[Mailman-Users] Re: Malicious web subscription requests

2025-06-24 Thread Bill Cole
cribe requests to seemingly random people? I don't think we know. I think we do. The targets are not random. It is intentional directed harassment. There are still enough unverified subscription forms out there to amass a formidable mailbomb. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@

[Mailman-Users] Re: Writing to list bounces with 'user doesn't exist'

2025-05-12 Thread Bill Cole
t should be without full 'postconf -Mf' and 'postconf -nf' output and maybe more details about why you have a "dovecot-smtp" transport defined using lmtp at all. E.g. On all my Mailman boxes with postfix "virtual_transport = virtual" but that's also t

[Mailman-Users] Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.2.0 We're sorry, we hit a bug!

2025-03-29 Thread Bill Cole
archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: mailmanu-20190...@billmail.scconsult.com -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo@toad.social and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) No

[Mailman-Users] Re: Text encoding problems

2025-03-28 Thread Bill Cole
ons to the version of Mailman 2 that the rest of the world uses. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo@toad.social and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire -- Mailman-Use

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman subscribe confirmation

2024-07-05 Thread Bill Cole
illmail.scconsult.com -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo@toad.social and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org T

[Mailman-Users] Re: Delayed messages

2022-10-08 Thread Bill Cole
r provider about how Exim is configured. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@pyt

[Mailman-Users] Re: Search box for archives

2022-10-07 Thread Bill Christensen
could probably code a simple form to do that for you. I had considered MonHarc back in the day, but never got around to implementing it.  And since it's probably not secure these days (see previous message in this thread) I'm glad I didn't. -- Bill Christensen http://Sustain

[Mailman-Users] Re: Odd issue after setting Mailman to use https by default.

2022-06-21 Thread Bill Cole
python.org/ -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-16 Thread Bill Cole
end user to deploy SA for their own mail without root access. Also: procmail is antique abandonware that no one should use in 2022, but it can be very hard to replace. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not

[Mailman-Users] Re: Plus addressing

2022-03-22 Thread Bill Cole
or similar tools can see the address of every person posting to the list. If one uses an email address in a public way for long enough, it will get to spammers. Even if you don't use it publicly, spammers may land on it with guesses and other users might typo their addresses to yours when giv

[Mailman-Users] Re: Plus addressing

2022-03-22 Thread Bill Cole
(or other related 'tagging' schemes) to support such rules. Of course, that's not the business of a mailing list operator. We should assume that our users know what they're doing and that it isn't our business unless they need help. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc

[Mailman-Users] Re: max value of mailman2

2022-02-15 Thread Bill Cole
sion lists more than it is for high-volume announcement/marketing lists. It takes significant MTA and backend tuning to mail more than a few thousand users in a reasonable amount of time, and Mailman is not always the right choice for that. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apach

[Mailman-Users] Re: Should CSRF check disregard case of addresses?

2021-12-13 Thread Bill Cole
omain. You cannot programmatically determine whether 2 different local-parts are equivalent unless you run the delivery system for them. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For

[Mailman-Users] First time question

2021-06-12 Thread Bill Healy
email addresses from @ to @? Best wishes, Bill Healy BSc BA Dip Ed CEO Message me directly for assistance +61 (0)413 425 374 Kilbaha Pty Ltd (Est. 1978) ABN: 47 065 111 373 *https://kilbaha.com.au <https://kilbaha.com.au>* *Providing Quality Resources to Schools and Parents sinc

[Mailman-Users] Re: Highlighted text disappears

2021-03-28 Thread Bill Cole
messages. Many users (including myself) also preferentially only display the plaintext version of multipart messages and so only reply to what is in that part. Because any "highlighting" is only present in non-plaintext email, lists and users who stick to plaintext do not see

[Mailman-Users] Re: CPU %-usage surge associated with list archives

2020-11-17 Thread Bill Cole
On 16 Nov 2020, at 2:17, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Bill Cole writes: On 15 Nov 2020, at 22:18, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: I don't see why access to archives would cause a security issue, Thanks for the reply! Also FWIW, I'm explaining here why I don't think this is a Mai

[Mailman-Users] Re: CPU %-usage surge associated with list archives

2020-11-15 Thread Bill Cole
7;t instantaneous and stomps on any customization that hasn't been written into the persistent policy. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire -

