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message with only "Administrative" changes, should not change the
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appening. Either your login cookie is being removed or
for some reason, not being saved.
Normally, I would suspect the issues in the FAQ at
<https://wiki.list.org/x/4030614>, but those normally affect all changes
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ll use the account. The problem is
that the spammer may well understand + hacking, and get back to the root
address, so it doesn't really help.
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the error is being generated.
It might be possible to configure your MTA to be more forgiving, but it
really looks like the sender is bad.
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y a DMARC issue. You need to enable the DMARC mitigations. AOL,
Yahoo and the like will not accept messages with a From that says AOL or
YAHOO that passes through your list unless it doesn't modify the message
body or subject in any way.
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; multiple copies in that case?
>
> Question 3: What effect do Topics have on subscribers receiving the
> Digest? Are they effectively subscribed to all Topics?
>
> I see great potential for the use of Topics in our group, but I don't
> know where to find the answer
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On 9/10/20 3:13 PM, Dennis Putnam wrote:
> On 9/10/2020 2:56 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 9/10/20 2:37 PM, Dennis Putnam wrote:
>>> On 9/10/2020 2:01 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 9/10/20 12:47 PM, Dennis Putnam wrote:
>>>>> I am getting email
On 9/10/20 2:37 PM, Dennis Putnam wrote:
> On 9/10/2020 2:01 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 9/10/20 12:47 PM, Dennis Putnam wrote:
>>> I am getting email from entities with From: no-reply headers. Is there a
>>> way to filter those and just dump them in the bit bucket
ivacy / Spam
Filters with result discard. Might want to test with Hold to see if you
get false positives with your regex first.
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for spam.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Johannes
>
Marc can confirm, but I do believe that a failed DNS Query is treated as
if the policy was reject, on the theory that it is better to mitigate in
error than to not mitigate in error.
Having a policy of discard would make that assumption not so go
t on
individual moderation.
>
> Thanks! /bernie\
> Bernie Cosell
> ber...@fantasyfarm.com
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One thing to note is that you seem to have two different filters at work
here, one being non-member post, which you want to Discard, and messages
with 'bad' words in the subject, which you define to Hold. A message
which matches both filters will be acted by the first filter that the
message hi
servers in the same server farm trying to resend
>> messages.
> Some greylisting solutions also allow you to whitelist a domain or
> subdomain, but this can result in spammers spoofing that domain getting
> through...
>
>
which no explicit
action is defined.
(Details for generic_nonmember_action)
To discard so you don't get the messages (don't set it to reject or you
will be backscattering). It does say that you won't see messages that
should go to the list but the send used the wrong account.
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> /Bernie\
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> Bernie Cosell
>ber...@fantasyfarm.com
> -- Too many people; too few sheep --
>
Its possible that your hosting service has disabled the option to
require approval to unsubscribe
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On 7/17/19 10:36 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 7/17/19 5:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>
>> Here is a sample of one semi-regular bounce I get from a list I manage
>> (I haved X'ed out the personal information included in the bounce). I
>> suspect that one issue is that th
your message. It was refused by the recipient's junk mail controls.
To reach XXX, please telephone +1 888 XXX.
--- Below this line is a copy of the message.
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> On Apr 18, 2019, at 6:41 PM, Dennis Carr
> wrote:
>
> Hey, guys.
> ...
> So to this end, my thought is to route that mail over to a separate
> -admins list instead of 'mailman list admins'. The expected side
> effect is that this will wind up in the -admins list "not-subscribed"
> trap. I
be at the start of the header line, so doesn't
match things headers like X-Subject
The .* says that you can have any assortment of characters between the
Subject: header and the word in question
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On 2/2/19 1:37 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> On 2/1/19 6:49 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> Yes, Mailman has a feature call topics, but that is very different
>> then what the OP is asking for.
>
> Agreed. (I thought I covered that in my last email. Maybe I wasn
helped greatly if posters add the appropriate
key words to subjects to allow them to be categorized). I suppose one
option that might satisfy the OP would be the ability for the subscriber
to add a custom regex as a filter. That way they could get it to filter
on the replies they are looking for, a
l
technologies may add a notification piece to let you know there is
information (but those notifications won't thread in your mail reader to
recreate the conversations) and the Push technologies have archives that
you can go to.
