years. The EOL date has already been
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his time, no more
extensions, declared EOL.
It's not that I need anything Mailman 2 doesn't do. (Except run on
Python 3.) It's that I need Python 2 to be gone, dead and buried with a
fork stuck in it. I'm just waiting for Gentoo's Mailman 3 ebuild to be
flagged stable.
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unmasked. The process of stabilizing a
mailman3 ebuild is ongoing and I've been monitoring it.
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> rock band (who needs no steekin' accents, we just hammer and bend the
> strings!)
This is clearly a story I didn't know. :) And now I'm curious...
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years (with most of that time, only one person
working on it).
What has this yielded?
"Most of the most commonly used parts" of Twisted are now Python 3
compatible.
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re what
codebase you're actually running, except that it's probably neither fish
nor fowl nor good red meat.
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man are variations in spelling — and it's a pretty safe bet
there that practically anyone who is subscribing to a Mailman list in
the first place isn't going to be thrown by those minor differences.
It's not as though UK English spells password "phaughtrufflemote" or
anythin
x27;t tried.
Do you get any actual, legitimate mail from .icu? Do you have any real
subscribers from .icu? If not, I'd consider just blocking the entire
TLD. I've blocked several of the new shit TLDs from which I was
receiving nothing but spam, and it's enormously reduced my
too. There is a 3.1.1
ebuild for both mailman and mailmanclient, but net-mail/mailman-3.1.1 is
still masked.
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On 1/7/19 4:19 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 20:37, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>> Which is expected because Mailman 2.1 does not support Python 3 and
>> never will.
>
> Noted! I thought I could eliminate python2 from my server :)
Not yet, unfortunately.
SetHandler cgi-script
Options +MultiViews
Require all granted
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2. Restart Postfix
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On 07/19/18 19:27, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 07/19/2018 03:59 PM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
>>
>> Actually, mailing lists and other redistribution are among the places
>> DMARC notably breaks. The real answer, which was created for this
>> purpose, is ARC (Authenticate
uthenticated Received Chain). That is designed from
the start to pass through mailing lists unbroken.
(Or so I'm told.)
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On 07/04/18 15:10, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 7/4/18 11:52 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
>> This looks like it's failing to acquire a lock file. Investigating, I
>> discovered this:
>
>
> There was probably a stale lock due to Mailman not being cleanly
> terminate
n/logs:22 # ls -l /var/lib/mailman/locks
total 8
-rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 50 Jul 5 2018 master-qrunner
-rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 50 Jul 5 2018 master-qrunner.minbar.15895
Does anyone have any idea what's going on here?
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re moderator approval for subscription,
then simply discard all subscription requests.
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aked my email address.
Just because an address is plus-extended does not mean it is spam. If
you choose to refuse extended addresses, you risk refusing legitimate
subscribers.
Have you considered requiring CAPTCHAs for subscription?
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On 12/07/17 13:17, Jordan Brown wrote:
> On 12/7/2017 9:15 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
>> On 12/07/17 00:43, Ron Beatteay via Mailman-Users wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I’m new to mailman. My previous Listserv platform ( LSoft ) made it easy
>>> to reply to discussi
DEFAULT_REPLY_GOES_TO_LIST = 1
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htt
apparently everyone's been trying to get rid of it ever since.
> Including sunos.
Heh, I just looked at that myself. How did such a useless tool ever
become standard?
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o just get a mailing list up and running.
>
> You must be talking about Mailman 3, where the web ui and archiver are
> implemented as Django applications.
One thing to be said for Django is that at least it doesn't pull in PHP.
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amming tools and spam hosting to the ones who haven't
figured that out yet.
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You might try deploying rspamd.
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On 05/27/17 11:35, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 05/27/2017 01:07 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
>> On 27 May 2017 at 01:13, Phil Stracchino wrote:
>>>
>>> Now if only there were a mailman3 ebuild for Gentoo ...
>>
>> It's not you alone crying. There are no p
the
>> Mailman project sprinters at Pycon 2017 for getting us over the line!
>
> And I am happy to report that the Mailman 3 installations at
> <https://mail.python.org/mm3/> and <https://lists.mailman3.org/> are now
> happily running this release.
Now if only there
On 05/09/17 19:19, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 05/09/2017 03:46 PM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
>> I'm running Mailman 2.1.23 along with Postfix 3.2.0 and Apache 2.4.25.
>> I have a held message from a mailing list member who was (at the user's
>> request) placed on modera
rk either.
Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this problem, and how I
can fix it and prevent future occurrences? Except for simply never
using moderation?
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of life. I am the only one actively
supporting it at this point and while I continue to offer help and fix
bugs, it's not what I want to be doing.
There's no Gentoo ebuild for mailman3 yet. Hopefully that will change...
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manual moderation. If you can
devise a strong AI to do the moderation, more power to you. But you
cannot do it without smart natural-language processing. You cannot do
it with 100% accuracy using regex. Period. Like XHTML parsing,[2] it
is not a problem that can be solved with regex.
[1] Well
ndb page,
(2) if I try to approve it via email, MailMan tells me the
confirmation string is invalid or has expired.
Any suggestions, anyone?
