Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging STOP

2005-06-17 Thread Andy Heath
ective below is not a reason to try and harrass by continuing a pointless conversation. Stop. Enough is enough. andy > At 10:25 AM +0100 2005-06-15, Andy Heath wrote: > >> Its customary when you interact with a community to learn >> their language not expect them to learn yo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-15 Thread Andy Heath
John Dennis wrote: > On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 08:05 +0100, Andy Heath wrote: > >>A plea to Redhat - if you are going to purloin >>mailman and do it with FHS then a file that >>accompanies the mailman distribution that explains >>how to do a manual build that conforms

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-15 Thread Andy Heath
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>>>>>"Andy" == Andy Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Andy> A plea to Redhat - if you are going to purloin mailman and > Andy> do it with FHS then a file that accompanies the mailman > Andy>

[Mailman-Users] external archivers

2005-06-15 Thread Andy Heath
In 2.0.6 though there was a place to plug in archivers in mm_config.py it didn't work and I had to hack the code which left me in a development island unable to follow upgrades. What's the position in 2.1.5 ? I see the posts from another person on this and that there is a place to pipe posts to a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-15 Thread Andy Heath
I acknowledge Redhat do a good job with FHS and do interface with the community. >> Is there guidance in the standard mailman distributions >> on how to build for FC starting with a tar.gz ? > > > According to their particular filesystem structure? No. That is > something that RedHat wo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Red Hat FHS packaging

2005-06-14 Thread Andy Heath
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Andy Heath wrote: > >>If the mailman developer community adopts the FHS for >>mailman then that's a different story entirely and >>I would follow without complaint. > > > In fairness to John Dennis, he did raise these issues for

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-14 Thread Andy Heath
>>OFF-TOPIC below: >> >>Standards compliance (fedora) is one thing (I work in standards) >>but when everyone already has a fine standard (put it in the >>mailman user directory) and the community has no plans >>to change that then i find it very silly to just throw >>that away > > > The director

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-14 Thread Andy Heath
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Andy Heath wrote: > >>so how does "subject:.*[SPAM}.*" (admitredly meaning s or p etc) trigger >>the behaviour but "subject.*spam" not trigger it ? > > > Because on the second and subsequent passes through it is looking at

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-13 Thread Andy Heath
Mark, >> Since this subject matches .*[spam].*, the message to the owner is >> identified as spam and the whole thing goes again. > Not sure I understand you. It doesn't get as far as the usual > sendmail queues. How does the subject get parsed twice ? > > The solution is to not use regexps

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-13 Thread Andy Heath
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Andy Heath wrote: > >>they don't show as fails at all. What appears to happen is >>mailman keeps trying to send the mail and succeeding >>but it keeps doing it again and again. Meanwhile no >>mail leaves, it just sits in the spool dir

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-13 Thread Andy Heath
>>subject:.*[SPAM].* > > > The upper/lower case is immaterial as thes matches ale all > 'ignorecase', but you don't want the above regexp in any case since > [SPAM] is a character set so the regexp matches anything with an 's', > 'p', 'a' or 'm' in the subject. > > I don't know what would cause

[Mailman-Users] 2.1.5 fedora core 3 prevent mailbody problem

2005-06-13 Thread Andy Heath
Using 2.1.5 on fedora cors 3. Run an old mailman for years but just setting this one up afresh. Two probs - some regexes and preventing spams going to moderators while holding them back: 1. regex matching with some regex'es causes mailman to loop trying to send mail to the list-owner and failing