Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

Richard Damon writes: > Thunderbird isn't quite like that, but when I reply to a message from > the list I am given 3 options: > > Reply > Reply All > Reply to List > > The Reply to List option is made available by the List-Post header I > believe. I don't understand why they do it t

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

Lindsay Haisley writes: > I never quite understood all the fuss about top posting. Usenet over UUCP via 300 baud modems on backbone servers with 5MB disks.[1] > The reason behind quoting in the first place is to provide context > for a reply, but some MUAs make it very difficult to not top po

[Mailman-Users] CC pruning: does it work?

Mark Sapiro writes: > There is one case with Mailman lists where [to vs. cc] matters, at > least in MM 2.1, but I think MM 3 too. > > If a list member has 'avoid dups' set and that member is a Cc: addressee > of a post, that member will not receive the post from the list AND that > member's

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

jdd writes: > Le 20/03/2015 01:45, Mark Sapiro a écrit : > > > This is a major hot-button issue for me, The above is only scratching > > the surface. > > > smartphones makes things horrible, on android, selecting text for > deletion is nearly impossible :-(( This is true. On many lists I

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On 3/20/15 9:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 3/19/2015 6:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: In many mail user agents, when you press the "Reply" button the program will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came from a list and offer a "Reply to List" option in addition to a simpl

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 14:37 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Only superficially. The point is that both of these MUAs are > list-aware > > and offer options appropriately. > > No, the point is you apparently can't simply acknowledge that you > mis-spoke/made a mistake. Tanstaafl, it it will make you

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On 3/20/2015 11:09 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 10:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: >> You said "In many mail user agents, when you press the "Reply" button >> the program will analyze the headers, determine that the post being >> replied to came from a list and offer a "Reply to L

Re: [Mailman-Users] duplicates

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/20/2015 05:12 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 03/20/2015 08:42 AM, Marco Stoecker wrote: > >> >> Mar 18 22:16:43 hostname postfix/smtpd[9815]: 6D42445B: >> client=localhost[::1] Mar 18 22:16:43 hostname >> postfix/cleanup[9818]: 6D42445B: >> mess

Re: [Mailman-Users] reject notice to non-member

On 03/20/2015 07:55 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote: > > Probably it would be better to add feature request to add filed for > custom rejecting reason > on Admindb page than consider this as a bug?... If you go to the detail of a message in the admindb interface (click the [n] link or the 'view all mess

Re: [Mailman-Users] duplicates

On 03/20/2015 08:42 AM, Marco Stoecker wrote: > >> What are the rest of the postfix log messages from 'grep 6D42445B' >> and 'grep 4ACCAD07' of the log file? > > and here it comes... > > for grep 6D42445B: > > Mar 18 22:16:43 hostname postfix/smtpd[9815]: 6D42445B: > client=localhost[::1] > Ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] duplicates

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > It is somewhere between your mail client and Postfix on the > Mailman server. It's not Mailman. Are you certain you didn't just > send the message twice? I'm very sure because in the outbox it appears only ones. And I copied the headers again, just

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 10:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > Ummm... this is not what you said initially. > > You said "In many mail user agents, when you press the "Reply" button > the program will analyze the headers, determine that the post being > replied to came from a list and offer a "Reply to Lis

Re: [Mailman-Users] duplicates

On 03/20/2015 07:32 AM, Marco Stoecker wrote: > On 03/19/2015 11:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> Yes, but if the post was sent twice to each list, the Received: >> headers of the two posts you received must differ in detail. > > I copied the "View->Message Source" information in two text files and >

Re: [Mailman-Users] reject notice to non-member

2015-03-20 16:46 GMT+02:00 Mark Sapiro : > You can consider that it's a bug if you wish and report it at > , but it is the intentional > behavior. Okay I see Mark. But there is no any other way to include reason of rejecting to notice. Probably it woul

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On 3/20/2015 10:27 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > My MUA of choice is Evolution, formerly from Ximian but now a gnome GPL > project. It has this feature, as does Thunderbird, which is fairly > popular. I was under the impression that Outlook and/or Outlook Express > had it too, but I'm not sure ab

Re: [Mailman-Users] reject notice to non-member

On 03/20/2015 07:08 AM, Danil Smirnov wrote: > > I've set > generic_nonmember_action to Hold > and > nonmember_rejection_notice to my reject notice. > > But when I reject message from admindb page, > I get general message with not mine but standard reason: ... > Is this a bug? You can consider

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

> On Mar 20, 2015, at 03:23 AM, Peter Shute wrote: > > If you're referring to the problem of getting the selection boundaries in > exactly the right spot, I'm well familiar with that. So easy to get them > within one or two characters, but requires excessive concentration and effort > to get

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Prefixing

Thanks, Richard and Mark, for responses. Richard wrote: I suspect that it isn't that the list added the name after the >Re:, but that the MUA left it there and added the Re: first, >and the list saw that the tag was already in the message and >left it there. This keeps the subject tidy. **I

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 10:07 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > I'm sure I'm proudly in the minority, but I use Claws Mail almost > > exclusively > > and it has very good reply-to-list support. > > Sounds like Thunderbird's 'Smart Reply' button, which I really like, but > don't use much because I can't p

