Re: [Mailman-Users] Help! Can't turn it off!

2001-02-23 Thread Ed Lazor
When you say there's no crontab, have you checked /etc/crontab or logged in as root (or mailman) and run crontab -e ? At 04:39 PM 2/23/2001 -0800, METAgency wrote: >I have taken mailman off my machine for the moment, but cron is sending >me an email every minute with this message: >/usr/bin/p

Re: [Mailman-Users] Stupid Headers

2001-02-16 Thread Ed Lazor
>Mr. Hillson, Ed, and others should realize that honey catches more >flies than vinegar. And that the majority of Mailman developers >aren't being paid for this work. Don't try to fire volunteers. >They're hard to find. Trust me. I certainly don't want to fire anyone. I also tried to suppres

Re: [Mailman-Users] Stupid Headers

2001-02-16 Thread Ed Lazor
>I do disagree with Ed it is not a matter of freedom, it is a matter of >respect, and some of you having not shown any respect for Ed and his >opinions. He started out being very respectful of you and he had been >very considerate until some of you started getting nasty about him >requesting for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail headers with Mailman

2001-02-15 Thread Ed Lazor
>When can we expect your patch for the FAQ? I sent out a full listing of the changes I made to remove the headers last week. If someone else would like to create a patch, that would be great, because I don't know how to. This is one of the reasons why I was hoping to appeal to people on the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail headers with Mailman

2001-02-15 Thread Ed Lazor
>We have different definitions of "unreasonable". I consider that >not requiring your members to such is not only unreasonable, but >foolhardy.YMMV. Having different definitions is fine. I respect your opinion. I'm also glad I don't follow all of the proposed standards on the net and for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail headers with Mailman

2001-02-15 Thread Ed Lazor
>Right. So let's add an entry to the FAQ: > >Q: How do I remove the List-* headers from Mailman's mail? >A: You don't. It's a sad state of affairs when the value of a law or standard becomes greater than the concerns of the people it's supposed to support. --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail headers with Mailman

2001-02-15 Thread Ed Lazor
>Well, (a) it's a rarely-asked, not frequently-asked, question, and (b) it >will slow adoption of the RFC. If it's a rarely-asked question, then posting something for those who do ask should be seen as a step towards customer service and present no threat to adoption of the RFC. I originally

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail headers with Mailman

2001-02-15 Thread Ed Lazor
>HOWEVER, since the source code is freely available, you have it within >your power to modify it and remove the offending lines of code that >generate the "extra" headers. > >Do we *really* have to go through this again and again? How about adding something to the FAQ that describes what changes

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail headers with Mailman

2001-02-15 Thread Ed Lazor
>I use Eudora at home all the time, though, and it DOESN'T show these >headers by default... This is because you've upgraded Eudora to the most recent version and / or made changes to the TabooHeaders parameter in the eudora.ini file. Right? And if that's the case, are you suggesting people

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail headers with Mailman

2001-02-15 Thread Ed Lazor
>One question that has been asked repeatedly of the people on your side if >this question and never answered: what MUAs show these headers by default? From feedback I've received, it appears Eudora is the most widely used MUA showing these headers. I think a few people were using old versions

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail headers with Mailman

2001-02-15 Thread Ed Lazor
>The users should not be shown these headers by a sane MUA. If your MUA >is forcing these headers on users then it is non-RFC compliant and >should be taken out and shot. Aren't these headers part of the "proposed" RFC? If so, you can't call the MUA non-RFC compliant, since the proposal hasn'

[Mailman-Users] email headers, follow-up

2001-02-09 Thread Ed Lazor
Since my post the other day, I've been getting a lot of personal email asking how to remove the extra headers in the most recent version of Mailman. I've responded individually to help as much as possible, but maybe it's time I posted something to the mailman users list. In addition, some of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Chat Live with a CPA

2001-02-09 Thread Ed Lazor
Getting email spam on this list is kind of ironic, don't you think? hehe At 12:42 PM 2/9/2001 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >FREE Chat with a CPA on your tax questions, wondering what 8a on your 1040 >means. Our CPAs will answer your questions FREE. Need a CPA in your area? >Search our 450

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web Site requests

2001-02-09 Thread Ed Lazor
At 06:56 AM 2/9/2001 -0700, Richard wrote: >PLEASE!! list the current version number on the main page somewhere. >Also, please post the change log somewhere obvious on the web site. > >These two quite small things would save many of us hours of work and >many megabytes of downloads. I agree that

RE: [Mailman-Users] email headers question?

2001-02-05 Thread Ed Lazor
Hi Matt =) At 06:25 PM 2/5/2001 -0800, Matt Thoene wrote: >You need to go easy on Dan...he knows everything and a bag of chips >regarding MailMan. Nod. I could tell. I'd classify his response as one of those "oh god, not another stupid newbie question!". hehe >Did you try just a plain googl

Re: [Mailman-Users] email headers question?

2001-02-05 Thread Ed Lazor
At 06:03 PM 2/3/2001 -0800, you wrote: >If you've really been through the archives discussion, then you've seen > >1) a way to disable them, and >2) the overwhelming opinion that it is a really bad idea, and >3) several different ways for your users to avoid seeing the headers if >their sensibilit

Re: [Mailman-Users] How far can I modify the original screen?

2001-02-03 Thread Ed Lazor
Try playing with the files in the templates folder of your install directory. They have html that you can modify to change the look of your pages. At 07:42 PM 2/3/2001 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: >To what extent can I modify the original mailman screen, >as seen in .../listinfo/ ? > >I'd lik

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems sending mail to mailing list

2001-02-03 Thread Ed Lazor
At 01:17 PM 2/3/2001 -0500, Matt Jenkins wrote: >Whenever I send to a list, I get no error messages back as a reply nor do I >find anything in the mailman error logs. Mailman is installed in >/home/mailman on a RedHat 6.2 system. Anyone have any clues? Thanks in >advance. Have you checked root

[Mailman-Users] email headers question?

2001-02-03 Thread Ed Lazor
their email client's configuration files. Bottom line: are there server-side changes I can make to remove / hide these headers? Thanks in advance for any advice / help you could provide. Sincerely, Ed Lazor The AtFantasy Alliance Your source for imagination. http://www.AtFantasy.co