[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-20 Thread Bill Cole
"openssl," then on any recent system it is actually a recent and reasonably safe LibreSSL. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not For Hire (currently)

[Mailman-Users] Re: Problem running CGI - Mailman Admin UI

2020-07-24 Thread Bill Cole
FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybo

Re: [Mailman-Users] The last release from the GNU Mailman project (was: Handling Munged From Addresses)

2020-02-27 Thread Bill Cole
have vague recollections that both Barry and Mark have said repeatedly that doing so would be substantially more effort than they are willing to put into anything built on the MM2 architecture. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scc

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.18 for RHEL 5

2020-02-17 Thread Bill Cole
inate versioning. I know from working on the SpamAssassin security team that RH is particularly attentive to security issues and other major bugfixes. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not For Hire (curr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Apache subscription Referer rules

2020-01-13 Thread Bill Cole
ep is to read https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/rewrite/access.html#blocked-inline-images and adapt the example to your site. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman not functional

2019-10-17 Thread Bill Cole
-responsive DNS server or servers but eventually hits one that works, login and anything involving email transport will be plagued by delays. So: check /etc/resolv.conf and make sure all listed servers are responding to queries. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-26 Thread Bill Richards
t; etc. in them. Plus the archives are no longer accessible. Right now I am stumped. Bill On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 5:45 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 8/25/19 10:40 AM, Bill Richards wrote: > > Mark > > > > Ran dumpdb against all the pck files and saw no instances of "new

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-25 Thread Bill Richards
ew that link in the AM and see if that is it. Thanks for the help Bill On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 5:45 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 8/25/19 10:40 AM, Bill Richards wrote: > > Mark > > > > Ran dumpdb against all the pck files and saw no instances of "new-" yet > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-25 Thread Bill Richards
Mark Ran dumpdb against all the pck files and saw no instances of "new-" yet when using find /home -xdev -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -H "new-" it finds matches in config.pck, config.pck.last & config.pck.safety On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 8:28 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: &g

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-24 Thread Bill Richards
r to get the attributes? Bill On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 5:32 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 8/24/19 3:14 PM, Bill Richards wrote: > > > > After digging around I've found that I maybe experiencing some kind if > > config corruption in pck files under /var/lib/mailman/lists/mailman

[Mailman-Users] Mailman errors

2019-08-24 Thread Bill Richards
allation of mailman and has been in use for many years. This issue seemed to have started occurring in July of this year. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bill Richards mailman version 2.1.12 Previous message: = A few weeks ago a

[Mailman-Users] Fwd: Mailman errors

2019-08-13 Thread Bill Richards
A few weeks ago are started experiencing problems with approving and/or discarding messages. I am also unable to add/delete users to the list via the web interface but I can add/delete from the command line. Also, I cannot approve or delete moderated messages from the web interface. I suspect ei

[Mailman-Users] Fwd: Mailman errors

2019-08-12 Thread Bill Richards
A few weeks ago are started experiencing problems with approving and/or discarding messages. I am also unable to add/delete users to the list but messages from approved list members work fine. I suspect either some file has become corrupted or a permissions issue. I also see entries such as the

Re: [Mailman-Users] messages fail to @yahoo @aol @outlook

2019-07-28 Thread Bill Cole
ders' "p=reject" DMARC policies. If a mailing list makes any change to messages, it should also either munge From or wrap messages to avoid problems. You can do that for all messages, only for "p=reject" sender domains, or for both "p=reject" and "p=qu

Re: [Mailman-Users] messages fail to @yahoo @aol @outlook

2019-07-28 Thread Bill Cole
On 28 Jul 2019, at 11:25, Loren Engrav via Mailman-Users wrote: > and searched archives > and see this goes back years and years > is there a quick fix I missed in the archives? This looks like a DMARC problem. See https://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to secure the list server web page

2019-03-01 Thread Bill Cole
o note: if you do this on a machine managed by cPanel, you will need to redo the last step ($prefix/bin/withlist -l -r fix_url) daily after the nightly maintenance cron job, which reverts whatever fix_url does. There is an open bug at cPanel (opened last week) to fix that. -- Bill Cole b...@sccon

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to kill zombie pending moderator requests?

2019-02-16 Thread Bill Cole
painless as possible. Thanks for the help! -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Available For Hire: https://linkedin.com/in/billcole -- Mailman-Users mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to kill zombie pending moderator requests?

