, until I got it about
60% of my 2560-pixel wide screen, and then each of the four paragraphs in
your text was on one line, so further widening made no more diff
d be From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please help me in identgying my mistake in configuring mailman or mailing
lists settings.
To which I reply:
You haven't mis-configured the list; this is an Outlook problem. See:
<http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/From+field+displayed+by+Microsoft+Ou
's see. You posted your original message at 5:37pm PST on the
Friday before a holiday weekend, and at 6:10am the following morning, you
complain that no one as helped you yet?
Yeah, that makes sense. Don't want much for free, do you?
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My wife is on a mailing list that uses
Constant Contact, and we recently had all sorts of problems getting that
mail through UM's relatively aggressive "bad mailer" filters. The mail
wasn't getting marked as spam, but the behavior of Consta
ardlinks instead of copies of cross-posts can't be
> too difficult...
To which I reply:
I love comments like this. If it "can't be too difficult...", I suggest
you put on your Python programming hat, and get coding.
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--On January 16, 2008 11:21:41 AM -0700 LuKreme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There really should be.
To which I reply:
It's open source. Start coding and submit a patch.
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;
'sort' no longer supports the form 'sort +POS1 -POS2', instead needint the
form 'sort -k POS1,POS2'. Of course, In that form POS1 and POS2 are
1-based rather than 0-based. So the 'sort' part of mmdsr.sh line above
becomes, instead,
$SORT -n -k 2
Are those unnecessary single quotes inside the "<...>" confusing Mailman?
Or am I missing something really obvious?
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ut
sendmail is configured to look at /etc/mail/aliases. (The alias count is
another hint.)
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to me,
but I figured it was better to ask, so I know if I have to spend more time
trying to figure out how to make sendmail only refuse connections on the
non-localhost interface. Although if anyone knows the magic knob to do
that, I would appreciate a hint.)
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tomatically recognize new lists,
>in which case the MTA variable should be set to None.
To which I reply:
Given the number of times that this comes up as a point of confusion, maybe
that comment should read:
...in which case the MTA variable should be set to None (not &#x
--On May 29, 2007 10:25:22 AM -0400 Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anybody else use Postfix 2.4?
To which I reply:
For what it's worth, my (extremely small, low-traffic) home Mailman install
(2.1.9) uses Postfix 2.4.1 with no problems.
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modified.
To which I reply:
If you set privacy options->subscribe_policy to either "require approval"
or "confirm and approve", then it doesn't matter if other subscription
options are available -- unless you approve subscription requests
e Apache config:
-- cut here --
## Set up mod_proxy_ajp for tomcat integration
ProxyRequests Off
Order deny,allow
Allow from all
ProxyPass ajp://localhost:8009/xxx
-- cut here --
You can have multiple blocks, but for your purposes, it
might be sufficient to just pass off
wo questions:
1) What's it used for?
2) Can I safely delete this copy, assuming that it'll get re-created
as necessary?
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as badly managed as others, but they all
> had major problems.
To which I reply:
That's to bad. In the nearly thirty years that I've been doing this sort
of stuff, I've come across a few. I work in (and help manage) one now.
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> shouldn't be able to see, and you risk legitimate access being
> inappropriately denied.
>
> This is not a given in NFS server environments.
To which I reply:
It's a given in well-managed NFS environments.
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'm in the
mailman group.
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line 73, in __sort
self.sorted.sort()
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc0 in position 0:
ordinal not in range(128)
Mar 21 10:35:47 2007 (6861) SHUNTING:
1174487402.1760509+9438ae178cf24ca45b73094e18778ba97c71df17
>From this, I'm guessing that something is wrong with a me
'iso-8859-1')
>
> in mm_cfg.py and then do
>
> bin/mailmanctl restart
>
> followed by
>
> bin/unshunt
Is there any downside to making this change? I notice that iso-8859-1 is
the standard charset for the majority of the languages listed in Defaul
I looked just now, there were 150 pairs of .db and .msg
files, and all but one had been flagged as SPAM, so I used bin/inject with
the one .msg file, and sh*t-canned the rest of the files.
Thanks for the confirmation that that was what I needed to do.
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is
what I really want to do to use bin/inject, passing it the individual .msg
file?
Thanks in advance for any hints...
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being particular stupid about this, but the
day is fast approaching when we cut over to the new web server hardware,
and I'd rather think about this ahead of time than sit there that day,
saying, "Well, sh*t, that's not good..."
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ere our mail server is running Solaris on SPARC and our web server is
running Linux on Intel, then assuming that the two machines share
$MAILMAN_HOME, I just have to ensure that the wrapper is a SPARC
executable, while the cgi-bin files are Intel executables.
