[Mailman-Users] Re: GNU Mailman condemns reinstatement of RMS

On 4/13/21 7:01 PM, Jon Ribbens via Mailman-Users wrote: > On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 10:26:05PM -0700, Abhilash Raj wrote: >> The GNU Mailman Steering Committee condemns the reinstatement of >> Richard M. Stallman (RMS) to the Board of the Free Software Foundation >> (FSF), and has taken the followin

[Mailman-Users] Re: GNU Mailman condemns reinstatement of RMS

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 10:26:05PM -0700, Abhilash Raj wrote: > To the Mailman community, > > The GNU Mailman Steering Committee condemns the reinstatement of > Richard M. Stallman (RMS) to the Board of the Free Software Foundation > (FSF), and has taken the following actions: > Because you are

[Mailman-Users] Re: GNU Mailman condemns reinstatement of RMS

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 10:26:05PM -0700, Abhilash Raj wrote: > To the Mailman community, > > And unfortunately, he has become both a symbol > and a source of the toxicity in tech communities. The FSF Board did > the right thing by accepting RMS's resignation. They did the wrong > thing by reins

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexpected password reminder from this list

On 08/06/2018 02:08 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote: > > What's your thoughts on adding reCAPTCHA to the 2nd half of the > listinfo page in order to mitigate some of that? I don't want google to know about my users and I don't want people to unblock google in order to get passwords --

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

On 01/05/2018 03:32 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 01/05/2018 02:13 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > >> That is not a true statement. When you are looking for a MAIL host, it >> is logical to ask for it with an MX record. > Fine. Dig for an MX record for your defined SMTPHost and se

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

On 01/05/2018 02:56 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > I think you are confused: I am not talking about what you get back, I am > talking about what you ask *for*. >I think you are confused: I am not talking about what you get back, I > am > talking about what you ask *for*. That is just not logical.

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

On 01/05/2018 01:41 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 01/05/2018 11:49 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > >> SMTPHost seems to do a non-mx record lookup for the value ... which is a >> little strange. > When you look up a *host*, you look for A/PTR or CNAME. No, all dns look ups are f

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

On 01/05/2018 12:17 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > But I don't see why it does this. It doesn't seem to be dns confusion > because that works correctly for the mx records. It seems to be > confusion restricted to mailman OK - I found the problem SMTPHost should be documented to n

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

On 01/05/2018 09:59 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > I have a custom archive system that I have used for decades and I lost > the ability to send mail through the mailing list to its user account. > > Jan 05 01:13:13 2018 (3042) delivery to arch...@xxx.com failed the code > 550: 5.1.1 : Re

[Mailman-Users] local recipient table

I have a custom archive system that I have used for decades and I lost the ability to send mail through the mailing list to its user account. Jan 05 01:13:13 2018 (3042) delivery to arch...@xxx.com failed the code 550: 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table I am

Re: [Mailman-Users] changing url for administration

On 11/14/2017 12:13 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/13/2017 08:55 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> On 11/13/2017 11:27 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> On 11/13/2017 08:02 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >>>> I need to change the url for accepting messages that are deferred within >

Re: [Mailman-Users] changing url for administration

On 11/13/2017 11:27 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/13/2017 08:02 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> I need to change the url for accepting messages that are deferred within >> and need to be handled by the lists admin page. The submit button is >> pointed to a dead URL and I

[Mailman-Users] changing url for administration

I need to change the url for accepting messages that are deferred within and need to be handled by the lists admin page. The submit button is pointed to a dead URL and I need to change it to list.myurl.com Ruben -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlant

Re: [Mailman-Users] A rant on parsing RFCs

On 10/23/2017 12:57 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users writes: > > > RFC 6377 - DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) and Mailing Lists, > > disagrees with you. (RFC 6377 is also currently known as BCP 167.) > > tl;dr version: RFC 5598 (non-normative but authoritative

[Mailman-Users] openrc init.d script

I wrote an init.d script for mailman for openrc and I have bug I can't track down in mailmanctl when I run the script it feeds me this: www3 ~]# /etc/init.d/mailman start Go find the config Yo - go find /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py * Starting mailman ... PIDFILE /var/lib/mailman/data/mas

[Mailman-Users] 2.1 installation instructions

I am porting my mailman config to a new system using openrc and, if it is possible, I would like to be pointed to installation and configuration instructions for mailman 2.1.24 and postfix thank you -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches myth

