[Mailman-Users] Munging and iOS Mail display of senders' display names

2014-08-18 Thread Peter Shute
We've recently enabled munging with 2.1.18-1. I think it's already been documented that this causes problems for iOS Mail users where they can no longer see who originally sent the messages. I've discovered that there's a bit more to it than that, at least in iOS 7.1.2, so I'm posting this in ca

Re: [Mailman-Users] Munging and Reply All behaviour with Outlook

2014-08-18 Thread Peter Shute
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > If we set from_is_list to No, how does the list behave > when > yahoo.com emails arrive? > > That depends on the setting of dmarc_moderation_action. If > it is set to Accept, it just passes them through, and lets > the destination decide what to do. Almost ce

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redacted Email Address in Feedback Loop

2014-08-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Will Yardley writes: > I think munging the headers is a sensible practice, as it makes it > a little harder to listwash; the main idea of the FBL as I understand it > is to give you an idea when there's some kind of gross abuse, That's what they say, but in many cases that's not what they do.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redacted Email Address in Feedback Loop

2014-08-18 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 18:22 +, John Levine wrote: > >I think munging the headers is a sensible practice, as it makes it > >a little harder to listwash; the main idea of the FBL as I understand it > >is to give you an idea when there's some kind of gross abuse, not that > >you are required to un

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redacted Email Address in Feedback Loop

2014-08-18 Thread John Levine
>I think munging the headers is a sensible practice, as it makes it >a little harder to listwash; the main idea of the FBL as I understand it >is to give you an idea when there's some kind of gross abuse, not that >you are required to unsubscribe anyone who complains about your mail. Munging FBLs

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redacted Email Address in Feedback Loop

2014-08-18 Thread Will Yardley
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 04:55:52PM -0700, Peter Knowles wrote: > What is the best way to deal with feedback loop messages where the provider > has redacted the email address of the party who filed the complaint? I haven't looked at a FBL message for a while, but most of the ones I've seen didn't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redacted Email Address in Feedback Loop

2014-08-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Lindsay Haisley writes: > If you grok MM internals a bit and understand withlist and python, and > don't mind importing the Python Crypto library I can send you the > information on this hack, but I'd rather turn it over to the MM people > for some sort of public posting so everyone can have a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Redacted Email Address in Feedback Loop

2014-08-18 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 12:33 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Peter Knowles writes: > > > What is the best way to deal with feedback loop messages where the > > provider has redacted the email address of the party who filed the > > complaint? > > What do you want to do with this information?