Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.com email addresses

2010-03-01 Thread LuKreme
On 1-Mar-2010, at 09:58, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > I think Yahoo is wrong in this. Oh yeah, there's no question at all that Yahoo has their proverbial head up their backsides. But they are a large enough gorilla that they don't have to care. I am happy to say that I've convinced many people to sw

Re: [Mailman-Users] one-click subscription

2010-03-01 Thread LuKreme
On 1-Mar-2010, at 10:50, David Newman wrote: > > For a read-only announcement list, I'm looking for a way to set up > "one-click subscription" where a user enters an email in a form on a web > page and gets subscribed right away, with no confirmation needed. Please let me know the domain(s) these

[Mailman-Users] Wiki scheduled downtime

2010-03-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
Just a quick announcement to let you know that wiki.list.org is scheduled to be off-line for upgrades starting at 2200 UTC on Friday, March 19, 2010. Total downtime is not known, as they will be upgrading us to the latest version and it's a big upgrade. Cheers, -Barry signature.asc Description:

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Announce] New Logo Contest for 2010

2010-03-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 15, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >Our current GNU Mailman logos were designed by the Dragon De Monsyne many >years ago. They have served us exceedingly well, but with the coming of >Mailman 3, we've decided it's time our logos got a face lift. So we're >opening up a new logo con

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.com email

2010-03-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Hank van Cleef wrote: > >Rather than bounce the mail with a 5.x.x DSN the recipient site defers >with a 4.x.x DSN. Mailman, as an MUA, receives notices sent to >listname-bounces that the mail is being deferred, but unless Mailman >is set to deliver those messages to the admin, they vanish. If

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.com email

2010-03-01 Thread Hank van Cleef
The esteemed Mark Sapiro has said: > > Very persistent as in delaying for more than 5 days, or is your MTA's > retry period shorter than that? > > I'm sure you know what's happening in your case; maybe I'm just lucky, > but I think my Yahoo deferrals/retries always succeed within way less > than

Re: [Mailman-Users] one-click subscription

2010-03-01 Thread Terri Oda
David Newman wrote: On 3/1/10 10:34 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: David Newman wrote: For a read-only announcement list, I'm looking for a way to set up "one-click subscription" where a user enters an email in a form on a web page and gets subscribed right away, with no confirmation needed. This is n

Re: [Mailman-Users] one-click subscription

2010-03-01 Thread David Newman
On 3/1/10 10:34 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > David Newman wrote: > >> For a read-only announcement list, I'm looking for a way to set up >> "one-click subscription" where a user enters an email in a form on a web >> page and gets subscribed right away, with no confirmation needed. > > > This is not

Re: [Mailman-Users] one-click subscription

2010-03-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
David Newman wrote: >For a read-only announcement list, I'm looking for a way to set up >"one-click subscription" where a user enters an email in a form on a web >page and gets subscribed right away, with no confirmation needed. This is not a good idea. It allows anyone to subscribe anyone else

Re: [Mailman-Users] one-click subscription

2010-03-01 Thread Geoff Shang
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, David Newman wrote: For a read-only announcement list, I'm looking for a way to set up "one-click subscription" where a user enters an email in a form on a web page and gets subscribed right away, with no confirmation needed. Note that you're going to open yorself up to the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.comemailaddresses

2010-03-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
J.R. Constance wrote: > >As I looked back through the Bounce log I can see the history for what you >describe below; multiple bounce notifications, account disabled after ~2 >weeks, then account unsubscribed after another two weeks. > >Is there another log that would show the response(s) from yah

[Mailman-Users] one-click subscription

2010-03-01 Thread David Newman
For a read-only announcement list, I'm looking for a way to set up "one-click subscription" where a user enters an email in a form on a web page and gets subscribed right away, with no confirmation needed. Thanks in advance for clues on setting this up with MM, Apache and postfix. Apologies in ad

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.com emailaddresses

2010-03-01 Thread J.R. Constance
Thanks Mark. As I looked back through the Bounce log I can see the history for what you describe below; multiple bounce notifications, account disabled after ~2 weeks, then account unsubscribed after another two weeks. Is there another log that would show the response(s) from yahoo.com, either

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.com email addresses

2010-03-01 Thread Brian Carpenter
> Brian Carpenter wrote: > > > >We have a server where this problem is happening and in the case of > this > >particular server (being solely used by a single non-profit > organization) > >Yahoo is being VERY persistent in delaying their messages and they are > >seeing Yahoo.com addresses being uns

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.com emailaddresses

2010-03-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
J.R. Constance wrote: > >I was surprised at these unsubscribes because it has been almost 4 weeks since >any messages have gone out to this list, and I had removed any queued mail >from the queue server several weeks ago. The bouncing member's delivery is disabled by bounce processing and if re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.com email addresses

