Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-02 Thread David Benfell
Quoting Tanstaafl : On 4/2/2015 1:45 PM, J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote: I also think we should stop offering mailing list digests, particularly because I don't see a need for them now that bandwidth to most Internet users is plentiful (plentiful enough to see widespread use of HTML email, for ins

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-02 Thread David Benfell
Quoting Tanstaafl : But whatever, I stopped caring much a long, long time ago when I realized top-posters will never get it simply because they don't want to. Yes, it's a hopeless battle. The consensus on most technical lists I've seen is very strongly in favor of bottom posting, with top-p

Re: [Mailman-Users] N00b with a CGI error

2015-04-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/02/2015 02:08 PM, brads wrote: > The message was garbled because the output was garbled So something was REALLY broken. > I was able to get past that issue by loading the cgi modules in the php.ini. > A slight oversight. > > But I have encountered a new issue that is baffling me. > I can

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 02 Apr 2015 15:19:56 -0500, Mike Starr writes: >I'll leave the discussion now... I've seen these top-post/bottom-post >flame wars in the past. It's just like the toilet paper top/bottom >argument. There is no *right way* to do it. It's all a matter of >preference with good a

Re: [Mailman-Users] N00b with a CGI error

2015-04-02 Thread brads
The message was garbled because the output was garbled I was able to get past that issue by loading the cgi modules in the php.ini. A slight oversight. But I have encountered a new issue that is baffling me. I can get to the 'create list page' (lacking authorization granted) http://i.imgur.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-02 Thread Mike Starr
That's what it seemed to me that J.B. was expressing... that the entire message thread would be repeated in each response. However, "blindly quoting the entire message" is the default with many email tools (other than the few that scrub everything but the text immediately below the respondee's

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 4/2/2015 2:18 PM, Mike Starr wrote: > I'm a top-poster and not ashamed of it. If I'm following a message > thread, I remember the discussion and don't want to have to scroll > through a weeks worth of responses just to get to the new content. This would only happen if you blindly quoted the

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-02 Thread Tanstaafl
Please don't send direct to me, I'm on the list. On 4/2/2015 3:13 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote: > I’d like it if digests could be either the full text of the emails or > just a list of subject lines. ? Whats wrong with both? Every digest I've ever subscribed to has the list of email subjects at the t

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-02 Thread Mike Starr
A couple points on top-posting... I'm a top-poster and not ashamed of it. If I'm following a message thread, I remember the discussion and don't want to have to scroll through a weeks worth of responses just to get to the new content. Some email clients strip all but the first message below t

[Mailman-Users] What would your dream Mailman web interface look like?

2015-04-02 Thread Andrew Stuart
What’s on your wishlist for the perfect Mailman web interface? If you can provide links to show where your ideas are done well that would help to illustrate your thoughts. Any killer features that you’d like to see in the perfect Mailman web interface? as -

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/02/2015 12:13 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote: > I’d like it if digests could be either the full text of the emails or just a > list of subject lines. Mailman digests have a table of contents with just Subject: and From: name. On some lists, where I'm only interested in very few topics, I subscri

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-02 Thread Andrew Stuart
I’d like it if digests could be either the full text of the emails or just a list of subject lines. I don’t want to scroll through the full text of every message in the digest. On 3 Apr 2015, at 6:06 am, Tanstaafl wrote: On 4/2/2015 1:45 PM, J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote: > I also think we shou

Re: [Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 4/2/2015 1:45 PM, J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote: > I also think we should stop offering mailing list digests, particularly > because I don't see a need for them now that bandwidth to most Internet > users is plentiful (plentiful enough to see widespread use of HTML > email, for instance) and so

Re: [Mailman-Users] N00b with a CGI error

2015-04-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/01/2015 11:19 PM, brads wrote: > I am on FreeBSD and I installed mailman from ports following this guide -> > http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=18 > > On first attempt to connect to the GUI, I get -> > > > > ßèEûÿÿUH‰åAVSHƒì H‰ÓÇ0 H‹= H‹5 è•üÿÿWÀ)EÐH‹ï H‰EàHUпŒ@¾ Much of you

[Mailman-Users] I'd prefer clients had collapsing features, not top-post; do away with mailing list digests

2015-04-02 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens
Richard Damon wrote: Another reason that I have been told by some people that they want people to top post is that their client will show in the message list a summary of the first line of the message, and they want that to be the new content to see if it is worth reading, Tanstaafl replied:

[Mailman-Users] N00b with a CGI error

2015-04-02 Thread brads
I am on FreeBSD and I installed mailman from ports following this guide -> http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=18 On first attempt to connect to the GUI, I get -> ßèEûÿÿUH‰åAVSHƒì H‰ÓÇ0 H‹= H‹5 è•üÿÿWÀ)EÐH‹ï H‰EàHUпŒ@¾ _ H‰Ùè]ýÿÿ‰ÃL‹5Ä èû÷ÿÿ‹8è„÷ÿÿH‰Áº @1ÀL‰÷‰ÞèÄúÿÿ‰ØHƒÄ [

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

2015-04-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/19/2015 9:15 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > Another reason that I have been told by some people that they want > people to top post is that their client will show in the message list a > summary of the first line of the message, and they want that to be the > new content to see if it is worth

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail transport postfix with dovecot and virtual domains

2015-04-02 Thread Roland Miyamoto
Thanks, Mark, You are amazing! On 02/04/15 02:15, Mark Sapiro wrote: > alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases Oh dummy me! And I always wondered how the virtual mail can get forwarded from local to mailman. You have explained everything in one line. However, with PO