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usr/local/mailman/data/aliases.db
are incorrect. Make sure that the user or group that the CGI runs under
(typically the gid you set in --with-cgi-gid) has write permissions to
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theory as to why this disparity should be present?
(2) offer any suggestions for how to fix it?
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: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
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On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 12:31:53AM -0500, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> Test
___
Moo-wizards mailing list
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http://
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./bin/fix_url.py.
Hmmm... I suspect this fix_url.py may be part of the answer to my own
question. I'll look into it and see if it helps.
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ilman/listinfo or as
http://www.caerllewys.net/mailman/listinfo.
Is this possible?
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On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 01:07:20PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is happening?
s/Van Gogh/Edvard Munch/
:)
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un
e lists that
> are under one Umbrella list, then that user will receive multiple mailings
> from one message sent to the Umbrella list. In the example above,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] would receive two messages everytime someone sent an email to
> "Threesomes".
>
>
file/print server. It allows a Unix
machine to provide file and print services to Windows PCs. It does not
and cannot provide mailing list services.
Trust me on this, Karl: Go buy some books on Linux and read them like I
told you.
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> purposes.
No, but you can insert the HTML you want by hand per-list from the
administrative pages, or site-wide by editing the templates. It only took
me a few seconds to do.
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system, all three of which have to work together and work properly to
do what you want. It's a very steep learning curve, and you're not
giving yourself much time to learn it. Your lack of knowledge limits
our ability to help you because it limits your ability to know the
Microsoft.
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e on
fixing anything that this patch breaks. It's still a mystery to me why
the archiver should even *care* whether or not the mbox archive directory
exists, when mbox archives are disabled in the master configuration
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I'm trying to send because of something in my message, or merely because
it's suddenly decided I'm persona non grata.
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o get what you missed the first time. Then read the
intermediate book. Do every exercise and example. Then come back and try
to install Mailman again, and this time, read the instructions and do as
they say. By that point, you'll probably understand enough of them to get
it instal
.
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On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 05:38:49PM +0100, Karl Carlile wrote:
> Ha! Ha!
>
> Even I know that much.
Karl,
You know that. I know that. But we're talking an AOL user here
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to view greeting card sites on the web. If a
greeting card site is telling you that you do, then they are telling you
nonsense.
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et friends use Microsoft.
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Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
>
> Alias /pipermail/ "$home/mailman/archives/public/"
Try adding:
SetHandler cgi-script
I had the same problem, and this worked for me. (Except for my archives,
which I still can't figure out.)
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On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 01:36:55PM -0700, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> > *8-year-old kids* fer crissake know that it doesn't cost any money to
> > answer a call when the phone rings.
>
> On a land line in the US.
>
>
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 08:20:58AM -0500, Ed Wilts wrote:
> On Saturday 23 June 2001 05:27 pm, Phil Stracchino wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 11:10:29PM +0100, Karl Carlile wrote:
> > > If you put mailman on a machine such as pentium three to use it as a
> > > mai
rect path to be
generated?
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> Karl
This is a troll, right?
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rg/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>,
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/>
What are you using to send and read mail, and does it have an option to
show you message headers?
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er you should be administering a mailing list.
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FM first.
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sage. You can only make it just so easy.)
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Are the database directories supposed to be empty? Are these two
items connected?
I'm using Mailman 2.0.5, Python-2.1, and Postfix, on a Linux-2.4 system.
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those ten posts individually as they
come in.
-- Digest members get all ten together at the end of the day, collected
into a single "digest" message.
Simple, no?
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, it takes a little time and
thought.
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On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:44:10AM -0700, J C Lawrence wrote:
> Do some Google searches on Chuq. He's earned, not claimed, his
> laurels.
You're preaching to the choir. :)
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On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 11:46:41AM -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, June 13, 2001, at 11:38 AM, Phil Stracchino wrote:
>
> > They don't want you to teach them how to fish ...
> > learning is hard, and they might hurt themselves on the hook.
>
>
sh. They just want to be given the damn fish already, and hey, get me
another beer while you're up, huh? And you're not gonna make me clean and
cook that thing myself, are you?
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On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 01:27:20PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Please canal my users info thank you!
Sorry, no can do. Mail is packet-based, and that's a streaming operation.
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-c lossage, they may just unsubscribe and tell him to go blow.
(OK, so the extra header itself isn't actually going to load down the
server or the network that much. Your PHB doesn't need to know that.)
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a user's guide or any documentation.
Sounds to me like you didn't configure the list aliases in your MTA.
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o postfix, and
I haven't learned any trick yet by which this can be accomplished. What's
the secret?
(I'd also like to be able to get my archives working, but ... that's
another issue.)
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Can anyone offer any assistance with getting my list archives working?
Original post follows:
- Forwarded message from Phil Stracchino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
I seem to be having a problem with archiving for Mailman lists.
I have mailman 2.0.5 installed in /opt/mailman on a Sla
lman-2.0.5 with Python-2.1, and also had module import
errors. I discovered that the problem is that Python-2.1's "make install"
installed files into /usr/lib/python2.1 with severely FUBARed permissions.
Try this:
chown -R root.root /usr/lib/python2.1
chmod -R go-w,a+rX /usr
to what may be wrong here and why my
archives aren't working? I'm guessing it has something to do with those
zero-length index.html files, but I don't know why they're not being
properly generated.
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