It's a bit like asking
hings like adding
additional re: prefixes
I will ask you how much you are willing to talk to a person who
basically interrupts, says they aren't really interested in the general
conversation, so isn't really listening, but if you go out of your way
to answer in a special way they will hear you
On 1/19/19 5:24 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon wrote:
> On 19 Jan 2019 at 17:08, Richard Damon wrote:
>
>> Set the action on Sender Filters for messages from non-members to
>> discard, instead of hold. I had to do that a long time ago (Don´t
>> reject or you will be generating back-
white
list you.
There might be some other issue happening that the notice might help you
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Set the action on Sender Filters for messages from non-members to discard,
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> On Jan 19, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon
> wrote:
>
> One of my forums has suddenly been inundated with po
icy of reject (or maybe even
quarantine) as they are allowing there users to use RFC compliant
re-mailing systems (aka mailing lists) that don't naturally meet the
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> the roster?
>
Mailman can send you a notification for every subscription /
unsubscription event on the list. Just have your email program filter
those into folders and sort them by date and you can get those nu
omain. Not all domains managed by Yahoo have a DMARC
setting of reject, I imagine only those that have had the data leak that
prompted the issue in the first place.
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PF, is that this cause problems if
anyone sets up a forward for list messages to another domain, as these
now will get rejected by any domain that checks SPF.
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e body. My list is plain text
only, so I set a size filter to catch messages which quote the whole
digest. It also catches people who attach things anyway, post in html
(sometimes) or don't trim excessive quotations (sometimes). I set the
filters to
doesn't support that sort of option, and changing
message IDs as this option describes actually can cause a lot of
'damage' to the mail system.
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7;re going to have to take all these
> people off digest, and some won't like it.
>
> I don't know if getting these people to whitelist us would let these
> emails through, even if it was possible to steer all of them through
> the process.
>
> On 8 August 2018 at 11:48,
issues with a number of the larger email providers
with digests on the list I run. I suspect that the format of the digest
just looks strange to the scoring algorithms, and the embedded message
Ids will look like there are a lot of email addresses in the m
On 7/31/18 9:32 PM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
> On 31 Jul 2018 at 21:25, Richard Damon wrote:
>
>> On 7/31/18 9:15 PM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
>>> Here's the request I just sent:
>>>
>>> 'setmemberopts-btn' => 'Submit Yo
ell
>ber...@fantasyfarm.com
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>
With Mailman2, submitting a non-subscribed email address to the
unsubscribe link doesn't give an error message. If you read the text
sent back, it says something like IF you were subscribed, and email wi
#x27;t acceptable so it could be rejected then, but
since it generally can't, you need to discard spam, not reject it.
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On 7/27/18 7:28 PM, Jordan Brown wrote:
> On 7/27/2018 4:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> Yes, there are existing formats that at least mostly represent this
>> in the message itself, but not for display. Especially that currently
>> the wrapping message would say it is from the
On 7/27/18 6:41 PM, Jordan Brown wrote:
> On 7/25/2018 5:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> Yes, one set of solutions would involve defining standards of how to
>> compose composite messages, with standards on how to display them. A
>> major part of the current issue is that for
sue is probably that the links still point to the http version,
which is redirecting to the https and losing the form data. You need to
change the config variable that gives the base page for the admin pages
to point to the https version. (Someone more familiar with the detail
to be clear within
the standard, and perhaps the standard could even be worked that
existing non-conforming implementations are so bad that it is clear that
the user needs a new MUA.
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> On Jul 24, 2018, at 9:43 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
> wrote:
>
>> On 07/24/2018 06:59 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> You CAN’T strip DMARC.
>
> I can most certainly strip any DKIM related headers from messages that are
> coming into my server on their wa
>> On Jul 24, 2018, at 3:20 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 07/22/2018 04:25 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> What actions do you think mailing lists are doing improperly?
