Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL redacts user addresses even with VERP and full personalization enabled

2012-06-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Lindsay Haisley writes: > On the lists which I administer myself I try to make the unsubscribe > process very easy and transparent. Every user who tries, > unsuccessfully, to unsubscribe is sent the following clear and > unambiguous message with easy-to-follow instructions: But no goats?! I

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL redacts user addresses even with VERP and full personalization enabled

2012-06-20 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 18:23 -0700, Russell Clemings wrote: > >From the reports I've received, it looks as if they redact only from the > headers. With personalization on, I put a "%(user_address)s" token in the > non-digest footer and as of the last report I got (June 8) it came through > the feedb

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL redacts user addresses even with VERP and full personalization enabled

2012-06-20 Thread Russell Clemings
>From the reports I've received, it looks as if they redact only from the headers. With personalization on, I put a "%(user_address)s" token in the non-digest footer and as of the last report I got (June 8) it came through the feedback loop intact. I've never figured out a similar fix for digests,

[Mailman-Users] Trying to install mm 3.0.0b1

2012-06-20 Thread Lindsay Haisley
I sent this to the dev list and didn't get any answers. It's probably more appropriate on this list anyway. I'm trying to install mm 3.0.0b1 as per the directions in START.rst. I'm running into a bit of a problem with zc.buildout. in the bootstrap.py script. The script reports: $ python bootstr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Possible (benign) typo in Mailman 2.1.15 file"UPGRADING"

2012-06-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Rich Kulawiec wrote: >This file has a section which describes the 2.1.14 to 2.1.15 upgrade >process. It reads in part: > > "The bin/upgrade script, which is run automatically when you > upgrade, should convert all the old style qfiles to the new > style qfiles." > >However, I do

Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderators approval

2012-06-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
rpsch...@knology.net wrote: >Moderators are not getting notices that messages are waiting for Moderators >approval. Do they not get any notices including the daily summary of pending requests? Is the list's admin_immediate_notify set to Yes? Is mail to LISTNAME-owner@... delivered to owners/m

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL redacts user addresses even with VERP and full personalization enabled

2012-06-20 Thread Mike Starr
Ah, if only I could write documentation as clear as that! Best regards, Mike -- Mike Starr WriteStarr Information Services Technical Writer -Online Help Developer - WordPress Websites Graphic Designer - Desktop Publisher - Custom Microsoft Word templates (26

[Mailman-Users] Moderators approval

2012-06-20 Thread rpschwar
Moderators are not getting notices that messages are waiting for Moderators approval. Robert P. Schwartz -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.li

[Mailman-Users] Possible (benign) typo in Mailman 2.1.15 file "UPGRADING"

2012-06-20 Thread Rich Kulawiec
This file has a section which describes the 2.1.14 to 2.1.15 upgrade process. It reads in part: "The bin/upgrade script, which is run automatically when you upgrade, should convert all the old style qfiles to the new style qfiles." However, I don't seem to have a bin/upgr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting bounce_notify_owner_on_disable not working

2012-06-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Willy Janssen wrote: > >One user of a small mailing list was set to "no mail", reason: "B -- >Delivery was disabled by the system due to excessive bouncing from the >member's address". Ok, that's fine. The problem is that I, the list >administrator, got no notification although >"bounce_notify_

[Mailman-Users] Setting bounce_notify_owner_on_disable not working

2012-06-20 Thread Willy Janssen
Hello, One user of a small mailing list was set to "no mail", reason: "B -- Delivery was disabled by the system due to excessive bouncing from the member's address". Ok, that's fine. The problem is that I, the list administrator, got no notification although "bounce_notify_owner_on_disable" i

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL redacts user addresses even with VERP and full personalization enabled

2012-06-20 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 14:48 -0500, Mike Starr wrote: > Many of the mailman cognoscenti are highly skilled technical folks > with little respect (and often little tolerance) for clueless users. > Sometimes you just have to choke back the bile and lovingly correct > those who have less understanding.

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL redacts user addresses even with VERP and full personalization enabled

2012-06-20 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 20:42 -0400, Dave (FitEyes) wrote: > Now that you motivated me, I actually read the blog post too: > http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2008/08/13/more-on-the-upcoming-feedback-loop-conversion/ > > It now seems pretty clear that we can use these reports in the way > Lindsay and o