2019-02-16 Thread Bill Cole
On 16 Feb 2019, at 13:00, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 2/15/19 9:40 AM, Bill Cole wrote: I recently migrated a set of Mailman lists from a standard 2.1.18 installation (on ancient RedHat) to a cPanel host (CentOS 7) running Mailman 2.1.27. One glitch in that migration involves a pending moderation

[Mailman-Users] How to kill zombie pending moderator requests?

2019-02-16 Thread Bill Cole
ck means, although I expect it is relevant. The other 3 lists that were migrated in the same way at the same time which did not have pending issues have similar pending.pck contents but DO NOT generate the phantom notifications. My first impulse is to just clobber the pending.pck file, but I am

[Mailman-Users] Unsubscribe line missing

2017-03-14 Thread Bill Healy
for any advice. Bill Healy CEO Kilbaha Multimedia Publishing (Est. 1978) Melbourne Australia -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3

Re: [Mailman-Users] Which user is harvesting sender emails?

2016-08-19 Thread Bill Cole
On 19 Aug 2016, at 11:13, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Bill Cole wrote: On 19 Aug 2016, at 10:39, Jim Popovitch wrote: PRVS/BATV How is that relevant to this issue? Well it's not, it's only relevant to what you and Mark were discussing (modificati

Re: [Mailman-Users] Which user is harvesting sender emails?

2016-08-19 Thread Bill Cole
On 19 Aug 2016, at 10:39, Jim Popovitch wrote: PRVS/BATV How is that relevant to this issue? BATV only applies to the envelope sender address, which any proper mailing list (including any Mailman list) completely replaces with its own bounce address so that bounces go to the mailing list so

Re: [Mailman-Users] Which user is harvesting sender emails?

2016-08-19 Thread Bill Cole
On 18 Aug 2016, at 19:36, Mark Sapiro wrote: Altering the From: based on recipient can be done by modifying the code. Say you have a message "From: Ann User " and you want to change that to "From: Ann User " where xxx is a unique code for each recipient. Please, don't anyone do that, ever.

[Mailman-Users] Mailman3 administration

2016-06-18 Thread Bill
d use any pertinent advice about supportive distros, available packages, the amount of extra administration involved or perhaps, in a worst case scenario, alternate list managers supporting a virtual domains feature similar to Mailman3. Thanks for your help, Bill McGrath President, Vancouv

Re: [Mailman-Users] Many users unsubscribed at once (not by me)

2015-12-14 Thread Bill Cole
On 13 Dec 2015, at 13:56, Mark Sapiro wrote: In fact, the fact that almost all the unsubscribed users were hotmail makes it seem that this is not DMARC, but more likely hotmail (Microsoft) blocking the sending IP. And with the one other being live.com.au (roughly: Australian Hotmail) it becom

Re: [Mailman-Users] merging 2 mailing lists

2015-07-07 Thread Bill Cole
On 7 Jul 2015, at 7:15, Laura Creighton wrote: In a message of Tue, 07 Jul 2015 00:33:00 -0400, "Bill Cole" writes: On 6 Jul 2015, at 9:26, Laura Creighton wrote: 2 somebodies I know want to merge their mailing lists. Have they bothered asking each and every subscriber and r

Re: [Mailman-Users] merging 2 mailing lists

2015-07-06 Thread Bill Cole
On 6 Jul 2015, at 9:26, Laura Creighton wrote: 2 somebodies I know want to merge their mailing lists. Have they bothered asking each and every subscriber and received an affirmative reply? No? Imagine my shock... The correct answer to this is "No, you can't. You don't have subscriber permi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating a list to a new email address

2015-05-23 Thread Bill Christensen
ban ready to install but just haven't had time to configure it yet. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Adam McGreggor wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 02:38:01PM +0100, David Osborne wrote: > > On 15/05/15 05:32, Bill Christensen wrote: > > >I long ago routed real users to an

Re: [Mailman-Users] List not archiving, not sending mail, mischief log shows 'Hostile listname: "

2015-05-19 Thread Bill Christensen
ajor lists we run continue to work as intended. Thanks for your help! On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/17/2015 10:14 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: > > On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > > >> If this is a one-time oc

Re: [Mailman-Users] List not archiving, not sending mail, mischief log shows 'Hostile listname: "

