Re: [Mailman-Users] Commercial distributions of Mailman & GPL

2010-08-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad Knowles writes: > It's Python, so unless they're doing a pre-compiled bytecode > distribution, they are distributing the source on the same media as > the installer -- the source is all they've got. Not quite. The full source as defined by the GPL includes any build scripts such as check

Re: [Mailman-Users] Commercial distributions of Mailman & GPL

2010-08-28 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010, Brad Knowles wrote: It's Python, so unless they're doing a pre-compiled bytecode distribution, Certainlyin the case of CPanel, they're not. they are distributing the source on the same media as the installer -- the source is all they've got. Which means of course that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Commercial distributions of Mailman & GPL

2010-08-28 Thread Brad Knowles
On Aug 28, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> I'm tempted to use the FSF lawyers instead of seeing if we can go >> through PSF, since the FSF lawyers have recently had some fairly >> public successes, and they might be more inclined to help try to >> find all the ways in which we can

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot set digest mode via URL

2010-08-28 Thread Larry Stone
On 8/28/10 10:47 AM, Steve Burling at s...@umich.edu wrote: > --On August 28, 2010 10:32:15 AM -0500 Brad Knowles > wrote: > >> After that, we might think about whether or not we can, or should, go >> after Apple. Both companies are shipping our code with extensive >> modifications, and so far

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot set digest mode via URL

2010-08-28 Thread Steve Burling
--On August 28, 2010 10:32:15 AM -0500 Brad Knowles wrote: After that, we might think about whether or not we can, or should, go after Apple. Both companies are shipping our code with extensive modifications, and so far as I know neither of them has released their changes, as required by the

[Mailman-Users] CPanel Mailman (was Re: Cannot set digest mode via URL)

2010-08-28 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 8/28/2010 2:24 AM, William Bagwell wrote: I can confirm that a cPanel Mailman install that recently was 2.1.11.cp3 is now showing 2.1.13 in the headers. Thanks for the confirmation. I can also confirm that a site which was previously running Mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot set digest mode via URL

2010-08-28 Thread Brad Knowles
On Aug 28, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Just FYI, 2.1.14 is going to be released next month. You might want to > wait. I've been totally out of the loop for way too long. I need to get back up to speed and see what is changing and how that might affect our operations for python.org.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot set digest mode via URL

2010-08-28 Thread Brad Knowles
On Aug 28, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I would love to have a better relationship with the cPanel Mailman > folks, but I have none. They don't acknowledge me at all. Anything I > know about cPanel Mailman internals is via code provided to me by 3rd > parties. I recently bought a MacOS

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot set digest mode via URL

2010-08-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 8/28/2010 2:24 AM, William Bagwell wrote: > > I can confirm that a cPanel Mailman install that recently was 2.1.11.cp3 > is now showing 2.1.13 in the headers. Thanks for the confirmation. > I think Mark has seen their code and is working to have a better > relationship with them... Ah, s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot set digest mode via URL

2010-08-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote: > >I'm sure that Mark and Barry have "real" 2.1.13 systems out there that this >could be tested with, but I do not currently have access to such myself, at >least not in any kind of publicly accessible place. > >I am sorely tempted to log onto mail.python.org and do the upgrad

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot set digest mode via URL

2010-08-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
W. Curtis Preston wrote: >First you have to subscribe them, then you would issue the following URL: > >http:///mailman/admin//members?user=& > >_digest=1&setmemberopts_btn=Submit%20Your%20Changes&allmodbit_val=0& >_language=en&_nodupes=1&adminpw= > > >This has also worked for a few years, but I ju

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and htdig - issues after installing htdig

2010-08-28 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > >I have been following this thread and had hoped to find a solution to my > >problem, but seems it's ended without the answer I expected:-) > >In my situation (several live lists), I get this error when I make a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cannot set digest mode via URL

2010-08-28 Thread William Bagwell
On Saturday 28 August 2010, Brad Knowles wrote: > Are you sure it's 2.1.13, and not something like 2.1.11-cp3?  In all > the versions I've ever seen cPanel release, they've always included a > dash and then their internal version identifier for their modified > code. I can confirm that a cPanel Ma

[Mailman-Users] * Never Mind* (was: Odd problem changing passwords)

2010-08-28 Thread J.A. Terranson
And my apologies to the late Emily Littella while I'm at it :-) I had switched windows winthout realizing it: I'm an idiot! Have a great weekend everyone, //Alif -- "Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always re