[Mailman-Users] traceback: TypeError: expected string or buffer

2015-04-22 Thread Fil
Apr 23 06:23:46 2015 (19383) SHUNTING: 1422957261.069973+11febcd5ef3a2e5ca1331e7ee7dddb0f11888759 Apr 23 06:23:46 2015 (19383) Uncaught runner exception: expected string or buffer Apr 23 06:23:46 2015 (19383) Traceback (most recent call last): File "/var/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", li

[Mailman-Users] DMARC documentation lacking

2015-04-22 Thread Fil
Hello, just upgraded from 2.1.16 to 2.1.20, because I was fed up with the DMARC issue. I googled a bit and found http://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC but it lacks info, especially: 1) how to add a default value in mm_cfg.py from the release notes I guess it's something like DEFAULT_DMARC_MODERATION_ACT

Re: [Mailman-Users] Somebody could not subscribe to pypy-...@python.org

2015-04-22 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Laura Creighton writes: > Maybe at the point where we mention 'you must have cookies enabled' > we should mention that load balancers can cause problems? I don't think nontechnical users will know what "load balancer" means. By now most users either know about cookies because they've disabled t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Somebody could not subscribe to pypy-...@python.org

2015-04-22 Thread Laura Creighton
Maybe at the point where we mention 'you must have cookies enabled' we should mention that load balancers can cause problems? (Thinking out loud here.) Laura X -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Somebody could not subscribe to pypy-...@python.org

2015-04-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/22/2015 08:59 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > > BINGO. He has found out that this is what happens at his (new) work > site. It's a load balancer. He is very grateful for getting this > figured out. :) I fear that this sort of load balancing is going to > become all the more common in the fut

Re: [Mailman-Users] Somebody could not subscribe to pypy-...@python.org

2015-04-22 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Laura Creighton writes: > become all the more common in the future. Is insisting that the IP > addresses match serving a useful purpose? Yes. Differing request origins is the characteristic signature of a CSRF attack.[1] I suppose the site could resolve the IP to a domain, but that would slo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Somebody could not subscribe to pypy-...@python.org

2015-04-22 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:52:33 -0700, Mark Sapiro writes: >It wouldn't be his machine. It would be something between his machine >and mail.python.org. Perhaps some kind of load balancer or other >device which submits each separate http request from one of a pool of >IP addresses. Thus, t

[Mailman-Users] Bounces being detected as spam/virus sending rate

2015-04-22 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Steven D'Aprano writes: > Can you suggest anything I can do to avoid triggering the ISP's > system? Start by removing all yahoo.com and aol.com addresses! ;-) The timing is wrong, and knowing you I suppose you probably already have a mitigation in place, but to cover all bases: it's possibl

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounces being detected as spam/virus sending rate

2015-04-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/22/2015 07:28 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > I receive unhandled bounce notifications (no more than a handful of > those, which I then manually remove) and see notifications of addresses > that are removed for excessive bouncing, again no more than a handful at > a time. How can I see

[Mailman-Users] Bounces being detected as spam/virus sending rate

2015-04-22 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Hi, I run a mailing list of about 1-2 thousand subscribers for announcements only. My ISP has started sending me automated messages claiming that there is a high spam/virus sending rate from my IP address. It took me a long time to get a straight answer from them, but eventually they told me t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Initiation problems

2015-04-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/22/2015 03:52 PM, Dr. Mikeal Hughes wrote: > Well I have been trying to get mailman to go on this Ubuntu 14.04 Server > install now for 3 days. I am down to this problem. Any time I type in > http://biblematters.net/cgi-bin/mailman/admin > I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error message on my Mailman Install.

2015-04-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/22/2015 03:51 PM, Dr. Mikeal Hughes wrote: > Now getting this error message. - AH01276: Cannot serve directory > /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/: No matching DirectoryIndex > (index.html,index.cgi,index.pl,index.php,index.xhtml,index.htm) found, and > server-generated directory index forbidden b

[Mailman-Users] Mailman Initiation problems

2015-04-22 Thread Dr. Mikeal Hughes
Well I have been trying to get mailman to go on this Ubuntu 14.04 Server install now for 3 days. I am down to this problem. Any time I type in http://biblematters.net/cgi-bin/mailman/admin I get. A 403 error that says. Forbidden You don't have pe

[Mailman-Users] Error message on my Mailman Install.

2015-04-22 Thread Dr. Mikeal Hughes
Now getting this error message. - AH01276: Cannot serve directory /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/: No matching DirectoryIndex (index.html,index.cgi,index.pl,index.php,index.xhtml,index.htm) found, and server-generated directory index forbidden by Options directive -

[Mailman-Users] Looking for help

2015-04-22 Thread Dr. Mikeal Hughes
I have tried to install Mailman on my Ubuntu 14.04 Server. It also has a Website virtually hosted on the server as well. I can’t get it to go and am getting some error messages. There are a lot of user install guides on the internet for this and apparently I tried using the wrong one. Could some

Re: [Mailman-Users] Somebody could not subscribe to pypy-...@python.org

2015-04-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/22/15 3:11 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Wed, 22 Apr 2015 14:34:00 -0700, Mark Sapiro > writes: >> >> It is conceivable that some browser could corrupt the >> sub_form_token value upon submission if and only if the password >> fields are empty, but as I say, it's a stretch. >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Somebody could not subscribe to pypy-...@python.org

2015-04-22 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 22 Apr 2015 14:34:00 -0700, Mark Sapiro writes: >It is a stretch, but the HTML for the form tag and it's input tags look >something like > > name="sub_form_token" >value="1429735034:cebafdd44a345e440de23b4ba49d63b71439258a"> > > > > > > No > Yes > > > >It is c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Somebody could not subscribe to pypy-...@python.org

2015-04-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/22/2015 01:34 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > > He says he got the form from https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev > > So what can corrupt the token, I wonder. How chrome stores tokens > and what things -- like an add blocker -- could modify or remove > it isn't one of the things

Re: [Mailman-Users] Somebody could not subscribe to pypy-...@python.org

2015-04-22 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:07:13 -0700, Mark Sapiro writes: >The message your user got, "You must GET the form before submitting >it.", indicates the hidden 'sub_form_token' either was not present in >the submitted form or was not of the correct format. This could indicate >that there is a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Somebody could not subscribe to pypy-...@python.org

2015-04-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/21/2015 09:53 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Tue, 21 Apr 2015 16:31:46 -0700, Mark Sapiro writes: >> On 04/21/2015 03:55 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: >>> Forwarded message here. He just tried to subscribe as ben.jol...@xad.com >>> but apparantly can only subscribe if he leaves th

[Mailman-Users] kernel update

2015-04-22 Thread Nicoli Stupinski
I have a system running CentOS v6.2 that I want to do a kernel update on to fix an issue. If I do a "yum update kernel" it will install the kernel that used with CentOS v6.6. I know, I know, I should update all of the packages and go to v6.6 but I can't do just that at this time. Will running th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron command?

2015-04-22 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Adam McGreggor writes: > I think that will help drive community contributions, immensely. It's > one barrier removed. "Immensely"? I'm not terribly optimistic. I personally want to use git, but moving to git has not appreciably changed the equation for Emacs (which also made the move from Baz

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron command?

2015-04-22 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:16:48AM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 04/21/2015 09:42 AM, Adam McGreggor wrote: > > This makes me wonder if it might be useful to have two files in the > > Mailman source: > > > > mailman/cron/crontab.in-system > > mailman/cron/crontab.in-user > > > > with -sy