Re: [Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

On 05/15/2014 08:35 AM, Gary Algier wrote: > > However, the > mailing list software will use an envelope address from the list so SPF > should not fail. SPF won't fail, but for DMARC purposes, the domain of the Envelope sender that passes SPF will not "align" with the From: domain, so the fact t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postings being discarded due to DKIM failures?

At Thu, 15 May 2014 18:36:05 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 05/15/2014 05:38 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > > > It wasn't any of these. I believe I have figured out what happened. The > > poster > > did something 'bad': instead of creating a fresh message he located an old > > message with a re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postings being discarded due to DKIM failures?

On 05/15/2014 05:38 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > It wasn't any of these. I believe I have figured out what happened. The poster > did something 'bad': instead of creating a fresh message he located an old > message with a return address of the list and did a reply and then edited > *some* of the h

Re: [Mailman-Users] Dealing with rate limiting from Roadrunner/Time Warner

On May 15, 2014, at 8:48 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Conrad G T Yoder writes: > >>> Are these true bounces (ie, permanent delivery failures) or just the >>> temporary failures due to rate limiting, causing delays of many hours >>> or days in delivery? >> >> It is a true bounce - mail is be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Virtual Mailman broke!

> From: Mark Sapiro > > On 05/14/2014 04:26 PM, Jan Steinman wrote: >> I'm using the Mailman and postfix that came bundled with MacOS X 10.6 (Snow >> Leopard) on a Mac Mini Server. > > See the FAQ at . Yes, I know you probably > can't get help from Apple, but Apple'

Re: [Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

On May 14, 2014, at 22:47 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull mailto:step...@xemacs.org>> wrote: If distribution lists are pure forwards, MS365 will be OK. But I find it hard to believe that that level of functionality is popular with users -- there's a reason why all popular MLMs implement subject prefixe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Dealing with rate limiting from Roadrunner/Time Warner

Conrad G T Yoder writes: > > Are these true bounces (ie, permanent delivery failures) or just the > > temporary failures due to rate limiting, causing delays of many hours > > or days in delivery? > > It is a true bounce - mail is being rejected. The error message is > phrased as a "tempor

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postings being discarded due to DKIM failures?

At Thu, 15 May 2014 17:14:38 -0700 Mark Sapiro wrote: > > On 05/15/2014 08:43 AM, Robert Heller wrote: > > A list member recently tried to post a message to a list and the message > > was > > discarded for no *appearent* reason. The only clue is that for some reason > > the message is failin

Re: [Mailman-Users] reply_goes_to_list broken in 2.1.18-1?

On 05/15/2014 08:58 AM, Gibbs, David wrote: > > You can see the headers from a test message I sent when tracking down the > problem here: http://code.midrange.com/ab8c5f0363.html It appears there are two incomplete sets of headers there. Lines 1-22 with some of the headers (Received: headers at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Postings being discarded due to DKIM failures?

On 05/15/2014 08:43 AM, Robert Heller wrote: > A list member recently tried to post a message to a list and the message was > discarded for no *appearent* reason. The only clue is that for some reason > the message is failing the DKIM check (DKIM=fail). I am using Mailman 2.1.16 > on CentOS 5

Re: [Mailman-Users] Get newer version of Mailman for Debian 6?

I'd be interested as well. Bruce Harrison UT Martin -Original Message- From: Mailman-Users [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+harrison=utm@python.org] On Behalf Of Terry Earley Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:40 AM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Get newer versio

Re: [Mailman-Users] Get newer version of Mailman for Debian 6?

Barry, > It took me a while to determine what to do, > but after I had built and tested the package, I had no problems > building packages for subsequent Mailman releases. IIRC, the last > Mailman for which I built a package was 2.1.14. I do not know if > any changes since then would require cha

Re: [Mailman-Users] Get newer version of Mailman for Debian 6?

On 5/14/2014 2:40 PM, Sascha Rissel wrote: Hello there, I am running a vServer on Debian6. Via "apt-get install mailman" I installed and set up Mailman 2.1.13, which is running fine with 5 mailing lists on my server. Motivated by all those discussions about Yahoo's DMARC on this list, I wondere

Re: [Mailman-Users] reply_goes_to_list broken in 2.1.18-1?

On 5/15/2014 10:11 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 05/15/2014 07:39 AM, Gibbs, David wrote: >> >> The upgrade went fine ... but after running for a bit some of my >> users told me that when they replied to a list message it was going >> to the author of the message they are replying to instead of the

[Mailman-Users] Postings being discarded due to DKIM failures?