[Mailman-Users] 2.1 installation instructions

I am porting my mailman config to a new system using openrc and, if it is possible, I would like to be pointed to installation and configuration instructions for mailman 2.1.24 and postfix thank you -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches myth

[Mailman-Users] Django

I'm not sure why you decided to add Django as a dependency of Mailman but it is a losey idea to add an additional entire operational development platform in order to just get a mailing list up and running. It is bad enough that the mailman python modules are constantly pinning the CPUs of my syste

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

On 05/31/2017 10:32 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > ... >> But I'm not getting bounce processing that I expect. I lot of hard >> bounces are not being caught. I set bounce level to 3 >> >> These are hard bounces: > ... > > > Is bounce processing not working or do you just think it's not working > beca

[Mailman-Users] Bounce processing

I changed my aliases to something like this # STANZA START: hangout # CREATED: Sat Apr 15 12:09:33 2017 hangout: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post hangout" hangout-admin: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin hangout" hangout-bounces: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounce

[Mailman-Users] bounce alias and bonce processing

Hello I changed the owner alias for my mailing list and now I think the bounces are not processing like they should. Is that possible? Ruben -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] owner-list change

On 04/12/2017 10:54 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > If you are also looking at virtual mappings, you need to tweak them too. where are those? -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 h

Re: [Mailman-Users] owner-list change

On 04/12/2017 10:54 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 4/12/17 6:09 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> >> I want to change the alias from owner to not_owner or anything else. >> >> I changed the alias file and expect some kind of breakage. >> >> I can use a recommendatio

[Mailman-Users] owner-list change

I want to change the alias from owner to not_owner or anything else. I changed the alias file and expect some kind of breakage. I can use a recommendation -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/l

[Mailman-Users] list of subscribers

where is the list of subscribers maintained on the file system. -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Saf

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/29/2016 10:44 AM, Keith Seyffarth wrote: > how many honeypots are out there flagging this sender as a bad > sender and harming the listserv, or possibly the whole domain or IP as > being a problem sender? there are no honey pots. Most of the email addresses have been on the lists for a de

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/29/2016 04:19 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > From looking at your Postfix logs, it looks as though you have a major > > DNS problem. I suggest that you install bind and set up a caching DNS > > server on the same box that is running Mailman. > > Good idea, but I suspect that wouldn't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/29/2016 03:08 AM, Hank van Cleef wrote: > a. What is your computer hardware? fit/pc2 Intel Atom with a gig of ram and 2 gigs of swap on a tetrabyte - /proc/cpuinfo - processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family: 6 model : 28 model name: Intel(R)

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/29/2016 02:19 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/28/2016 10:51 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> On 02/29/2016 01:34 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> I think we can fix your issue fairly simply. >>> >>> Please, as I asked in my reply at >>> <https://mail.python.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/29/2016 02:12 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > Oh, and -nothing- involved in email handling is "real time", which has a > fairly specific meaning in computing. *All* email is queued at least a > couple of times along the way and delivered as those systems get around > to it. Use whatever terminolog

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/29/2016 01:50 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/28/2016 10:42 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> >> Can it be set up like that and if so, please tell me how. > > > I'm trying to! > > Please see my posts archived at > <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/29/2016 01:42 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > dig gnutelephony.org that does hang. These are OLD mailing lists and it is hard to be responsible for 20 years of DNS errors by organizations I have no control over. -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, l

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/29/2016 01:34 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I think we can fix your issue fairly simply. > > Please, as I asked in my reply at > , > post the output from 'postconf -n' and the contents of mm_cfg.py. Sorry, I got mixed up

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 10:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > IIRC, that means that DNS > lookup failed with no result, not that the relevant nameserver (the > .org rootserver in this case) said there was no such domain. That > probably means multiple timeouts on DNS lookups, each of which might > take 30

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 10:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > By the way, when did you switch to Mailman? Did you start > experiencing this problem immediately when you did? about 6 months ago and the problem was concurrent absolutely with the initiation of mailman. There seems to be no settings I can s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 10:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > I don't see how any mailing list > manager could deal efficiently with such a high rate of failure, OK - I understand. Another mailing list manager was doing it before perl4 really died. I guess the reality of this is beginning to sink in.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 05:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > bin/config_list -o - listname | grep -v '^#' real_name = 'hangout' owner = ['m...@here.com'] moderator = [] description = 'NYLXS Discussions List' info = '' subject_prefix = '[Hangout-NYLXS] ' anonymous_list = False first_strip_reply_to = False