2015-05-17 Thread Bill Christensen
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/17/2015 01:58 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: > > > > I'm using Gmail for all our email addresses, and pulling the mail into > > Mailman using Fetchmail. It's been working fine for years. > > > &

[Mailman-Users] List not archiving, not sending mail, mischief log shows 'Hostile listname: "

2015-05-17 Thread Bill Christensen
Mark, Adding the line SUBSCRIBE_FORM_SECRET = 'Some string unique to your site" in mm_cfg.py definitely made a huge difference to the spam registration problem I was having. Looks like I may not need to migrate the list to a new address after all. One more problem to solve. I'm using

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating a list to a new email address

2015-05-15 Thread Bill Christensen
Excellent. I didn't know about the clone_list script. On 5/15/15 12:21 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Privacy options... -> Subscription rules -> subscribe_policy st to Require approval and then discard all requests. when you say "discard all requests", is there a way to do that automatically? With

[Mailman-Users] Migrating a list to a new email address

2015-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
Hi all, I have a long running list with thousands of subscribers that needs to move to a new set of email addresses. The existing list is announce-only, so doesn't get a whole lot of traffic - typically at most a few outgoing emails a year. But some time back a bot started sending spam regi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3

2015-05-12 Thread Bill . Costa
o problems. But I am finding the Mailman v3 install instructions a bit hard to follow. If I run into brick wall, is this the appropriate forum for any questions I may have? ...BC -- =[ bill.co...@unh.edu ]== Bill Costa 1 Leavitt Lane UNH IT -- 1st Floor Uni

[Mailman-Users] Possible problems using a site-wide list auto-responder?

2015-05-05 Thread Bill . Costa
ll.co...@unh.edu ]== Bill Costa 1 Leavitt Lane UNH IT -- 1st Floor University of New Hampshire Durham, NH 03824 USA Voice: +1-603-862-3056 No good deed... Goes unpunished. ===[ http://pubpages.unh.edu/~wfc ]== -- Ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mystery of the site-wide mailing list...

2015-05-05 Thread Bill . Costa
for making the site contact customization. ...BC -- =[ bill.co...@unh.edu ]== Bill Costa 1 Leavitt Lane UNH IT -- 1st Floor University of New Hampshire Durham, NH 03824 USA Voice: +1-603-862-3056 No good deed... Goes unpunished. =

[Mailman-Users] Mystery of the site-wide mailing list...

2015-05-04 Thread Bill . Costa
ions would be welcomed. ...BC -- =[ bill.co...@unh.edu ]== Bill Costa 1 Leavitt Lane UNH IT -- 1st Floor University of New Hampshire Durham, NH 03824 USA Voice: +1-603-862-3056 No good deed... Goes unpunished. ===

[Mailman-Users] Cron command?

2015-04-20 Thread Bill Christensen
Hi all, I recently updated and my digests stopped going out (I was able to push out the waiting digest manually by doing /opt/local/share/mailman/cron/senddigests so I know the function is working). My old notes tell me the command for cron is: sudo /opt/local/share/mailman/cron/crontab -u mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-07 Thread Bill Cole
On 6 Apr 2015, at 20:02, Andrew Stuart wrote: Sounds like not working with JavaScript is something important to you. What’s the thinking behind wanting to work without JavaScript? Isn’t it kinda hard to navigate the modern web without JavaScript? I don't know the original poster's motivatio

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

2015-04-06 Thread Bill Christensen
On 3/20/15 8:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 3/19/2015 6:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: In many mail user agents, when you press the "Reply" button the program will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came from a list and offer a "Reply to List" option in addition to a simpl

Re: [Mailman-Users] File placement during installation...

2015-03-05 Thread Bill . Costa
s. ...if strict FHS compliance is not a requirement, I'd recommend just configuring with --prefix=/usr/lib/mailman and --with-var-prefix=/var/lib/mailman and going with that. That sounds like a reasonable approach. Thanks! ...BC -- =[ bill.co...@un

[Mailman-Users] File placement during installation...

2015-03-04 Thread Bill . Costa
g the default RHEL system Python! ...BC -- =====[ bill.co...@unh.edu ]== Bill Costa 1 Leavitt Lane UNH IT -- 1st Floor University of New Hampshire Durham, NH 03824 USA Voice: +1-603-862-3056 No good deed... Goes unpunished. =

Re: [Mailman-Users] ListProc to Mailman migration -- any tools or guides?