2010-03-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brian Carpenter wrote: > >We have a server where this problem is happening and in the case of this >particular server (being solely used by a single non-profit organization) >Yahoo is being VERY persistent in delaying their messages and they are >seeing Yahoo.com addresses being unsubsribed. We are

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman without Apache or webinterface on anotherWebserver (Debian)

2010-03-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dieter Knopf wrote: > >i use different servers for mail / web and because of that i can't use >mailman _with_ apache on the same server. > >Is there any way to install the interface on another webserver? Only by using NFS or another shared file system. Your choices are: 1) Install Mailman on th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.comemail addresses

2010-03-01 Thread Brian Carpenter
> my experience, Yahoo always ultimately accepts the message before the > MTA gives up and returns failure to Mailman. We have a server where this problem is happening and in the case of this particular server (being solely used by a single non-profit organization) Yahoo is being VERY persistent i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.com email addresses

2010-03-01 Thread J.R. Constance
Thanks to all. I appreciate the quick responses. Subscribe log says: [reason: BYBOUNCE] and Bounce log says: deleted after exhausting notices I was surprised at these unsubscribes because it has been almost 4 weeks since any messages have gone out to this list, and I had removed any queued ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.comemail addresses

2010-03-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brian Carpenter wrote: > >You can check your mail log to see if you are seeing a high number of Yahoo! >deferrals. If so then those deferrals may be behind those unsubscribes, Yahoo deferrals should not cause this. The message should be simply queued and retried in the MTA with no notification to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.com email addresses

2010-03-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Brian Carpenter : > You can check your mail log to see if you are seeing a high number of Yahoo! > deferrals. If so then those deferrals may be behind those unsubscribes, > especially if they have been unsubscribed due to excessive bounces. Checking > the mailman/logs/subscribe log should show y

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.com emailaddresses

2010-03-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
J.R. Constance wrote: >I run a few Mailman mailing lists (2.1.12cp3 - 42 lists with 500 subscribers >max on each list) for a professional association that I belong to. Over the >last three days I have had a series of unexplained unsubscribes from one of >the lists, and almost all of the unsubsc

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.com email addresses

2010-03-01 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 10:23:18AM -0500, J.R. Constance wrote: > almost all of the unsubscribed email addresses are yahoo.com > addresses. Do you have 'special' retry conditions for Yahoo-hosted domains, in your MTA? If not, you may want something, q.v., exim-users' archive (and probably elsewh

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.com email addresses

2010-03-01 Thread Brian Carpenter
> -Original Message- > From: mailman-users-bounces+brian=emwd@python.org [mailto:mailman- > users-bounces+brian=emwd@python.org] On Behalf Of J.R. Constance > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:23 AM > To: Mailman Users > Subject: [Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.com e

[Mailman-Users] Unexplained unsubscribes of yahoo.com email addresses

2010-03-01 Thread J.R. Constance
I run a few Mailman mailing lists (2.1.12cp3 - 42 lists with 500 subscribers max on each list) for a professional association that I belong to. Over the last three days I have had a series of unexplained unsubscribes from one of the lists, and almost all of the unsubscribed email addresses are y

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachment problems

2010-03-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
jeremy croft wrote: > >I have a list serve with you and for some reason we can no longer send >attachments through. Can you please help me to fix this issue? Thank >you.Jeremy You do not have a "list serv" [1] with us. We are the GNU Mailman project,

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to reply to messages posted on mailman!!!

2010-03-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
Arya Mazaheri wrote: >I want to reply to a message that already posted on a mailing list >(mailman). but I don't know how? would you mind giving me a solution? Go to the message in the list's archive and click the poster's (munged) address. This should open your default MUA ready for your reply.

[Mailman-Users] attachment problems

2010-03-01 Thread jeremy croft
I have a list serve with you and for some reason we can no longer send attachments through. Can you please help me to fix this issue? Thank you.Jeremy _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows

[Mailman-Users] Mailman without Apache or webinterface on another Webserver (Debian)

2010-03-01 Thread Dieter Knopf
Hello, i use different servers for mail / web and because of that i can't use mailman _with_ apache on the same server. Is there any way to install the interface on another webserver? Is there a debian-package without apache2-dependence? Thanks --

[Mailman-Users] How to reply to messages posted on mailman!!!

2010-03-01 Thread Arya Mazaheri
Hello I want to reply to a message that already posted on a mailing list (mailman). but I don't know how? would you mind giving me a solution? Best Regards Arya Mazaheri -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.or