[Mailman-Users] Question about footers (again)

2008-10-23 Thread Allan Trick
won't miss the footer, I'd appreciate knowing (and will upgrade). Or if there are any other nifty ideas to get around this problem in 2.1.5, I'd appreciate knowing that as well! Thanks, Allan Trick Principia College Elsah, Illinois --

[Mailman-Users] Moderator on Gmail not receiving messages

2008-10-08 Thread Allan Trick
ages to the moderator" or somesuch, is there? Otherwise Mailman is performing normally. Can't figure this out! Thanks, Allan Trick -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail stuck in qfiles/in

2007-02-02 Thread Allan Trick
At 11:15 AM 2/2/2007, Mark Sapiro wrote: >Look at Mailman's error and qrunner logs from the time that the >lists stopped for clues as to why the other seven qrunners died (or >why they all died and only RetryRunner was restarted). There's nothing in the error log. But qrunner's might have a c

[Mailman-Users] Mail stuck in qfiles/in

2007-02-02 Thread Allan Trick
Our Mailman 2.1.5 system (on a Red Hat Linux server w/sendmail) hasn't been working all week. I just discovered it, and the first thing I did was ./mailmanctl restart --- It appears to have done what I told it: Feb 02 09:43:31 2007 (1541) Master watcher caught SIGINT. Restarting. Feb 02 09:43

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail stuck in qfiles/in

2007-02-02 Thread Allan Trick
I think I solved my own problem. Instead of just restarting qrunner, I did a stop and then a start. That did it. The clue was when I ran ps auxww | egrep 'p[y]thon' as FAQ 3.14 suggests, instead of there being eight processes there, there were only two. So I'm back in business. Any foll

[Mailman-Users] Dealing with bounce counts and bounced users

2006-11-16 Thread Allan Trick
Here's my question: how do I uncheck "nomail" for all those people that Mailman didn't think we could communicate with? Do I need to go in to each one and manually do it? Also, should I reset the bounce count for those folks? If so, how is that done? Thank you! Allan Trick

Re: [Mailman-Users] Two footers appearing in messages

2006-10-16 Thread Allan Trick
Mark Sapiro wrote: >So the "2007" list is an umbrella list. It should be so indicated on >its General Options page so that adinistrative messages such as >password reminders for its members get sent to, e.g., >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and not to the whole [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. Correct. It's an umbrel

[Mailman-Users] Two footers appearing in messages

2006-10-16 Thread Allan Trick
I've got some lists which go two deep, and two footers (saying how to unsubscribe, etc.). A group of parents (we're a school) are on different lists, depending on if their child is boarding in our dorms or if they are a day student. So we have a group of senior parents whose children are grad

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail going to list archives but not to list!

2006-10-15 Thread Allan Trick
At 05:19 PM 10/15/2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: >OutgoingRunner is missing. there are no 'caught SIGINT', 'exiting', >'[restarting]' or 'started' entries for it. > >What is in the qrunner log prior to this? Presumably there are entries >from last Wednesday indicating its 'restart limit' was reached. T

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail going to list archives but not to list!

2006-10-15 Thread Allan Trick
At 03:23 PM 10/15/2006, Mark Sapiro wrote: >Is OutgoingRunner running? If not, are there any messages in >Mailman's 'qrunner' log indicating why or when it stopped? I think so. See below. >Have you tried 'bin/mailmanctl restart'? Yes, to no avail. When I do that, this is what is logged in th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail going to list archives but not to list!

2006-10-15 Thread Allan Trick
Following on to what I read in the archives of a problem Elizabeth Schwartz was having, I'm having the same thing happen to me. The last message that made it to any of our lists went out last Wednesday. There are a bunch of .pck files in the qfiles/out directory, so I think there are messages

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail going to list archives but not to list!

2006-10-15 Thread Allan Trick
Following on to what I read in the archives of a problem Elizabeth Schwartz was having about a month ago, I'm having the same thing happen to me. The last message that made it to any of our lists went out last Wednesday. There are a bunch of .pck files in the qfiles/out directory, so I think t

[Mailman-Users] Umbrella lists within umbrella lists?