Or have I missed something? An
--On March 4, 2007 11:08:30 AM -0800 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Burling wrote:
> > Is there a way I can un-inhibit "printing of traceback and other system
> > info"?
>
>
>
> Yes. Edit the scripts/driver file and change
>
>
that on
the web server in place of the current directory. That also allowed me to
drop back and punt when I hit the error.
bin/check_perms only complained about some directories and files that the
NAS creates, so I don't think it's a permission problem.
All hints gratefully accep
re-add it. This seems to happen to a number of lists
To which I reply:
I can't remember for sure when this patch made it into the mainline code,
but it sure sounds like what you're seeing:
<http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1020102&
.org>, build it, and use
that to send your mail out.
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et safe values. You
disagree. You've made that abundantly clear. Fine. We believe that you
disagree.
But based on my (rather more than I care to contemplate) years in this
business, I think you're wrong.
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t was sent
both to a list I'm on and cc'd to me. Looking through the MTA's logs, I
see the message going out to each of the recipients except me.
If this is really the way it works, that's cool...
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e.
But I suspect that your ultimate problem is one that was suggested by
someone else (Mark?) -- you've got a bad value set for DEFAULT_URL_HOST.
Fixing that in mm_cfg.py will probably help.
YMMV; I'm merely a dabbler in the mailman configuration business.
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--On June 15, 2005 6:20:00 PM +0100 Andy Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I differ from your view.
I think you've made your position clear. John's made his position clear.
How about if the two of you take the rest of this discussion offline?
en something else changed. Maybe
that'll give you some clues as to what you have to fix. Also see the
mailman FAQ at:
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py>
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r
message:
Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "mail"
What's so hard about re-running configure?
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e in there? And that
that screwed things up?
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o indicate block structure? It seems absolutely
guaranteed to cause problems such as this.
(Feel free to respond off-list. I'm sincerely curious about this -- ever
since I started looking at Python, this has bugged me.)
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ken, I just applied the patch to fix this, which Mark
Sapiro kindly pointed me to:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1020102&group_id=103&atid=300103
As always, thanks to the group for the great support!
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quot; button
which deletes the rule from the list. Could this be the problem?
To which I reply:
No, I just mis-spoke. Discard is, indeed, the desired action.
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hanges,
they appear to be correctly saved, but if we then return to that page some
time later, the rule has mysteriously disappeared.
Any idea why this would be happening?
Mailman 2.1.4, running on Solaris, for what it's worth.
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stops mailman processes from running with the correct permissions and can
interrupt lists' operation.
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to "discard", to see whether
there's some confusion going on between the "hold for moderation" and the
"hold because it matched a SPAM filter".
Any advice gratefully accepted...
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ad the documentation.
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--On Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:55 PM -0400 Brendan Chard
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What are quick one or two word descriptors that folks are using to refer
to their mailman lists?
To which I reply:
"Mailing List".
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here's just no way
to turn off this 'feature' if you don't use it. (except by going backwards
to an older version of Mailman, or by using another MLM).
To which I reply:
Make that "There's just no way to turn off this 'feature' that's acceptable
to me
y:
What does line 45 of your Defaults.py look like?
Seems like the error message is giving you a clue...
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Ack! My apologies for the double posting about this -- I read too
hurriedly a rejection notice that claimed I wasn't allowed to post to the
list, and didn't notice that it was from some other machine.
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seems wrong to me (and to our director :-). But maybe it's legal, and
it's the client's fault for not properly re-assembling the header?
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seems wrong to me (and to our director :-). But maybe it's legal, and
it's the client's fault for not properly re-assembling the header?
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cluded pipermail there properly
(by my definition of properly, at least :-) sets the attachment aside,
leaving a link in the archive.
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low
step 1 to find the original application icon. Then:
2. Control-click on the Eudora icon and select "Get Info".
3. In the "Eudora Info" window that opens, "turn down" the
disclosure triangle next to "Plug-ins:"
4. Check the box next
rversions. If you
must use Outhouse, then you probably can't use Mailman. End of story.
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sses...
File your report there.
To which I reply:
Why file a bug report on Mailman, when the bug is in Outhouse?
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ot;Dude, try some software that
you pay for, then maybe you can expect to get 'free' support"?
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sses?
To which I reply:
Yes. Read the documentation.
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An
p://www.postfix.org>
You can do this, but it's not entirely trivial. If you aren't familiar
with building and installing software on Unix, you've got a learning hump
to get over. You'll need an administrative id to do the installations, too.
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, the membership list show the names. Is it just that you want to
see more at once, or what am I missing?
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reply:
I can't remember for sure if this is required, but did you restart Postfix
after adding the aliases?
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