2015-03-02 Thread Bill . Costa
mbox format... That should be no problem. ...BC -- =[ bill.co...@unh.edu ]== Bill Costa 1 Leavitt Lane UNH IT -- 1st Floor University of New Hampshire Durham, NH 03824 USA Voice: +1-603-862-3056 No good deed... Goes unpunished.

Re: [Mailman-Users] ListProc to Mailman migration -- any tools or guides?

2015-03-02 Thread Bill . Costa
announcement lists by college and class year, or even down to major code, with a weekly update from Registrar's records. I'll have to build that all over again for Mailman. Doesn't look like it should be too bad using the command line tools. Thanks for the observations and advice. ...B

Re: [Mailman-Users] Jump from Python 2.4 to 2.7...

2015-03-02 Thread Bill . Costa
ach. Thanks for the confirmation. ...BC -- =[ bill.co...@unh.edu ]== Bill Costa 1 Leavitt Lane UNH IT -- 1st Floor University of New Hampshire Durham, NH 03824 USA Voice: +1-603-862-3056 No good deed... Goes unpunished. ===

[Mailman-Users] ListProc to Mailman migration -- any tools or guides?

2015-03-02 Thread Bill . Costa
o make sure I'm not missing a good resource for doing this. ...BC -- =[ bill.co...@unh.edu ]== Bill Costa 1 Leavitt Lane UNH IT -- 1st Floor University of New Hampshire Durham, NH 03824 USA Voice: +1-603-862-3056 No good dee

[Mailman-Users] Jump from Python 2.4 to 2.7...

2015-03-02 Thread Bill . Costa
or Mailman to use, rather than relying on the system's older Python. In general is it a good practice to give Mailman it's own Python installation rather than relying on and dinking with the system's Python. ...BC -- =[ bill.co...@unh.edu ]== B

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archiving problems

2015-01-28 Thread Bill Christensen
On 1/26/15 11:27 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 01/26/2015 09:12 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: All the archives work when in private state. But I had to manually change the owner of all the publicly available list archives to _www in private in order for them to be readable. Otherwise they get a big

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archiving problems

2015-01-26 Thread Bill Christensen
On 1/26/15 9:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 01/26/2015 06:08 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: You weren't supposed to remove/move archives/private, just the subordinate listname directories. And once again, I misspoke (mistyped). I again meant the subordinate listname directories under archives/public, no

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archiving problems

2015-01-26 Thread Bill Christensen
On 1/25/15 7:27 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 01/25/2015 05:21 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Mark Sapiro writes: > The solution is simple: > > rm -r archives/private/* You mean "rm -r archives/public/*", don't you? As given it erases all the data, no? Oh My yes! Absolutely! I hope nobody

[Mailman-Users] Archiving problems

2015-01-25 Thread Bill Christensen
Hi folks, I recently discovered that all my lists stopped archiving back in October. I have no clear idea as to what caused that, but I suspect that it may have occurred as part of some hardware and software upgrades I did around that time. I'm still stuck back at Mailman 2.1.13 because the

Re: [Mailman-Users] OS X Question --- yes I know

2014-12-09 Thread Bill Christensen
The MacPorts version works - I've been using it for years - but note that it's a good number of dot-revisions behind the current Mailman version, which is at least 2.1.18 and has some fixes I'd like to see. Unfortunately, nobody's actively maintaining the port. I thought about doing it mysel

Re: [Mailman-Users] Group mismatch again.

2014-07-14 Thread Bill Christensen
On 7/11/14 6:26 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 07/10/2014 11:13 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: The setup: Moving from Mac OS 10.8.5 to 10.9.4, on a MAMP setup, everything installed using MacPorts. Upgrading MySQL, PHP, and PostgreSQL in the process. MacPorts hasn't upgraded Mailman beyond 2.1.

[Mailman-Users] Group mismatch again.

2014-07-10 Thread Bill Christensen
Hey folks, I'm doing an upgrade/reinstall on one of my servers, and when I put Mailman back on I'm getting a group mismatch error. It's happened to me before, but I don't remember the exact procedure to make it work properly. The setup: Moving from Mac OS 10.8.5 to 10.9.4, on a MAMP setup,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
That did the trick. Thanks again. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/14/2014 07:58 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: > > Here you go: > > > > admin(38814): [- Traceback --] > > admin(38814): Traceback (most recent call last): > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Mailman broke!