2006-08-30 Thread Allan Trick
I've got about 20 lists contained within a smaller number of umbrella lists which enables our users to message people on multiple lists by addressing a more compact single address. I have a new request to create an intermediate list now. This would require an umbrella address like we have now

Re: [Mailman-Users] Quicker way to subscribe someone?

2006-08-25 Thread Allan Trick
At 04:30 PM 8/25/2006, Dragon wrote: >You can do this easily from the web interface and not have to change >the setting for each individual user. > >On the Privacy Options->Sender Filters page there is a setting to >control if new members are moderated by default. You would want to >set this to

[Mailman-Users] Quicker way to subscribe someone?

2006-08-25 Thread Allan Trick
Sorry to post so many questions in the space of a week to this list. I work at a school and all the changes we make to our mailing lists tend to take place just once a year--now. So in a few days I'll probably go away and you won't hear from me again till next summer. :-) My question this ti

[Mailman-Users] Log entries refer to which list?

2006-08-25 Thread Allan Trick
I was trying to determine if a message was sent to the lists it should have been sent to, and see two different types of entries in my SMTP log: >Aug 24 16:23:57 2006 (18946) ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 41 >recips, completed in 8.864 seconds > >Aug 24 16:23:58 2006 (18946) ><[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages

2006-08-25 Thread Allan Trick
I'm just reporting back that in the scenario I was describing earlier in this thread, I've checked logs and it appears that Mailman did do what it was supposed to and deliver a message to all 20 of our lists. So the fact that any given user who is subscribed to all those lists only receives on

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why Not Upgrade to 2.1.8?

2006-08-25 Thread Allan Trick
At 09:18 AM 8/25/2006, Barry Finkel wrote: >I have seen many posts on this list from people who are running >2.1.5 (or earlier). I am wondering why someone would recently >upgrade to 2.1.5 instead of to 2.1.8, which is the current release? Barry, I know one reason we don't upgrade every time

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages

2006-08-24 Thread Allan Trick
At 05:53 PM 8/24/2006, Dan Phillips wrote: >That's what the nodupes setting is supposed to prevent. IIRC, you >said you cleared that flag? Actually, looks like the nodupes box is checked on most if not all of our user records. Each school year we dump and reimport all the addresses for all ou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages

2006-08-24 Thread Allan Trick
Getting more reports now of other internal users (we have people subscribed within our firewall on our Exchange mail server as well as people outside with all other kinds of email addresses) not getting all messages. In each case, it sounds like they get ONE message, whereas they're on between

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages

2006-08-24 Thread Allan Trick
At 03:20 PM 8/24/2006, Dan wrote: >1) There IS a setting to choose whether or not to receive one's own >posts on the users options page. On the administrative membership >management page it's the "not metoo" column. Check to see if that's checked. "not metoo" is not checked. However, "no dupes

[Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages

2006-08-24 Thread Allan Trick
Anyone have a clue as to why one of our people might not be receiving messages he is sending to lists to which he is subscribed? I've checked and see his address on the membership list for each list. The "mod" box is unchecked. (I'm also subscribed to these lists and received all the message

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender not receiving messages

2006-08-24 Thread Allan Trick
Forgot to mention -- I'm running Mailman 2.1.5. Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http:/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mystery with user_option URL

2004-08-29 Thread Allan Trick
At 11:17 AM 8/29/2004, Mark Sapiro wrote: See FAQ article 3.15 at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.015.htp I had set: VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes but missed: OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes After adding that to my mm_cfg.py and restarting qrunner, the opti

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mystery with user_option URL

2004-08-29 Thread Allan Trick
At 02:35 AM 8/29/2004, Jim Tittsler wrote: On Aug 29, 2004, at 13:45, Allan Trick wrote: I set up a new list just now and the footer appears this way on this new list: Changes to your subscription may be made by visiting %(user_optionsurl)s. If you are on more than one such Principia

[Mailman-Users] Mystery with user_option URL

2004-08-28 Thread Allan Trick
Help! I set some lists up a year ago and on most of them a note I append appears like this (it's entered into "msg_footer" on the Non-digest Options page): Changes to your subscription may be made by visiting http://www.prin.edu/mailman/options/2014/atrick%40prin.edu. If you are on more th

