Re: [Mailman-Users] Diagnosing command failures

2015-01-22 Thread Gary Merrill
Again, thanks to all of you for your responses. There are a number of thorny issues in attempting to "fix" (or at least address) what is "wrong" here. The original conceptual model of something like Mailman isn't quite right for the situation being faced today in the types of capabilities and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Diagnosing command failures

2015-01-21 Thread Gary Merrill
I don't think this is the problem. So far as I know he has been using single-word passwords with only alphabetic characters in them. I'm really surprised that there would have been a bug involving initial or terminal whitespace, but I suppose these things happen. (Trying to imagine how that coul

Re: [Mailman-Users] Diagnosing command failures

2015-01-21 Thread Gary Merrill
t; From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:01 PM > To: ghmerr...@chathamdesign.com; mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Diagnosing command failures > > On 01/20/2015 06:59 PM, Gary Merrill wrote: > > I was really

Re: [Mailman-Users] Diagnosing command failures

2015-01-20 Thread Gary Merrill
2015 6:09 PM > To: mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Diagnosing command failures > > On 01/19/2015 08:30 AM, Gary Merrill wrote: > > > > Second, this is a mailing list for a (loosely run) community band, > > this user is the president of the band

Re: [Mailman-Users] Diagnosing command failures

2015-01-19 Thread Gary Merrill
Thanks. The suggestions you make about typographical/character issues are precisely the ones I have made to him -- in part because he has made such errors previously in other contexts. But unless Mailman provides me with some kind of record or error log, I have no way of verifying what password h

[Mailman-Users] Diagnosing command failures

2015-01-19 Thread Gary Merrill
Is there any technique to diagnose precisely why/how a particular (email) command to a list has failed? I have a user (a SINGLE user, so far as I know) who cannot get the list of members by using the 'who ' command. He successfully gets his password with the 'password' command, but the 'who' c