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
Do you have the virtual domains listed at the end of ../mailman/mailman/mm_cfg.py ? Something like: DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = '103.greenbuilder.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = '103.greenbuilder.com' add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) add_virtualhost('builderswithoutborders.org','builderswi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
ntally hit "reply" instead of "reply list") On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/14/2014 10:42 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: > > > > The problem_list gets "we hit a bug", but since I've taken the > > subscription form off

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
On 5/14/14 10:35 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Sorry, that's my mistake. It should be if listname == 'problem_list': i.e., ==, not =. Comparing subscribe.py with subscribe.py.bak, it appears that it's in there as written. I was wondering about that. Thanks. Now the problem_list is disallowed from w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-14 Thread Bill Christensen
ame. The same happens on other lists as well. Comparing subscribe.py with subscribe.py.bak, it appears that it's in there as written. Any ideas? On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/13/2014 12:54 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: > > > > Sorry to be dense

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-13 Thread Bill Christensen
Very wide. Vietnam, China, New York, France just at a quick look. I'm looking into fail2ban now. Thanks to those of you who have mentioned it. On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > At Tue, 13 May 2014 14:54:26 -0500 Bill Christensen < > billc_li...@greenbuil

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-13 Thread Bill Christensen
I finally got a chance to look over the logs today; this is a widely distributed attack, so address blocking is probably futile. Sorry to be dense, but how do I apply that patch? Thanks On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/09/2014 12:12 PM, Bill Christensen wr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-09 Thread Bill Christensen
On 5/9/14 1:25 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 05/09/2014 10:46 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: I temporarily removed the signup form from the listinfo page in hopes of stemming the tide, and replaced it with a request to use the site's contact form so that we can manually add interested subscriber

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-09 Thread Bill Christensen
On 5/8/14 12:02 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 05/08/2014 09:31 AM, Bill Christensen wrote: Question 1: Is it possible to reverse the order of approval and confirmation when requiring both? The admin then can reject all those with duplicates, only allowing the (presumably real) single subscription

[Mailman-Users] Subscription flood

2014-05-08 Thread Bill Christensen
Hi all, I've got a problem with one of my lists where it's being flooded with spurious subscription requests. The list was set to require subscription confirmation; the innocent victims whose addresses were used for the subscription requests started complaining, as they'd get anywhere from 2

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is Mailman 2.1 not plushack aware?

2013-06-02 Thread Bill Cole
On 2 Jun 2013, at 11:50, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-06-01 1:40 PM, Bill Cole wrote: It is altogether always wrong for ANY mail software outside of a domain to parse the local part of an address in that domain except for a tiny handful of standard special local parts (e.g. "postmaster&qu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is Mailman 2.1 not plushack aware?

2013-06-01 Thread Bill Cole
On 30 May 2013, at 14:30, Jay Ashworth wrote: I just subscribed to the virtualgl-users list at SF, and I subscribed with a plushacked email address, jra+vgl@ Got the confirmation email ok, of course, but when I tried to send something, it bounced "because I'm not subscribed to the list". I'v

Re: [Mailman-Users] From Header Changed

2013-02-25 Thread Bill Cole
On 25 Feb 2013, at 8:26, Dennis Putnam wrote: I guess I'm not surprised either. Unfortunately with ISPs blocking outgoing SMTP there are few alternatives. That is generally a function of what sort of access you buy. The sad reality is that blocking port 25 helps limit the scale & cost of abus

Re: [Mailman-Users] reject on max_message_size exceeded

2012-12-07 Thread Bill Cole
On 7 Dec 2012, at 15:52, Carlos R. Pasqualini wrote: Hi i cannot find any way to reject emails (coming from valid senders) which exceeded the maximum allowed message size. mailman currently put them on hold, but i want to instantly reject it with an alert to the user. the only thing i found

Re: [Mailman-Users] split incoming mailserver from mailman

2012-08-16 Thread Bill Cole
On 16 Aug 2012, at 8:33, Marcus Schopen wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a way to separate the incoming mailserver which handles the addresses from the mailman instance, which sends mails out. I'm running sendmail as MTA. The wrapper in /etc/aliases ("|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman ...) seems to ha

Re: [Mailman-Users] SPF MAIL FROM check failed: [MAIL_FROM]

