Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/21/2014 06:50 PM, Peter Shute wrote: > > That was my impression too. It sounds less disruptive, but I wonder if the > resulting variability of behaviour of Reply and Reply all would just cause > confusion. In 2.1.18-1, with minor exceptions, 'reply' and 'reply all' do the same things on

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving Archive Lists

2014-07-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/21/2014 08:43 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > How old was the old Mailman? AFAIK old configs should automatically > be upgraded if necessary when you upgrade Mailman, unless they're very > very old (< 2.1.9 at a guess). Way older than that. Even config.db files from Mailman 2.0.x will

Re: [Mailman-Users] Senders' email addresses not in archives

2014-07-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/21/2014 09:14 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Conrad G T Yoder writes: > > > [Using 2.1.17] > > > > Is there a way to have their email addresses get into the archives > > and still have the Mung From option turned on? > > It looks to me (version 2.1.18, though) like the from corruptio

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-21 Thread Peter Shute
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > That was my impression too. It sounds less disruptive, but > I wonder > if the resulting variability of behaviour of > Reply and Reply all > would just cause confusion. > > But you're right, people do report the difference. So it It's the people who don't not

[Mailman-Users] Senders' email addresses not in archives

2014-07-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Conrad G T Yoder writes: > [Using 2.1.17] > > Is there a way to have their email addresses get into the archives > and still have the Mung From option turned on? It looks to me (version 2.1.18, though) like the from corruption is performed in the CookHeaders Handler. Perhaps you can move th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Peter Shute writes: > That was my impression too. It sounds less disruptive, but I wonder > if the resulting variability of behaviour of Reply and Reply all > would just cause confusion. Well, I can get away with a policy of "Friends don't let friends use Yahoo!" and be ornery about it, so tak

[Mailman-Users] Moving Archive Lists

2014-07-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Don: > I’m attempting to bring it up on a new box with a yum-supplied copy > of mailman rather than the old-fashioned hand install. Some systems put the configs and so on in a different place from the "standard" mailman install. I infer that you have the right place, but please confirm. On my

[Mailman-Users] Yahoo webmail stripping out headers in digests

2014-07-21 Thread Conrad G T Yoder
Another episode in the “Just Noticed” saga: In Yahoo’s webmail, they are stripping out the headers of each email in the digests, so that you can’t even tell where a new message starts in the digest, let alone who actually sent it. Anyone had experience with this and know of a way to get all the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Senders' email addresses not in archives

2014-07-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/21/2014 07:58 PM, Conrad G T Yoder wrote: > [Using 2.1.17] > > I just realized that with the DMARC mitigation “Mung From” option turned on, > the senders’ email addresses are not showing up in the archives. So, > basically impossible to contact them unless replying to the whole list, > a

[Mailman-Users] unable to access admin interface

2014-07-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Chad Rebuck writes: > I'm not able to access the admin interface. I don't reach the page > where I can enter my admin password. The mailman error log doesn't > show anything. > I'm running mailman 2.1.18-1. > > This message appears: > > Gateway Timeout > > The gateway did not recei

Re: [Mailman-Users] Need help with mailman bug

2014-07-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/21/2014 12:27 PM, iva.viane...@crorec.hr wrote: > Hello, > > I desperately need your help. We've been using Mailman newsletter lists > for over 4 years now and it always worked fantastic. This morning we've > moved to a different hosting / server and Mailman displays this bug: See my comme

[Mailman-Users] Senders' email addresses not in archives

2014-07-21 Thread Conrad G T Yoder
[Using 2.1.17] I just realized that with the DMARC mitigation “Mung From” option turned on, the senders’ email addresses are not showing up in the archives. So, basically impossible to contact them unless replying to the whole list, and/or the original sender put their address somewhere in the

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix errors

2014-07-21 Thread Jimmy
> > With open source software, 3rd party guides need to be treated with > > care. Very true, I stumbled upon the other instructions and got that mixed up with what I was working on. I backed it all out and got it working now. Thanks! On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

[Mailman-Users] Moving Archive Lists

2014-07-21 Thread McGregor, Donald (Don) (CIV)
I had a server blow up on me. It’s dead, Jim, but I have backups of the /usr/local/mailman directory, and I’m attempting to bring it up on a new box with a yum-supplied copy of mailman rather than the old-fashioned hand install. I’ve got the yum-supplied version configured, and can create new li