>
> I personally believe that mailing lists are their own end
> On Jul 22, 2018, at 5:11 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
> wrote:
>
>> On 07/22/2018 02:03 PM, John Levine wrote:
>> No, it was specified in full knowledge that it would break pretty much every
>> mailing list on the planet if used on domains with human users, instead of
>> its intended
can I prevent it.
>
> Dave
The lists language is set to use a National Code page, and Outlook
formatted the message to use a 'Smart Quote' that isn't part of that
Code Page.
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all members in all groups in one command...
>
> bin/find_member .
>
> The '.' is a pattern that matches any address.
>
>
>> .remove selected user from all lists in my server.
>
> bin/remove_members --fromall
>
of course).
>>
>> Try changing that to - for example - "" or
>> "" and look how Outlook treats it then.
>>
>> Christian
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andle the
technical challenges of dealing with the spam issues.
For a mailing list, because reply-all is more often used, it make
differentiated munged From's (if needed), you likely want to plus-hack
the From line (listname+sender@listdomain), though that might also
create duplicate post
On 3/31/18 6:33 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
On Sat, 2018-03-31 at 17:57 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:
On 3/31/18 3:35 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
On Sat, 2018-03-31 at 14:50 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:
To me the issue sounds like why is fmp.com forwarding spam?
If this is a case of fmp.com
On 3/31/18 3:35 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
On Sat, 2018-03-31 at 14:50 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:
To me the issue sounds like why is fmp.com forwarding spam?
If this is a case of fmp.com offering forwarding mailboxes to users, who
might be using gmail as a final destination, then yes, fmp
be absolutely unique, mostly unique is likely good
enough), something like replace the at with _at_ and add a tail wart
like _dm...@fmp.com (so you can have other addresses an not worry about
possible overlaps with those) and use that as the from address. Then a
reply will only whitelist that specific or
o be allowed on the list).
You can also put the person on the Accept list, which will remove the
need for a moderator to Approve each of their messages and the list will
just automatically Accept it (unless it falls under some filter that
holds/rejects/discards it).
-
ext
sections, you might be able to create a semi-text only list, and in such
a case, there may be ways to embed an image inline that it gets lost, as
well as including the image as its own section so it gets through.
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On 1/5/18 11:19 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 01/05/2018 08:09 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
Sounds like its off to the host provider and see if they did something
recently.
I suspect some problem with the dnspython package. If you can run Python
in a shell, you can try
import dns.resolver
If that
On 1/5/18 10:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 01/05/2018 07:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
I use Mailman versioon 2.1.25 on a shared host, and in the past couple
of days, something seems to have changed, as posts from AOL users are no
longer getting their from address munged like they were a week ago
.
Has something changed with their settings, and is their anything I can
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On 9/3/17 5:19 PM, Larry Kuenning wrote:
On 9/3/2017 3:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
I believe it is intentional that you do not get notified for post held
for 'emergency moderation'. My understanding of the purpose of
'emergency moderation' is for a short term emergenc
e a short
term patch till you can figure out a better method, then you will turn
off the emergency moderation. In this case you will likely get flooded
with moderation messages for posts held for the emergency moderation,
and you are likely going to be able to check the web interface
frequent
o receive that mail.
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the question is to what level does Python email
libraries support these extensions and how easy is it to figure out how
the local email system will handle messages that attempt to use them.
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mail (or someone who
checks SPF records) will start to bounce.
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like it is set to "Require Approval" or "Confirm and Approve"
instead of "Confirm"
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Anonymous List option on the General Options
page. It makes all messages be From: the list instead of the original
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I have the option admin_immed_notify turned on, and with that an email is sent
immediately to the moderator email address that includes as an attachment a
complete copy of the message as sent.I find this very useful to check the
message for anything funny. My mailing list is 'Plain Text Only' an
rations, based on the list
name and and added suffix, one of which is -request, which allows you to
manipulate your email subscription via email (including the initial
subscription).
How did you subscribe to this list?
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s, and you
will get into this sort of trouble.