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 05:46 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/28/2016 02:26 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> On 02/28/2016 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> >>> If there are more than one or two files in the out/ queue, and if the >>> smtp log has successive entries of the form

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/28/2016 07:29 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> >> No, I mean I send messages and they don't show up for a half hour even >> in the postfix logs > > > Assuming Mailman 2.1.x, the usual cause of this is a backlogge

Re: [Mailman-Users] Config dump? - WAS Re: speed up mailman

www:~ # /usr/lib/mailman/bin/version Using Mailman version: 2.1.17 www:~ # postconf -d | grep mail_version mail_version = 2.11.3 milter_macro_v = $mail_name $mail_version -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 03:47 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > How do I speed up mailman so that it works instantaneously and stops > > storing messages. > > If you mean "Mailman is administratively holding messages until > released by a moderator," you need to tell us more about your current > configur

Re: [Mailman-Users] date

On 02/28/2016 04:01 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > Sun Feb 28 04:01:23 EST 2016 > [ruben@localhost ~]$ yeah - postfix works are about instantanious as it can get... so where is mailman tripping up? -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, r

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

On 02/28/2016 03:47 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > If there's a performance > problem, almost surely either your ISP is throttling you, or your MTA > is misconfigured. Again, we need to know more about how Mailman is > installed, what you're trying to do, and what the other software > involved i

Re: [Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

ut any delay. So I'm at a loss to understand it. > Cheers! > > Sent from my LG G4 > Kindly excuse brevity and typos > On 28 Feb 2016 07:58, "Ruben Safir" wrote: > >> Hello >> >> How do I speed up mailman so that it works instantaneously and stop

[Mailman-Users] speed up mailman

Hello How do I speed up mailman so that it works instantaneously and stops storing messages. Ruben -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT

Re: [Mailman-Users] 64 bit encoding

On 11/09/2015 08:30 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > On November 9, 2015 8:15:49 PM EST, Ruben wrote: > >> 2015-11-08T08:56:54.786350-05:00 www postfix/smtp[21541]: 0AF2B161158: >> to=, relay=mx1.hotmail.com[134.170.2.199]:25, >> delay=2.8, >> delays=1.7/0.6/0.16/0.27, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250

Re: [Mailman-Users] 64 bit encoding

On 11/05/2015 03:50 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > And you've basically arranged that by making the archive public as far > as mailman is concerned and telling apache > > Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/archives/public/ > > so at least the default public archive URLs point somewh

Re: [Mailman-Users] 64 bit encoding

On 11/05/2015 01:18 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/05/2015 09:55 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > >> www:/etc/postfix # grep mailman ./* >> ./main.cf:#alias_maps = "hash:/etc/aliases, >> hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases" >> ./main.cf:alias_maps = hash:/etc/ali

Re: [Mailman-Users] 64 bit encoding

On 11/05/2015 01:05 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/05/2015 09:48 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > >>>> /usr/local/apache/conf/mailman/Mailman/Message.py >>>> /usr/local/apache/conf/mailman/Mailman/Message.pyc >>> >> >> ohh. >> >> Maybe I

Re: [Mailman-Users] 64 bit encoding

On 11/05/2015 12:24 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/05/2015 08:41 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> >> Which file am I patching? Is this a normal setup? I pulled it from >> opensuse. >> >> >> ruben@www:~> locate Mailman/Message.py >> /usr/lib/mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] 64 bit encoding

On 11/05/2015 12:31 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/05/2015 08:41 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> >> Which file am I patching? Is this a normal setup? I pulled it from >> opensuse. >> >> >> ruben@www:~> locate Mailman/Message.py >> /usr/lib/mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] 64 bit encoding

On 11/04/2015 12:10 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > You can change the > encoding for UTF-8 message bodies with the following patch to > Mailman/Message.py, but if your messages are not predominate Oh thank you! Because I was reading that it is triggered by header msg_header or msg_footer, but nobody

[Mailman-Users] 64 bit encoding

I'm converting my mailing lists from majordomo to mailman using postfix. A lot of little issues have cropped up but the biggest problem I have currently is that it seems that mailman is converting files to 64 bit which is screwing up my home cooked archives but good. How you I stop it from doing