On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:35 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>> SPF and DKIM solve 2 different parts of the problem of forged emails.
>> Neither provides complete coverage, together they work well.
>
> Please explain. AFAICR, neither works very well with mailing lists
> because they're both designed
A current thread reminded me of the trouble I was having with
Mailman taking 2 - 3 hours to process messages and send them
out. I requested the list's help in tracking down the problem.
Turned out to be a hardware issue. Some bad disk blocks
showed up in the qfiles tree so some qrunner processe
As below.
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From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
Sent: Thursday, 18 February 2010 3:03 p.m.
To: Steven Jones; mailman-users@python.org
Cc: Andrey Sabitov
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman no longer working or working very slowly
Steven Jones wrote:
>While looki
Rob MacGregor writes:
> That would be a surprise to the SPF folks, and the steady progression
> of folks who're implementing it ;)
Over the years a lot of things have been surprises to the SPF folks.
I'm sorry for the misinformation, but the SPF promoters have been
guilty of "excessive optimism
Mark Sapiro wrote:
>Steven Jones wrote:
>
>>While looking at the shunt queue I see a all pcks at a certain time (Feb 17
>>20:21) I have looked at so far have this as a content, instead of normal
>>content.
>>
>>
>>[r...@vuwunicosmtp004 shunt]# /var/mailman/bin/show_qfiles
>>11973219
Steven Jones wrote:
>While looking at the shunt queue I see a all pcks at a certain time (Feb 17
>20:21) I have looked at so far have this as a content, instead of normal
>content.
>
>
>[r...@vuwunicosmtp004 shunt]# /var/mailman/bin/show_qfiles
>1197321907.8858631+471a68770096868aa8
While looking at the shunt queue I see a all pcks at a certain time (Feb 17
20:21) I have looked at so far have this as a content, instead of normal
content.
[r...@vuwunicosmtp004 shunt]# /var/mailman/bin/show_qfiles
1197321907.8858631+471a68770096868aa8540e5bf8bc643da86ac63d.pck|m
Hi,
Looking at shunt we have 127 itemsbut its not all the same list we have at
least 5 so far
When I do a, find /var/mailman/lists/ -name digest.mbox |wc -l
I have 49 lists
So its not obvious which list it is so far...
I have looked inside one digest.mbox and there is nothing but
Steven Jones wrote:
>
>Which python process - i.e.which qrunner.
>
>Also look in Mailmans qfiles/* directories to see which one has a large
>number of messages.
>
>==
>in.
>==
>
>We moved the queues and restarted its now running finewhich isnt a real
>fix of course.
I think o
Steven Jones wrote:
>
>What's at the start of that traceback leading up to the first call to
>deepcopy?
>
>=
>Feb 16 15:05:45 2010 (2632) Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in _oneloop
>self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
> File "/var/m
-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
Sent: Thursday, 18 February 2010 3:56 a.m.
To: Steven Jones; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman no longer working or working very slowly
Steven Jones wrote:
>
>Yesterday after 5 years of operation
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Yes, that. Something is really hosed.
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LOL..
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Have you tried just restarting
Mailman?
=
Yes and a reboot.no difference...
=
What's at the start of that traceback leading up to the first call to
deepcopy?
=
Feb 16 15:05:45 2010 (2
Steven Jones wrote:
>
>Is there a way forward? I have to hand this on as I have to fix something
>else...will come back to it in about 4 hours from now
>
OK, As you see, I too have been off line for a while.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
>Sent:
also sprach Barry Warsaw [2010.02.18.1121 +1300]:
> > Looking at the docs at
> > http://packages.python.org/mailman/docs/README.html, I cannot
> > find any mention of virtual hosting. Will mailman 3 be able to
> > host f...@bar.com as well as f...@baz.org as two separate lists?
>
> Yes. The key
On Feb 16, 2010, at 8:40 PM, martin f krafft wrote:
> I only just returned to mailman after a long time away and found 3.0
> in active development. Yay!
Come join us over in mailman-developers! :)
> Looking at the docs at
> http://packages.python.org/mailman/docs/README.html, I cannot find
> any
Hi,
Is there a way forward? I have to hand this on as I have to fix something
else...will come back to it in about 4 hours from now
regards
Steven
-Original Message-
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
Sent: Thursday, 18 February 2010 3:56 a.m.
To: Steven Jones; mailman-use
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 15:23, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Geoff Shang writes:
>
> It is being done, although not via the MX for the reasons Larry Stone
> gives. What you're looking for is call "SPF" or "DKIM" (these are
> actually two different protocols, and I think with the standardization
>
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>Geoff Shang writes:
>
> > 2. One idea I came up with for rejecting spoofed mail is for the
> > receiving SMTP server to somehow check if the sending one is an MX for the
> > domain given in the From header. Are there any obvious problems with this
> > approach? Is
Peet Grobler wrote:
>What exactly does the message in the subject mean? This is for messages
>delivered via SMTPDirect to local users on the machine itself. I don't
>see any remote addresses in smtp-failure for this domain.
This message comes from the Python smtplib module and it means smtplib
Nancie J. Barnes wrote:
>
>My name is Nancie and I am the new business manager for Get Back, Inc. I am
>unsure how to handle the following e-mail that I received. Is there anyone
>who may be able to assist me?
>
>
>-1 Mailman moderator request(s) waiting
[...]
>The mail...@getbackinc.com mailing
Geoff Shang writes:
> 2. One idea I came up with for rejecting spoofed mail is for the
> receiving SMTP server to somehow check if the sending one is an MX for the
> domain given in the From header. Are there any obvious problems with this
> approach? Is anyone actually doing this? It s
Steven Jones wrote:
>
>Yesterday after 5 years of operation ou mailman application has "died" it
>seems to be barely running taking 3 or more hours to process lists...previous
>load was <0.2 now its around 1 with a python process absorbing 1 CPU
>constantly.
Which python process - i.e.which qr
Larry Stone wrote:
>On 2/17/10 7:56 AM, Geoff Shang at ge...@quitelikely.com wrote:
>
>> 1. It's possible to use an IP address to block(at least temporarily)
>> these messages. If I put this IP address into a Mailman spam filter, will
>> this be checked *before* checking whether or not the perso
What exactly does the message in the subject mean? This is for messages
delivered via SMTPDirect to local users on the machine itself. I don't
see any remote addresses in smtp-failure for this domain.
Also - my out/ queue keeps filling up at times. I'm not sure if this is
related. I'm using ex
My name is Nancie and I am the new business manager for Get Back, Inc. I am
unsure how to handle the following e-mail that I received. Is there anyone
who may be able to assist me?
-1 Mailman moderator request(s) waiting
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Hi,
Yesterday after 5 years of operation ou mailman application has "died" it seems
to be barely running taking 3 or more hours to process lists...previous load
was <0.2 now its around 1 with a python process absorbing 1 CPU constantly.
We are running on RHEL3-32bit and the errors are,
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On 2/17/10 7:56 AM, Geoff Shang at ge...@quitelikely.com wrote:
> 1. It's possible to use an IP address to block(at least temporarily)
> these messages. If I put this IP address into a Mailman spam filter, will
> this be checked *before* checking whether or not the person is a member of
> the li
Hello,
I have two spam-related questions, one relevant to Mailman and one not.
Apologies for the one that isn't, but I hope you will endulge this query.
A person has been spoofing Email addresses on a number of
blindness-related Email lists this week. I won't go into the particulars
as it's
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