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arely enough (It would be like
going to the doctor and saying 'I'm sick, fix me' and not letting them
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mail path, then they are going to need to pay
their MSP for the additional IP addresses to make that happen.
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Ma
The only thing I can think of is to require approval of all subscriptions (and
maybe confirmation) and then build a regexp to auto approve all addresses
without a + in them. I don't know how this will interact with the ban list (if
you need that).
> On Sep 15, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Gibbs, David
such option that I have overseen?
Set the members moderated and set member_moderation_action to Discard.
I guess if I would do so, this could mean that I myself won't be able to
send postings to the list, too, right?
---Ulf Dunkel
You would be able to post if you make yourself not moder
16.
---Ulf Dunkel
Just setup a filter ( Privacy > SPAM Filters ) to detect messages From:
them and set the disposition to discard.
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m the browser so it unloads it, causing the cookies to
disappear. Perhaps using a "long-lived" login cookie, but that has other
security issues, and I am not positive that iOS browsers keep those
either (and many more people have these
when I reply to a message from
the list I am given 3 options:
Reply
Reply All
Reply to List
The Reply to List option is made available by the List-Post header I
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nt, so it won't suppress adding it again.
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explicit_destination)
If you want to generally have this behavior, but only allow messages
destined to certain addresses be BCCed to the list, then you can add
those addresses to the second item on that page (acceptable_aliases)
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Hi All,
Is there a way to report on unsubscribes over time?
Thanks,
Dave
You could archive the unsubscribe notifications sent to the owner
(enable them if needed) and then process them.
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On 2/14/15 5:51 AM, adam morris wrote:
Hi all,
I'm new to mailman.
I run 4 fairly small lists.
I found somewhere but can't remember where the ability to send a
message to people if they send a message to a list and they are not
subscribed.
I could put a message somewhere that they will see to
On 2/13/15 11:41 AM, Tapia, Rene wrote:
Hello,
A while back I replaced our older Mailman Server with a SLES 11 SP3 Server. The
Mailman Version is 2.1.14. Everything is running fine for the most past.
The only issue that I have is that when certain large email lists send emails
containing atta
ybe listname-bounces?)
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Mailman tries (and I think succeeds) at not letting an outsider know who
is subscribed to a list (unless the list publishes its member list, then
that list will reveal those who don't hide their email address.)
If you want to help someone unsubscribe without them needing to use the
confirmatio
Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe:
https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/richard%40damon-family.org
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iolate
the 200 per hour limit every time someone posts or responds ... we have
over 900 active members.
Russell Woodford
Geelong
Australia
Have you tried changing your "chunck-size" to be 1000 (more than the
number of members?)
It is on the "General Options
t. I would
say that Volumes are typically done on an Annual basis, but I could
imagine using Monthly for a very active list.
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n a "chunk" full of results, will get
broken into pages based on the first letter (and if there are more than
a chunk worth that begin with that letter, broken into chunk sized pieces).
If you change the chunk size to be larger than the number of members on
the list (and isn't so
up filters to automatically reject them (though the reject
message will not be very helpful).
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(these are different names for the same mailbox).
Getting a second regular subscription won't do anything, but I was
suggesting adding a DIGEST subscription, which will arrive (eventually)
and thus giving you confirmation that the message did go through.
-
t the
principles of "Internet Message Format".
i have have now many alternatives.
1) the proposal from Richard Damon
2) a second account on gmail
3) a non-gmail account like gmx (i have) or a new riseup account
Many thanks for your proposals.
But, please, let us discuss more about t
mail address. If you subscribe to the
Mime-Digest, you will even get messages with headers.
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dropped. It is not
checking for the messages being "identical", it is detecting
"duplicates", as defined by the RFCs for Email (if two messages are
different, they must have different Message-ID:s).
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or
to the group.
Well, won't this break DKIM?
Regards
Bjoern
If they didn't break DKIM already, they wouldn't need to do this, as
they could leave From: unchanged and pass DMARC!
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e a few things like digest type that won't do
anything if you are not getting a digest, but that is different than
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