[Mailman-Users] Seeing your own sig appear in (someone else's) email to the list

One of my users on one of my lists is seeing something odd. His own signatures are appearing on other people’s emails sent to a Mailman (2.1.14) list. Some points of info: - He has his own domain, hosted by google - Email is read on the web (not sure which browser) - It appears on some, but no

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mirror mailing list with web forum

> From: t...@yingtong.co.uk > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 00:36:37 +0100 > ref identity I really mean at present most of the traffic is on the mailing > list (and the forum is more of an archive for 80% of the joint community) > where users complain they can’t easily identify forum posters as people (

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mirror mailing list with web forum

On 17 Apr 2014, at 22:04, Jon 1234 wrote: > > From: t...@yingtong.co.uk > > I have it working with Fudforum and although the fudforum integration was > > (to me) poorly documented I got it working and has been stable / rock solid > > for a couple of years now. > > > > It would be nice to get

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mirror mailing list with web forum

> From: t...@yingtong.co.uk > I have it working with Fudforum and although the fudforum integration was (to > me) poorly documented I got it working and has been stable / rock solid for a > couple of years now. > > It would be nice to get things like membership linked between the two and to > m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.18 release

On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 16:28 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > (not Mark), short answer "yes". PyDNS and DNSPython are 2 different python > libs, the latter seems to be more popular. Slightly confusing :) >>> import DNS[imports PyDNS] >>> import dns[imports DNSPython]

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Bellsouth, etc.

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Lindsay Haisley writes: > > Someone, maybe it was you, posted on this forum earlier that perhaps 90% > > or more of spam with a yahoo.com origin (or one of their international > > DNs) actually _does_ come from Yahoo > > Wasn't me.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.18 release

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:32 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > dnspython > > Mark, is this distinct from pydns at ? > (not Mark), short answer "yes". PyDNS and DNSPython are 2 differen

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.18 release

On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:32 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > dnspython Mark, is this distinct from pydns at ? -- Lindsay Haisley | "Everything works if you let it" FMP Computer Services | 512-259-1190 | --- The Roadie h

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and From header munging

On Fri, 2014-04-18 at 03:51 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Lindsay Haisley writes: > > > Mailman to change the From: address to a VERP-like address with the > > author's address encapsulated within an address @ the list server. > > Any mail received by the list server for this address woul

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman

On Apr 18, 2014, at 03:07 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Getting it right by design ... well, that's why we need Mailman 3. And really, Python 3. The email package in Python 3.4 rocks. -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python

[Mailman-Users] DMARC and From header munging

Lindsay Haisley writes: > Mailman to change the From: address to a VERP-like address with the > author's address encapsulated within an address @ the list server. > Any mail received by the list server for this address would have > its address parsed by Mailman and be redirected to the origina

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and From header munging

On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:29 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 04/17/2014 11:01 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > > It occurred to me that one possible variation on From: header munging > > which wouldn't break any applications depending on this being an actual, > > working address for a post's author, whil

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.18 release

On 04/17/2014 11:32 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I am pleased to announce the first release candidate for Mailman 2.1.18. I neglected to emphasize that there are some new and some modified i18n strings in this release. I strongly encourage all interested people to look at these and submit translatio

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mirror mailing list with web forum

On 17 Apr 2014, at 04:27, Jon 1234 wrote: >> From: rich...@damon-family.org >> I have been (slowly) working on an module to integrate a mailing list to >> a Drupal web site. My goal is to generate an archive that you can easily >> find recent messages in, and then be able to reply back to the li

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.18 release

I am pleased to announce the first release candidate for Mailman 2.1.18. Python 2.4 is the minimum supported, but Python 2.7 is recommended. This release has new features to help with mitigation of the impacts of DMARC on mailing lists. There is also a new dependency associated with these featur

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Bellsouth, etc.

Lindsay Haisley writes: > Stephen, thanks for your generous reply, and your insights. It > does seem to me, though, that when megabucks are riding on > additional bandwidth, and if Yahoo is serious about controlling > spam, they might start by putting some resources behind putting > their ow

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and From header munging

On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 12:26 -0600, Terry Earley wrote: > I have been following this thread with interest, and relieved that for our > list, all posts are moderated. We have determined to repost all messages > coming from Yahoo with our moderator's account. > > To your question if VERP might be a p

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and From header munging

On 04/17/2014 11:01 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > It occurred to me that one possible variation on From: header munging > which wouldn't break any applications depending on this being an actual, > working address for a post's author, while still passing DMARC > authentication, would be for Mailman t

