Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-18 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
On 9/18/06 10:26 AM, JC Dill wrote: > If Barry wants to let the list be gatewayed to gmane and usenet over our > objections, he is certainly entitled to do that. It will also mean that > he will need new people to help manage the various lists that Brad and I > help manage because I'm with Brad

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-18 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
On 9/18/06 10:26 AM, JC Dill wrote: > 2) Even if Gmane wasn't a PITA, there are increased problems with > managing a list when it's gatewayed to usenet. Gmane is not a Usenet gateway. Please see http://gmane.org/ for more about what Gmane is and is not. --

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-18 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
On 9/17/06 11:20 PM, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: >> Great, thanks Barry. I'll take care of getting the MM lists + back >> archives added to Gmane. The missing Python lists are someone else's >> problem . Since MM is your project, shouldn't your words above >> be sufficient as far as permission to ad

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-18 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
On 9/18/06 7:37 AM, John A. Martin wrote: > Unless I am missing something, the form at > does not include a place for the > list-owner address. It sees to me therefore unrealistic to expect the > Gmane administrator to contact the list-owner but rather the the > pe

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-17 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
On 9/17/06 9:36 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Taking a fresh look at this, I say let's do what we can to get the lists > on Gmane, including any back archives. > > Jason, perhaps you can mediate here, since you seem to know both the > Gmane and Mailman/Python organizations. If the Gmane administrat

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-17 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
On 9/17/06 2:32 AM, Brad Knowles wrote: > What parts of the Mailman community can only access this mailing list > (and the archives) via services like Gmane, as opposed to subscribing to > this mailing list, and reading our public archives that we maintain on > python.org and at mail-archive.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-16 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
On 9/16/06 11:32 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > If the Gmane folks had actually come to us first, we might well have > approved their request to set up a gateway. So because you feel personally offended, you choose to punish all Mailman users by not letting Gmane carry their lists? I think you are

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-16 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
I understand what you're saying, but seriously, who cares if the mailman lists were added without anyone's approval? Gmane is a valuable and useful service and does no damage to anyone. You could think of it as someone doing the project a favor rather than something that needs "forgiveness."

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-16 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
:07 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 6:30 PM + 9/16/06, Jason R. Mastaler wrote: > >> I was surprised to find the Mailman lists not on Gmane, and some >> googling revealed some sort of religious flame war I don't really want >> to get into. > > The reason that

[Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-16 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
I was surprised to find the Mailman lists not on Gmane, and some googling revealed some sort of religious flame war I don't really want to get into. But, I think at the very least, mailman-announce should be carried on Gmane. I don't see how that would hurt anyone. I'd really like to just ad

[Mailman-Users] empty archive messages from "bogus@does.not.exist.com"

2001-04-30 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
My Mailman list archives are being populated by lots of empty messages that look like this: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] () Date: Mon Apr 30 11:55:01 2001 Subject: No subject They started showing up around the time I started using "preline" before calling "wrapper" in response to this FAQ entry

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python-2.1 Compatibility?

2001-04-18 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
Barry A. Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I plan on releasing a very simple 2.0.4 patch that should do nothing > but add Python 2.1 compatibility Glad to hear it, thanks. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.o

[Mailman-Users] Python-2.1 Compatibility?

2001-04-17 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
I tried upgrading to Python-2.1 this morning, and qrunner didn't seem to like this: From: root (Cron Daemon) Subject: Cron /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/qrunner To: mailman Date: 17 Apr 2001 15:49:00 - /usr/local/mailman/cron/qrunner:0: SyntaxWarning: name '_listcache' is

[Mailman-Users] probs with qrunner crontab

2001-03-20 Thread Jason R. Mastaler
One of the mailman crontab entries seems to be malfunctioning. Any ideas what the problem is? And, is it really necessary to run this script? # Retry failed deliveries once per minute. * * * * * /usr/contrib/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/qrunner From: root (Cron Daemon) Subject: Cron