[Mailman-Users] Need help with mailman bug

2014-07-21 Thread iva . vianello
Hello, I desperately need your help. We've been using Mailman newsletter lists for over 4 years now and it always worked fantastic. This morning we've moved to a different hosting / server and Mailman displays this bug: --- Bug in Mailman version 2.1.18-1 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please info

[Mailman-Users] unable to access admin interface

2014-07-21 Thread Chad Rebuck
I'm not able to access the admin interface. I don't reach the page where I can enter my admin password. The mailman error log doesn't show anything. I'm running mailman 2.1.18-1. This message appears: Gateway Timeout The gateway did not receive a timely response from the upstream server or ap

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix errors

2014-07-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/21/2014 10:43 AM, Jimmy wrote: > I just found where the postfix-to-mailman line came from: > > http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Integrating+Mailman+with+postfix > > And see that Mark specifically recommends not using this doc. I'm backing > that config out. Thanks for bringing that FAQ up

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-21 Thread Peter Shute
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > IIRC the big difference between 2.1.17 and 2.1.18-1[1] is that in > 2.1.17 the DMARC-mitigation features[2] are applied to *all* > posts, whereas in 2.1.18 you have the option of checking the > DMARC policy and only making those ugly changes to posts > *from domains

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Peter Shute writes: > Thanks, Dave. How are you coping with yahoo emails if you've only > got 2.1.17? I can't remember what changes it's got in it, but I > thought the latest dealt with it better. IIRC the big difference between 2.1.17 and 2.1.18-1[1] is that in 2.1.17 the DMARC-mitigation fea

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix errors

2014-07-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Jimmy writes: > I found that the file /usr/lib/mailman/bin/postfix-to-mailman.py does not > exist on my system, postfix-to-mailman.py isn't anywhere on my system at > all, so that obviously presents a problem. Is that not normally in the RPM > installation? That's right. IIRC, postfix-to-ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-21 Thread Brian Carpenter
The latest version (which we offer) offers additional moderation features that gives list administrators more options in working with ISPs with poor DMARC policies. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-announce/2014-April/000188.html Brian Carpenter EMWD.com Providing Cloud Services and mo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-21 Thread Peter Shute
Thanks, Dave. How are you coping with yahoo emails if you've only got 2.1.17? I can't remember what changes it's got in it, but I thought the latest dealt with it better. Peter Shute Sent from my iPad > On 22 Jul 2014, at 3:59 am, "Dave Nathanson" wrote: > > Hi Peter, > To answer your quest

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix errors

2014-07-21 Thread Jimmy
Backed out the 3rd party mailman module config, corrected the permissions on the aliases* files, restarted mailman and postfix and all is functional now. Thanks! On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Jimmy wrote: > I just found where the postfix-to-mailman line came from: > > http://wiki.list.org/di

Re: [Mailman-Users] Erratic mail delivery times

2014-07-21 Thread Dave Nathanson
Hi Peter, To answer your question, Dreamhost has the *almost* newest version of MailMan 2.1.17. They upgraded just as 2.1.18 came out and had already tested 2.1.17 so they went with that. And this version does have the most important DMARC mitigation features. So it is working for us. I have n

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix errors

2014-07-21 Thread Jimmy
I just found where the postfix-to-mailman line came from: http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Integrating+Mailman+with+postfix And see that Mark specifically recommends not using this doc. I'm backing that config out. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Jimmy wrote: > I found that the file /usr/lib

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix errors

2014-07-21 Thread Jimmy
I found that the file /usr/lib/mailman/bin/postfix-to-mailman.py does not exist on my system, postfix-to-mailman.py isn't anywhere on my system at all, so that obviously presents a problem. Is that not normally in the RPM installation? Thanks On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Jimmy wrote: > B

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix errors

2014-07-21 Thread Barry S. Finkel
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Jimmy wrote: I'm not sure why it's trying to use a username 'list', if that is the problem. Here are the things you mentioned. Thanks. ==master.cf== mailman unix - n n - - pipe flags=FR user=list argv=/usr/lib/mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix errors

2014-07-21 Thread Jimmy
Based on this error and the following link I think I'm missing something from my /etc/postfix/transport. "unknown mail transport error" http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Mailman+-+Postfix+integration+with+Mailman+generated+transport+or+other+maps I used the 'integrating mailman and postfix' guide

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix errors

2014-07-21 Thread Jimmy
I'm not sure why it's trying to use a username 'list', if that is the problem. Here are the things you mentioned. Thanks. ==master.cf== mailman unix - n n - - pipe flags=FR user=list argv=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/postfix-to-mailman.py ${nexthop} ${user} ==