Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 10:19 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: > > Right. And it was wrong of RH not to tell me that up front, or if it > does, it didn't jump up and tell me. Sometimes there's just so much to > read and digest, and much of it has to be done after the fact. I'll > comb their docs and if it's not pre

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 10:32 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote: > > I've looked through the headers and it appears that my service provider > only runs spam assassin *AFTER* the message goes through mailman -- the > spam assassin headers come *after* all the mailman headers. I don't > know if I can fix/change t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrate 2.x -> 3.x

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 06:45 PM, JB via Mailman-Users wrote: > Is there an ETA on when a migration path from MM 2.x to 3.x will be ready or > is there even a plan in place to develop such an animal? The short answer is yes, there is a plan and it is one of the things we plan to include with Mailman 3.1,

[Mailman-Users] Migrate 2.x -> 3.x

2015-07-04 Thread JB via Mailman-Users
Is there an ETA on when a migration path from MM 2.x to 3.x will be ready or is there even a plan in place to develop such an animal? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users M

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-04 Thread Bernie Cosell
On 4 Jul 2015 at 8:22, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 07/03/2015 09:03 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote: > > I have a spam filter set to 'hold': > > > > X-Spam-Level:\s*\*\*\* > I would use > > ^X-Spam-Level:\s*\*\*\* > > but yours should match any with 3 or more stars, in particular the one > above. > > Is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:11:54 -0700, you wrote: >On 07/04/2015 08:27 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >> >> On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Sapiro >> wrote: >> >>> These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been >>> formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed in a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 08:54:44 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: >The RedHat/Centos package is even more complex. See the FAQ at >. Thanks. Noted and saved for future reference. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 08:27 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: > > On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Sapiro > wrote: > >> These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been >> formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed in a place >> like /etc/cron.d/mailman as a user contab som

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 08:23 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: > > Because that's the only one I knew of. Blame Red Hat for this one. :-) The RedHat/Centos package is even more complex. See the FAQ at . -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, C

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
This should have gone to the list instead of where it went. On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Shapiro wrote: >These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been >formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed in a place >like /etc/cron.d/mailman as a user contab s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:22:43 -0700, Mark wrote: >Mailman has two main configuration paths, $prefix for immutable code, >etc. and $var_prefix for mutable data. By default, $var_prefix = >$prefix, but in your case, you or the packager whose package you >installed configured mailman with $prefix=/usr

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/03/2015 09:03 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote: > I've looked through the FAQs and the archives and my spam filters *OUGHT* > to work. But it seems they're not and I don't know why. > > I have a spam filter set to 'hold': > > X-Spam-Level:\s*\*\*\* > > And a message with these headers just got bl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 06:36 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: > I guess things are getting better with my new mailman implementation, > as I received nine messages overnight I've never gotten before. four > are Errno 13 permission denied, five only contain one line: > > /bin/sh: mailman: command not found > > The

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/03/2015 03:59 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: > > Interesting: My $prefix is /usr/lib/mailman. However, there is a > /var/lib/mailman as that's where archives is. It's owned and grouped > properly, and it does have the 1-bit set in the 'other' portion of its > permissions mask. I can definitely fix

Re: [Mailman-Users] Learning to use withlist

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/03/2015 06:52 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: > > Oh boy. Not good. Here's what I'm after finding: I want to find > something I can use to look at a list's properties in order to > possibly determine what is wrong with my setup that's generating the > smtp-failure messages and generally inhibiting

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to access Mailman Web interface

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 06:50:58 -0700, you wrote: >$prefix/archives and the private/ and public/ sub-directories thereof >are created on installation, and if Mailman is running there must be a >'mailman' site list and thus $prefix/archives/private/mailman/ and >$prefix/archives/private/mailman.mbox/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Learning to use withlist

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 06:38:49 -0700, you wrote: >If you mean what can you do interactively after invoking withlist on a >list and have a '>>>' prompt, see > for the >Python part. For the Mailman specific stuff, You need to understand what

[Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-04 Thread Bernie Cosell
I've looked through the FAQs and the archives and my spam filters *OUGHT* to work. But it seems they're not and I don't know why. I have a spam filter set to 'hold': X-Spam-Level:\s*\*\*\* And a message with these headers just got blasted out to the list: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin

[Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
I guess things are getting better with my new mailman implementation, as I received nine messages overnight I've never gotten before. four are Errno 13 permission denied, five only contain one line: /bin/sh: mailman: command not found The subject fields of these five all begin with the same text