2012-05-09 Thread Bill Cole
On 9 May 2012, at 20:32, David wrote: On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:01 PM, David wrote: Re: Giving away the secrets of 99.3% email delivery 1. Constantly monitor spam blacklists. We have a set of Nagios alerts that regularly check if we’re listed on any delivery blacklists, and whenever they go o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is Character Permitted

2011-11-09 Thread Bill Cole
Mailman Admin wrote, On 11/9/11 10:25 AM: On 2011-11-09 09:55, David Andrews wrote: Is the "&" character allowed in a list name, such as in: "art&artists?" No, as it must be a valid email address. In email addresses are only the following characters allowed a to z A to Z 0 to 9 . - _ That

Re: [Mailman-Users] Group mismatch returns.

2011-10-11 Thread Bill Christensen
On 10/11/11 7:01 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Bill Christensen wrote: Recent upgrade borked my setup. [Prior posts indicate this is Mac OS 10.7 server] Group Mismatch error once again, and adding the configure line --with-mail-gid=staff and removing the line --with

[Mailman-Users] Group mismatch returns.

2011-10-11 Thread Bill Christensen
Recent upgrade borked my setup. Group Mismatch error once again, and adding the configure line --with-mail-gid=staff and removing the line --with-mail-gid=${mmgroup} as suggested doesn't fix it. What to do? How can I keep this from happening whenever I do a major upgrade/reinstall

Re: [Mailman-Users] Setup problem with Mailman

2011-10-10 Thread Bill Christensen
(and removing the line --with-mail-gid=${mmgroup} ) as suggested doesn't fix it. Next step? It seems I go through this every time I do an install of Mailman... On 10/10/11 8:52 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: Hi all, (cross posted to Macports-users and Mailman-users lists, as I'm not

[Mailman-Users] Setup problem with Mailman

2011-10-10 Thread Bill Christensen
Hi all, (cross posted to Macports-users and Mailman-users lists, as I'm not sure where the answer to the problem is more likely to come from) I upgraded a server the other day to Mac OS 10.7, and due to a new version of Macports required an uninstall/reinstall of Mailman. As seems to be the

[Mailman-Users] Problem with help2man update

2011-03-01 Thread Bill Christensen
Attempting to do updates tonight, I ran into problems with upgrading help2man. I was able to manually update most other ports. The log for help2man says: :info:configure configure: error: perl module Locale::gettext required :info:configure shell command " cd "/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_

Re: [Mailman-Users] exclude lists question

2011-01-06 Thread Bill Cole
Mark Prewitt wrote, On 1/6/11 1:54 PM: Good Day, I have two lists that have essentially the same members except for one person. Unfortunately, they are client facing lists and we have different clients using them so we cannot combine them or eliminate one which would make this so much easier.

Re: [Mailman-Users] bad cron messages from mailman?

2010-11-11 Thread Bill Janssen
* * * /usr/lib/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip Thanks! Bill -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9

[Mailman-Users] bad cron messages from mailman?

2010-11-10 Thread Bill Janssen
don't see how it would ever get on that PATH, either. Do I need to change those lines to read /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman, instead of just mailman? Bill -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mai

[Mailman-Users] new user question

2010-10-15 Thread BiLL
to send me an email when there was a post awaiting approval, but we bought a new server, and it doesn't send me an email anymore.? I have to remember to check Q every day. thank you for any suggestions. -- 10/15/2010 Bill Fuller b...@theba

[Mailman-Users] Mailman Administrator sending a list from Hotmail

2010-06-04 Thread Robyn &amp; Bill Kemp
Bill Kemp Engadine, Australia -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable

[Mailman-Users] Taking a stab at Mailman on Mac OS X

2009-11-25 Thread Bill Catambay
Mailman v. 2.1.12 -> Mac OS 10.4.11 Tried to configure, and got the following results in config.log under Core Tests: configure:1714: checking for --with-python configure:1726: result: no configure:1733: checking for python configure:1751: found /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2

Re: [Mailman-Users] Revisit to moderator aliases

2009-11-23 Thread Bill Catambay
Okay, thanks for the info. I'll go stealth for awhile. :) At 4:38 PM -0800 on 11/23/09, Mark Sapiro wrote: Bill Catambay wrote: How about changing the text? The text is built from the masthead.txt template. A list specific version of this template can be installed (see the F

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