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and From header munging

Lindsey, I have been following this thread with interest, and relieved that for our list, all posts are moderated. We have determined to repost all messages coming from Yahoo with our moderator's account. To your question if VERP might be a partial answer, we are using VERP and "Full personalizati

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman

I see you've already responded, but there are a few things I'd like to clarify. Laura Creighton writes: > But you and I could quite easily both want English(USA) as the > default language for our lists, but you also want us-ascii while I > want utf-8. The way things stand now, we cannot both

[Mailman-Users] DMARC and From header munging

It occurred to me that one possible variation on From: header munging which wouldn't break any applications depending on this being an actual, working address for a post's author, while still passing DMARC authentication, would be for Mailman to change the From: address to a VERP-like address with

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman

In a message of Thu, 17 Apr 2014 15:54:19 +0200, Laura Creighton writes: >In a message of Thu, 17 Apr 2014 05:41:15 -0700, Mark Sapiro writes: >>The issue is msg_footer is assumed to be in the character set of the >>list's language, us-ascii by default for English. I don't think Mailman >>does the

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Bellsouth, etc.

I can't answer your specific question but a number of years ago I created a Yahoo account which required the creation of a Yahoo email address. I have never used that email address nor have I divulged it to anyone. Oddly enough, thousands of spam email addresses land in that Yahoo email account

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Bellsouth, etc.

On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 15:24 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Their understanding (and knowledge) of accepted best practices > > regarding email and mailing lists is woefully limited. > > I rather doubt that. The DMARC I-D has gone through several editions > (I-Ds have a life-span limited t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman

On 04/17/2014 06:54 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Thu, 17 Apr 2014 05:41:15 -0700, Mark Sapiro writes: > > Now that my problem has gone from 'getting the EP footers to work' to > 'understanding what exactly is going on here'. And right now I do not > see why the charset for the lis

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mirror mailing list with web forum

On Apr 17, 2014, at 04:27 AM, Jon 1234 wrote: >When is Mailman 3 expected to be released, very approximately? We *are* going to do a beta release of the full suite after Pycon. I expect there will be bugs and missing features, but we're hoping people will bang on it and help us get to a good, st

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade 2.1.14 to 2.1.17 on Ubuntu Question

On 04/17/2014 06:23 AM, Richard Shetron wrote: > I've searched the list and found enough related posts that this looks > like it should be simple just reinstall, hopefully with the original > PREFIX settings and probably diff the old and new mm_cfg.py files just > to catch all the changes/new featu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman

On Apr 17, 2014, at 03:54 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: >Now that my problem has gone from 'getting the EP footers to work' to >'understanding what exactly is going on here'. And right now I do not >see why the charset for the lists' language has to be hard coded in >mm_cfg.py, nor why there has to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman

In a message of Thu, 17 Apr 2014 05:41:15 -0700, Mark Sapiro writes: >The issue is msg_footer is assumed to be in the character set of the >list's language, us-ascii by default for English. I don't think Mailman >does the right thing in this case. >From my perspective, the problem is that by havin

[Mailman-Users] Upgrade 2.1.14 to 2.1.17 on Ubuntu Question

I've searched the list and found enough related posts that this looks like it should be simple just reinstall, hopefully with the original PREFIX settings and probably diff the old and new mm_cfg.py files just to catch all the changes/new features/etc. I have visual problems so my eyes often go fu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman

On 04/17/2014 05:28 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Mailman already has about 200 lines of logic to handle cases where the > footer charset is incompatible with the message's charset. Have you > tried simply changing the Python escape to a literal EN DASH in the > web interface? I hope Mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman

On 04/17/2014 04:19 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: > > But unless I have overlooked something, there is no way to make a charset > change on a per-list basis through the mailman administrative interface. > Instead you have to edit mm_cfg.py Correct. > Even if I had root access on python.org, I wo

[Mailman-Users] Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman

Hi, Laura! Laura Creighton writes: > But the Europython mailing list is configured so that its messages > come out > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This isn't from the list or site configuration, this is from the poster's mail user agent (MUA). The mailing list does not cho

[Mailman-Users] Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman

I am trying to understand how charset encoding works, and I get the distinct idea that I must be missing one small, vital piece of information. Background: The problem arose as follows: Somebody changed the footer of the EuroPython Mailing list which is hosted at python.org to be: EuroPython 201

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Bellsouth, etc.

Larry Kuenning writes: > Query: On a very low-traffic mailing list (i.e. one where the list > admin doesn't think it too much trouble), would it be a reasonable > workaround for the list admin to paste the content of a > message-to-be-moderated (i.e. one From: a yahoo address) into a new