Re: [Mailman-Users] Which is most popular: OR ?

2016-02-14 Thread Tom Browder
On Sunday, February 14, 2016, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 02/14/2016 05:23 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > > In my old MM 2 lists I used the second form (without "lists") and I > > still want to use that form with MM 3. > > > > Are there any reasons why I shouldn't use the second form? ... > No. ... Tha

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users complain, they don't receive mails from the list

2016-02-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
This is somewhat redundant now, but the information is a little more precise than previoius replies. Sascha Rissel writes: > again I'm getting bounces for one specific provider: Germany's T-Online. [...] > : host mx03.t-online.de[194.25.134.73] refused to > talk to > me: 554 IP=62.138.1.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Which is most popular: OR ?

2016-02-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/14/2016 05:23 AM, Tom Browder wrote: > In my old MM 2 lists I used the second form (without "lists") and I > still want to use that form with MM 3. > > Are there any reasons why I shouldn't use the second form? No. > In my opinion, the second form may be easier for inexperienced mailing

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users complain, they don't receive mails from the list

2016-02-14 Thread Larry Turnbull
This is definitely a blacklist issue. When you see the message "the server refused to talk to me" it means that the ip address where the mailman messages are coming from is on their blacklist. To resolve this the host provider where the mailman list in question resides needs to contact the inter

[Mailman-Users] Which is most popular: OR ?

2016-02-14 Thread Tom Browder
In my old MM 2 lists I used the second form (without "lists") and I still want to use that form with MM 3. Are there any reasons why I shouldn't use the second form? In my opinion, the second form may be easier for inexperienced mailing list users, but, on the other hand, the first form makes it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users complain, they don't receive mails from the list

2016-02-14 Thread Richard Damon
Have you contacted the provider as mentioned in the bounce message, THEY need to look at the logs to see what is the problem. The fact that the diagnostic code header ends in (BL) makes me wonder if you are on some sort of Blocking List, but that is just a guess, The admin at t-online.de will

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users complain, they don't receive mails from the list

2016-02-14 Thread Sascha Rissel
Hi, again I'm getting bounces for one specific provider: Germany's T-Online. The bounce log itself doesn't show something worth mentioning, but here's the bounce message I'm receiving. Could you maybe have a look? Kind regards, Sascha. This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice: L