Re: [Mailman-Users] duplicates

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/2015 11:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Yes, but if the post was sent twice to each list, the Received: > headers of the two posts you received must differ in detail. I copied the "View->Message Source" information in two text files and compared

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 09:52 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > In many mail user agents, when you press the "Reply" button the program > > will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came > > from a list and offer a "Reply to List" option in addition to a simple > > reply, which gen

[Mailman-Users] reject notice to non-member

Hello! I've set generic_nonmember_action to Hold and nonmember_rejection_notice to my reject notice. But when I reject message from admindb page, I get general message with not mine but standard reason: --- The moderator gave the following reason for rejecting your request: "Your message was de

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On 3/20/2015 10:03 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 03/20/2015 06:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 3/19/2015 6:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: >>> In many mail user agents, when you press the "Reply" button the program >>> will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came >>> from a l

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On 3/20/2015 9:58 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Mar 20, 2015, at 09:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> I'd really like to know which email user agents really do this. >> >> In my experience, none of the ones used by 99+% of the worlds population >> actually use do this. > > I'm sure I'm proudly in the

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On 03/20/2015 06:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 3/19/2015 6:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: >> In many mail user agents, when you press the "Reply" button the program >> will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came >> from a list and offer a "Reply to List" option in additio

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On Mar 20, 2015, at 09:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: >I'd really like to know which email user agents really do this. > >In my experience, none of the ones used by 99+% of the worlds population >actually use do this. I'm sure I'm proudly in the minority, but I use Claws Mail almost exclusively and it h

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

Sent from the Dehut/Haisley iPad email > On Mar 20, 2015, at 12:29 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Lindsay Haisley writes: > >> As far as editing, top posting, bottom posting, etc. it's just a matter >> of using good sense. > > This list strongly prefers interlinear posting (posting > be

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On 3/19/2015 6:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > In many mail user agents, when you press the "Reply" button the program > will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came > from a list and offer a "Reply to List" option in addition to a simple > reply, which generally goes pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On 3/20/2015 1:29 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > I don't know of anybody who prefers "bottom-posting" (and it's a bad > idea to use that term as I've seen newbies instructed to "bottom-post" > do exactly that, leaving 50 lines of original text and adding two > lines at the bottom). And I've see

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Prefixing - was: The "right" way to reply to a mailing list / Re:

On 03/20/2015 05:27 AM, A.K. Eyma wrote: > While in the topic of replying, why does mailman put the > "Re:" before the [listname]? Or rather inserts the list > name after the Re: ? (For you send it out as "Re: The right way") > >> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list / Re:

On 3/20/15 8:27 AM, A.K. Eyma wrote: Having all mail of a list come in with [listname] first in each subject line is more tidy. In that way you would differentiate at one glance in your inbox between Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way for responses that have been sent offlist to you and [Mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list / Re:

While in the topic of replying, why does mailman put the "Re:" before the [listname]? Or rather inserts the list name after the Re: ? (For you send it out as "Re: The right way") Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list It likely is my odd taste, and perh

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On 03/19/2015 10:39 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Andrew Stuart writes: > > > and does it matter what other addresses go into to and cc fields. > > It doesn't matter for mechanical purposes. To, CC, and BCC are all > routed the same way (using RCPT TO aka "envelope recipient" at the > SMTP l

Re: [Mailman-Users] Duplicate message

On 03/20/2015 02:59 AM, len ward wrote: > Hi > Every time I send a message, or anyone for that matter, a duplicate message > is received. The avoid duplicate button is off. Can you help please? If avoid duplicates is Off, you will receive duplicates if you are a direct recipient of the message.

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015, Andrew Stuart wrote: When I reply to a message on a mailing list, what is the ???right??? way to do it? Not sure if there is a right way for everybody. Definitely there is a way I like it to happen and ways which I find extremely annoying. Should I be deleting previous

[Mailman-Users] Duplicate message

Hi Every time I send a message, or anyone for that matter, a duplicate message is received. The avoid duplicate button is off. Can you help please? Regards Len -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

> On 20 Mar 2015, at 6:20 pm, jdd wrote: > > Le 20/03/2015 08:16, Peter Shute a écrit : > >> Getting off the subject, do you mean selecting quoted text, or any >> text? I've never used an Android device, and I assumed that this kind >> of basic task would be easier than on an iPhone. Perhaps not

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

Le 20/03/2015 08:16, Peter Shute a écrit : Getting off the subject, do you mean selecting quoted text, or any text? I've never used an Android device, and I assumed that this kind of basic task would be easier than on an iPhone. Perhaps not. selecting old text to trim it. May be I have too lar

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

> On 20 Mar 2015, at 6:05 pm, jdd wrote: > > Le 20/03/2015 01:45, Mark Sapiro a écrit : > >> This is a major hot-button issue for me, The above is only scratching >> the surface. > smartphones makes things horrible, on android, selecting text for > deletion is nearly impossible :-(( Getting of

Re: [Mailman-Users] The "right" way to reply to a mailing list

Le 20/03/2015 01:45, Mark Sapiro a écrit : This is a major hot-button issue for me, The above is only scratching the surface. smartphones makes things horrible, on android, selecting text for deletion is nearly impossible :-(( jdd -- Mailma