Re: [Mailman-Users] Jump from Python 2.4 to 2.7...

Laura Creighton writes: > Apologies, apologies ... > (from somebody who only learned that about CentOS only _after_ she thought > thatinstalling a more modern Python system-wide would be in everybody's > interest) Yes, indeed. "Don't touch /usr/bin/python" is an ancient Red Hat and Centos b

Re: [Mailman-Users] Jump from Python 2.4 to 2.7...

Aha, I now see that you know not to replace your system Python. Sorry for the note in haste, but if you were about to do such a thing I needed to tell you NO! DON'T DO THAT! in a hurry. Apologies, apologies ... (from somebody who only learned that about CentOS only _after_ she thought thatinstal

Re: [Mailman-Users] Jump from Python 2.4 to 2.7...

On 03/02/2015 01:56 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > > I have been away. I get to this discussion late, and so sorry if > this has been mentioned, but > > YOU ABSOLUTELY MUST NOT CHANGE YOUR CENTOS SYSTEM PYTHON 2.4.3 OR YOU > WILL BREAK YOUR WHOLE PACKAGING SYSTEM! Quite true. I found this out th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Jump from Python 2.4 to 2.7...

In a message of Mon, 02 Mar 2015 15:15:01 -0500, bill.co...@unh.edu writes: >Mark Sapiro recently posted, in part... > >> Are you installing Mailman 2.1.19 on the Red Hat system or >> using whatever Red Hat rpm package that's available, and if the >> latter, what is that? And, what Mailman will yo

Re: [Mailman-Users] ListProc to Mailman migration -- any tools or guides?

On 3/2/2015 12:44 PM, bill.co...@unh.edu wrote: Chris Nulk recently wrote, in part... Remember that communications with the list owners is extremely important. Indeed! [snip] We did change how we populated several of our lists though which was a bit of a challange (we went from populati

Re: [Mailman-Users] ListProc to Mailman migration -- any tools or guides?

Mark Sapiro recently posted, in part... I know nothing of the internals of ListProc, so I can't help directly, No problem there -- ListProc I know, warts and all. but there are a couple of Majordomo to Mailman conversion scripts (written in perl) in Mailman's contrib directory

Re: [Mailman-Users] ListProc to Mailman migration -- any tools or guides?

Chris Nulk recently wrote, in part... Remember that communications with the list owners is extremely important. Indeed! What we did was: 0. Have a firm timeframe to complete the change over. Haven't picked the date yet -- nor have I told the users what is coming yet until I get Mailman i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Jump from Python 2.4 to 2.7...

Mark Sapiro recently posted, in part... Are you installing Mailman 2.1.19 on the Red Hat system or using whatever Red Hat rpm package that's available, and if the latter, what is that? And, what Mailman will you be using on the RHEL 7 system? Well my original plan was to install the latest an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Jump from Python 2.4 to 2.7...

On 3/2/2015 9:53 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 03/02/2015 08:22 AM, bill.co...@unh.edu wrote: My question is, are there any quirks or gotchas that I should be aware of in going from the old RHEL/Python platform to the new one? Is there anything I can do on the old system now that will make migratio

Re: [Mailman-Users] ListProc to Mailman migration -- any tools or guides?

A few years ago, we switched from ListProc to Mailman. We didn't have as extensive a set of lists as do you however. Remember that communications with the list owners is extremely important. What we did was: 0. Have a firm timeframe to complete the change over. 1. Try to weed out as many lists

Re: [Mailman-Users] Jump from Python 2.4 to 2.7...

On 03/02/2015 08:22 AM, bill.co...@unh.edu wrote: > > My question is, are there any quirks or gotchas that I should be > aware of in going from the old RHEL/Python platform to the new > one? Is there anything I can do on the old system now that will > make migration to the new platform easier? F

Re: [Mailman-Users] ListProc to Mailman migration -- any tools or guides?

On 03/02/2015 07:24 AM, bill.co...@unh.edu wrote: > I'm going to be migrating about 400 lists with 25K subscribers > from ListProc to Mailman. I'm looking for whatever tools I can > find to aid in the conversion process. Of particular concern is > the creation of the replacement list in Mailman w

Re: [Mailman-Users] List member seen as non-member by Mailman?

On 3/2/2015 3:43 AM, Ulf Dunkel wrote: On one of the lists, I frequently get admin messages to accept messages to the list, sent by non-members. But when I check them, their email addresses are definitely in the list. I've seen similar- check both the sender and envelope addresses in the origi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Jump from Python 2.4 to 2.7...

I'm going to be doing a new Mailman installation on a Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) system 5.11 with Python 2.4.3. The goal is to convert existing ListProc mailing lists to Mailman without having to change the addresses for the lists. I've done a similar conversion in the past many years ago

Re: [Mailman-Users] List member seen as non-member by Mailman?

On 03/02/2015 03:43 AM, Ulf Dunkel wrote: > > On one of the lists, I frequently get admin messages to accept messages > to the list, sent by non-members. But when I check them, their email > addresses are definitely in the list. I'd like a bit more information. When you go to the admindb summar

[Mailman-Users] ListProc to Mailman migration -- any tools or guides?

I'm going to be migrating about 400 lists with 25K subscribers from ListProc to Mailman. I'm looking for whatever tools I can find to aid in the conversion process. Of particular concern is the creation of the replacement list in Mailman with a reasonable mapping of the ListProc settings into eq

[Mailman-Users] Jump from Python 2.4 to 2.7...

I'm going to be doing a new Mailman installation on a Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) system 5.11 with Python 2.4.3. The goal is to convert existing ListProc mailing lists to Mailman without having to change the addresses for the lists. I've done a similar conversion in the past many years ago a

[Mailman-Users] List member seen as non-member by Mailman?

I am running Mailman 2.1.16 on an up-to-date Ubuntu Linux machine. On one of the lists, I frequently get admin messages to accept messages to the list, sent by non-members. But when I check them, their email addresses are definitely in the list. None of the members are set to be moderated, nor do