Re: [Mailman-Users] New Problems with AOL & DMARC

2018-01-05 Thread Richard Damon
On 1/5/18 11:19 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 01/05/2018 08:09 PM, Richard Damon wrote: Sounds like its off to the host provider and see if they did something recently. I suspect some problem with the dnspython package. If you can run Python in a shell, you can try import dns.resolver If that wo

Re: [Mailman-Users] New Problems with AOL & DMARC

2018-01-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 01/05/2018 08:09 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > > Sounds like its off to the host provider and see if they did something > recently. I suspect some problem with the dnspython package. If you can run Python in a shell, you can try import dns.resolver If that works, then the issue is something el

Re: [Mailman-Users] New Problems with AOL & DMARC

2018-01-05 Thread Richard Damon
On 1/5/18 10:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 01/05/2018 07:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote: I use Mailman versioon 2.1.25 on a shared host, and in the past couple of days, something seems to have changed, as posts from AOL users are no longer getting their from address munged like they were a week ago,

Re: [Mailman-Users] New Problems with AOL & DMARC

2018-01-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 01/05/2018 07:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > I use Mailman versioon 2.1.25 on a shared host, and in the past couple > of days, something seems to have changed, as posts from AOL users are no > longer getting their from address munged like they were a week ago, and > I am getting massive bounces f

[Mailman-Users] New Problems with AOL & DMARC

2018-01-05 Thread Richard Damon
I use Mailman versioon 2.1.25 on a shared host, and in the past couple of days, something seems to have changed, as posts from AOL users are no longer getting their from address munged like they were a week ago, and I am getting massive bounces for DMARC rejection when a poster from AOL posts.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Privacy Filter Unusual Behavior

2018-01-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 01/05/2018 11:56 AM, Chris PUCHALSKI wrote: > Here is the entire end of the IncomingRunner.py file as it stands now: > > except Errors.HoldMessage: > # Let the approval process take it from here. The message no > # longer needs to be queued. >

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 01/05/2018 02:38 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > not what mailman does with the SMTPHost, and that is my point. It > should be documented clearer (or fixed?). I think MX record is documented fairly clearly on e.g. wikipedia. The rest of it spelled out in Defaults.py in my installation: - "delivery

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Ruben Safir
On 01/05/2018 03:32 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 01/05/2018 02:13 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > >> That is not a true statement. When you are looking for a MAIL host, it >> is logical to ask for it with an MX record. > Fine. Dig for an MX record for your defined SMTPHost and see what you get. not

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 01/05/2018 02:13 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > That is not a true statement. When you are looking for a MAIL host, it > is logical to ask for it with an MX record. Fine. Dig for an MX record for your defined SMTPHost and see what you get. -- Dimitri Maziuk Programmer/sysadmin BioMagResBank, UW-M

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Ruben Safir
On 01/05/2018 02:56 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > I think you are confused: I am not talking about what you get back, I am > talking about what you ask *for*. >I think you are confused: I am not talking about what you get back, I > am > talking about what you ask *for*. That is just not logical.

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 01/05/2018 01:34 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > On 01/05/2018 01:41 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: >> On 01/05/2018 11:49 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: >> >>> SMTPHost seems to do a non-mx record lookup for the value ... which is a >>> little strange. >> When you look up >> an MX, you can look up an MX for a *do

Re: [Mailman-Users] Privacy Filter Unusual Behavior

2018-01-05 Thread Chris PUCHALSKI
Here is the entire end of the IncomingRunner.py file as it stands now: except Errors.HoldMessage: # Let the approval process take it from here. The message no # longer needs to be queued. return 0 except Errors.RejectMessage,

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Ruben Safir
On 01/05/2018 01:41 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > On 01/05/2018 11:49 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > >> SMTPHost seems to do a non-mx record lookup for the value ... which is a >> little strange. > When you look up a *host*, you look for A/PTR or CNAME. No, all dns look ups are for hosts. Since this is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Privacy Filter Unusual Behavior

2018-01-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 01/05/2018 10:50 AM, Chris PUCHALSKI wrote: > > IncomingRunner.py (portion containing Errors.RejectMessage): > > except Errors.RejectMessage, e: > #mlist.BounceMessage(msg, msgdata, e) > #return 0 > # Log this. > syslo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Privacy Filter Unusual Behavior

2018-01-05 Thread Chris PUCHALSKI
Here is what I can gather, sorry if it looks like dirty in message body... GLOBAL_PIPELINE from Defaults.py (no mention in mm_cfg.py): GLOBAL_PIPELINE = [ # These are the modules that do tasks common to all delivery paths. 'SpamDetect', 'Approve', 'Replybot', 'Moderate', '

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 01/05/2018 11:49 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > SMTPHost seems to do a non-mx record lookup for the value ... which is a > little strange. When you look up a *host*, you look for A/PTR or CNAME. When you look up an MX, you can look up an MX for a *domain*, *or* you could look up an MX for a *host*.

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Ruben Safir
On 01/05/2018 12:17 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > But I don't see why it does this. It doesn't seem to be dns confusion > because that works correctly for the mx records. It seems to be > confusion restricted to mailman OK - I found the problem SMTPHost should be documented to need the FQDN of the h

Re: [Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Ruben Safir
On 01/05/2018 09:59 AM, Ruben Safir wrote: > I have a custom archive system that I have used for decades and I lost > the ability to send mail through the mailing list to its user account. > > Jan 05 01:13:13 2018 (3042) delivery to arch...@xxx.com failed the code > 550: 5.1.1 : Recipient address

[Mailman-Users] local recipient table

2018-01-05 Thread Ruben Safir
I have a custom archive system that I have used for decades and I lost the ability to send mail through the mailing list to its user account. Jan 05 01:13:13 2018 (3042) delivery to arch...@xxx.com failed the code 550: 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table I am