[Mailman-Users] Re: Notifications not coming thru

2004-01-16 Thread Allan Trick
Yesterday I wrote: admin_notify_mchanges is set to "yes" on our lists (MM 2.1.4), but admins aren't getting the email notifications. What might be preventing those messages from being received? For the record, I'll answer my own question! qrunner wasn't running... We used the rc script

[Mailman-Users] Notifications not coming thru

2004-01-15 Thread Allan Trick
admin_notify_mchanges is set to "yes" on our lists (MM 2.1.4), but admins aren't getting the email notifications. What might be preventing those messages from being received? Thanks, Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:

[Mailman-Users] Privacy options question

2004-01-14 Thread Allan Trick
I've got some users who are non-moderated members of lists that are part of an umbrella list. They can post to their own list, but when they try to post to the umbrella list, their message goes in the holding bin waiting approval. Since these people aren't technically members of the umbrella l

[Mailman-Users] Where to find features in new version?

2004-01-14 Thread Allan Trick
We just upgraded MM from 2.1.3 to 2.1.4. How can I find out what is different between those two versions? The CVS online doesn't list these versions, just alphas and betas... Thanks, Allan -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] htt

[Mailman-Users] Restoring corrupt system

2004-01-10 Thread Allan Trick
I need a little help. I've got an installation of Mailman (2.0.13) that we put up last October. Everything was running fine until a couple of days ago when our system admin ran some updates on the RH Linux server that hosts Mailman. The next morning Mailman was down and we determined that Py

[Mailman-Users] Administrator - always able to post?

2003-11-07 Thread Allan Trick
Hi, I assumed that if someone's an administrator, they'd be able to post to a list. However, if they're also a member of the list, and the "Mod" bit is checked, then their messages are moderated like everyone else's, and they must approve their own posts before they go out. (This is an announ

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems

2003-10-23 Thread Allan Trick
Someone emailed me to point out that this form of Sender: and Errors to: address is only used if you have personalization turned on. I couldn't live without personalization now that I have it on. Would removing the RFC 2369 headers make any difference to AOL? Allan

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL now bouncing ALL email from ALL mailman systems

2003-10-23 Thread Allan Trick
Is there anything we can do to remedy this in our own installations of Mailman? It'd be nice if AOL would fix it, but I don't think we can count on that. It's clearly not a situation any of us can live with. So what shall we do? Allan -- M

[Mailman-Users] Umbrella lists

2003-10-15 Thread Allan Trick
Hi, I've read in the mail archive about some problems people have had creating umbrella lists. So I wanted to just check and make sure I'm doing this the right way before I make a mess on my own server! I work at a school and I have a list of parents at each grade level for the teachers to us

[Mailman-Users] Code to view subscriber list on listinfo page

2003-10-14 Thread Allan Trick
My lists are configured so that only the list admin can view subscriber info on the listinfo page. But quite a few people have been calling asking what the admin password is so they can view the list (even though it says right there on the page in ITALICS that this is for the administrator onl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Not knowing what address is subscribed

2003-10-13 Thread Allan Trick
At 04:44 PM 10/13/2003, Skip wrote: This is kinda techno-nerdy which might not match your user population very well, but in many/most situations people should be able to look at the Received: headers (when the personalization footer is absent) and work their way from bottom to top to see what a

[Mailman-Users] Not knowing what address is subscribed

2003-10-13 Thread Allan Trick
We're getting some people wanting to check their address in Mailman to see how we subscribed them (we seeded lists with extracts from our main database), and they don't know what address we used for them. The only way I can think of is to have them type in one at a time and ask for a password t

[Mailman-Users] Mail not getting through to AOL

2003-10-13 Thread Allan Trick
Has anyone worked out problems with getting mail through to AOL users? I have some members of our lists that claim they are not getting our messages, but they're also not returning bounced to Mailman. So I'm not sure what to do. I suspect there are some kind of filtering options in AOL and t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating new lists from Web interface

2003-10-07 Thread Allan Trick
At 02:59 PM 10/7/2003, Jim Drash wrote: Something must be mis-configured somewhere. This is how I create all my lists. You might want to re-set the site password. Yeah, that worked! I changed the pw with mmsitepass, put it in the field at the bottom of the newlist form where it says, "List cr

[Mailman-Users] Creating new lists from Web interface

2003-10-07 Thread Allan Trick
I'm curious if anyone has had success creating a new list from the Web browser instead of ./newlist on the command line. I keep getting an error saying "Error: You are not authorized to create new mailing lists." But I'm using the site password. Maybe I missed a setting somewhere that says i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Site list missing??