A list member recently tried to post a message to a list and the message was discarded for no *appearent* reason. The only clue is that for some reason the message is failing the DKIM check (DKIM=fail). I am using Mailman 2.1.16 on CentOS 5 (python-2.4.3-56.el5, httpd-2.2.3-85.el5.centos, dki

Re: [Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

On 05/15/14 11:15, Larry Finch wrote: On May 15, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Gary Algier wrote: On 05/14/14 23:47, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: I then sent an email to the list and to my work sendmail address. It was delivered to both work addresses and the iCloud address. Gmail put it in my Spam fo

Re: [Mailman-Users] reply_goes_to_list broken in 2.1.18-1?

On 05/15/2014 07:39 AM, Gibbs, David wrote: > > The upgrade went fine ... but after running for a bit some of my users told > me that when they replied to a list message it was going to the author of the > message they are replying to instead of the list. The Reply-to header was > *NOT* presen

Re: [Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

On May 15, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Gary Algier wrote: > On 05/14/14 23:47, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I then sent an email to the list and to my work sendmail address. It was > delivered to both work addresses and the iCloud address. > > Gmail put it in my Spam folder with the warning: >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

On 05/14/14 23:47, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Peter Shute writes: > When MS365 forwards the mails sent to the distribution list, should > that make the DMARC authentication fail? I thought that only > happened if you made changes like adding a prefix to the subject > line like Mailman do

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman-AttachmentMove: completely remove moved attachment?

On 05/15/2014 01:48 AM, Sylvain Viart wrote: > > What'd be the trouble if I completely remove attachment from the message? None if you do it correctly. Assuming msg is a multipart message object with 3 subparts and you want to delete the second of the 3 parts. parts = msg.get_payload() # parts

[Mailman-Users] reply_goes_to_list broken in 2.1.18-1?

Folks: I was previously running 2.1.17 (after having not upgraded for a VERY long time). Everything is working just fine. I saw the new DMARC modifications and decided to upgrade to 2.1.18-1. The upgrade went fine ... but after running for a bit some of my users told me that when they replied

Re: [Mailman-Users] Dealing with rate limiting from Roadrunner/Time Warner

On 05/15/2014 06:46 AM, Conrad G T Yoder wrote: > > It is a true bounce - mail is being rejected. The error message is phrased > as a "temporary failure," but the message is bounced at the SMTP transaction. > “At some point,” they stop bouncing. RR won’t say when that happens. > > > : deliv

Re: [Mailman-Users] Dealing with rate limiting from Roadrunner/Time Warner

On May 15, 2014, at 12:21 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Conrad G T Yoder writes: > >> Has anyone had to deal with bounces due to rate limiting from >> Roadrunner/Time Warner? > > Are these true bounces (ie, permanent delivery failures) or just the > temporary failures due to rate limiting, c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Get newer version of Mailman for Debian 6?

At Thu, 15 May 2014 16:32:30 +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: > > Sascha Rissel writes: > > Hello there, > > > > I am running a vServer on Debian6. > > Via "apt-get install mailman" I installed and set up Mailman 2.1.13, which > > is running fine with 5 mailing lists on my server. > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Get newer version of Mailman for Debian 6?

At Wed, 14 May 2014 21:40:12 +0200 Sascha Rissel wrote: > > Hello there, > > I am running a vServer on Debian6. > Via "apt-get install mailman" I installed and set up Mailman 2.1.13, which > is running fine with 5 mailing lists on my server. > > Motivated by all those discussions about Yahoo's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Executive summary of DMARC issues

On May 14, 2014, at 11:47 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Peter Shute writes: > >> When MS365 forwards the mails sent to the distribution list, should >> that make the DMARC authentication fail? I thought that only >> happened if you made changes like adding a prefix to the subject >> line lik

[Mailman-Users] mailman-AttachmentMove: completely remove moved attachment?

Hi, What'd be the trouble if I completely remove attachment from the message? First I've copied the behavior of the Handler Scrubber.py and ThunderBird filelink module. It wipes the attachment but sill send a fake one. Which looks like: --020101070601020108020001 X-Mozilla-Cloud-

[Mailman-Users] Get newer version of Mailman for Debian 6?

Sascha Rissel writes: > Hello there, > > I am running a vServer on Debian6. > Via "apt-get install mailman" I installed and set up Mailman 2.1.13, which > is running fine with 5 mailing lists on my server. > > Motivated by all those discussions about Yahoo's DMARC on this list, I > wonder