2003-10-07 Thread Allan Trick
At 12:56 PM 10/7/2003, Paul Byerly wrote: the site list is required for Mailman to start - if it's missing or "lost" you must create or find it. The list is in /mailman/lists and is called mailman. If you don't have that, you need to create it. If it's there, then some alias or pointer is wr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Showing chunks of names

2003-10-06 Thread Allan Trick
While I haven't found a way to *display* chunks of names any more in the new Mailman, I thought I would post in response to my own question that if anyone else has the same question, the command sent back to the list-request address with "who" followed by the list password, returns a complete l

[Mailman-Users] Showing chunks of names

2003-10-06 Thread Allan Trick
In the FAQ, it says: 4.30. How do I configure the admin webpage to show more members per page? Change the setting in DEFAULT_ADMIN_MEMBER_CHUNKSIZE in mm_cfg.py The description is in Defaults.py. And mine is set for 30 (same as it was in 2.0.x). But it doesn't look like name are displayed in "

[Mailman-Users] Where are URL's stored?

2003-10-06 Thread Allan Trick
I've hunted all over and haven't found the spot. I need to fix the way the "send questions and comments" link on our main admin web page is displayed (it now says "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") and also in the emails the system generates, it's telling list owners and new subscribers things like: You c

[Mailman-Users] Mass subscriptions w/names

2003-10-05 Thread Allan Trick
Sorry to be bombarding this list with so many questions lately! I promise I'll pipe down pretty soon. :-) Now that I've got 2.1.3 installed, I have that empty name field on every record since it didn't exist in the previous version. My lists can all be reloaded, but I'm not sure what format t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error message on upgrade

2003-10-05 Thread Allan Trick
At 09:15 PM 10/5/2003, Todd wrote: > Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI > wrapper script to be executed as group "www", but > the system's web server executed the CGI script as > group "apache". Try tweaking the web server to run the > script as group "www", or re-run configure, > pr

[Mailman-Users] Error message on upgrade

2003-10-05 Thread Allan Trick
Anyone know what this means? Mailman CGI error!!! The Mailman CGI wrapper encountered a fatal error. This entry is being stored in your syslog: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the CGI wrapper script to be executed as group "www", but the system's web server executed the CGI script as gro

[Mailman-Users] Version of Python?

2003-10-04 Thread Allan Trick
The readme's for Mailman 2.1.3 say to use Python 2.2.1 (the latest version when this version of Mailman came out). But now there's a Python 2.3. Does anyone know if Mailman would have a problem with an even later version of Python than existed when 2.1.3 was put together? Or should I go with

Re: [Mailman-Users] Rebuilding message archive

2003-10-03 Thread Allan Trick
Shame on me. I didn't read the FAQ thoroughly enough: Q. I want to get rid of some messages in my archive. How do I do this? A. David Rocher posts the following recipe: # remove $prefix/archives/private/listname # edit $prefix/archives/private/listname.mbox/listname.mbox [optional] # run $prefix/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Customizing Mailman

2003-10-03 Thread Allan Trick
Ah. We're on 2.0.13! I think I read that 2.1.2 is the latest "stable" release. Has that now been upgraded to 2.1.3? We just started using Mailman. Is an upgrade from where I'm at to 2.1.x going to be pretty straightforward? Thx, Allan --

[Mailman-Users] Customizing Mailman

2003-10-03 Thread Allan Trick
tures to my installation. Do I need to write the code to do that myself or has someone described how to do this somewhere? Thanks for any help! Allan Trick -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/lis

[Mailman-Users] Rebuilding message archive

2003-10-03 Thread Allan Trick
I need to clean up a private archive, and followed the instructions someone posted in a previous thread here: edited the mbox file to remove the messages not wanted in the archive, deleted the html files in the /2003 directory, and then ran ./arch . It recreates the html files (except for the