Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Fitzsimons wrote: >On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:33:07 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >>The script is not a screen scraper in that sense. It accesses the >>list's admin Membership Management... -> Membership List pages and >>parses them to get the data. > >Via my browser, or via an FTP logon ? I am usi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-22 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:33:07 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: >John Fitzsimons wrote: >>Yes, the loss of user options I can live with BUT the loss of >>passwords would be a concern. In this case the Gmane subscription. >I don't think the password of the Gmane subscription to the Mailman >list is impo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Fitzsimons wrote: > >Yes, the loss of user options I can live with BUT the loss of >passwords would be a concern. In this case the Gmane subscription. I don't think the password of the Gmane subscription to the Mailman list is important. >If I un subscribed them, then re-subscribed them,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-22 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:12:46 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: >John Fitzsimons wrote: < snip > >>If I did that then I could presumably start the list again. Identical >>to the previous list. But with archiving turned "off" from the >>beginning ? >The drawback is all user options/passwords/etc. get lo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Fitzsimons wrote: > >But this does lead me to think of a few more questions. If I closed >my mailing list then wouldn't all the Mailman archive files be >deleted ? That's a cPanel question. In standard Mailman, whether you remove a list from the command line with bin/rmlist or via the rmli

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-22 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:59:20 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: >Geoff Shang wrote: >>On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> If your FTP session is not chrooted to your own home directory or some >>> other limitation, you chould be able to find them. >>But presumably not delete them. >Presumably

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-22 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 00:42:25 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Mark Sapiro writes: < snip > > > Eventually, we'll find out if it works. I suspect it does, Preliminary testing suggests that it IS working. >I do too, because larsi is not an idiot. I have to imagine that like >99% of messages

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Geoff Shang wrote: >On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> If your FTP session is not chrooted to your own home directory or some >> other limitation, you chould be able to find them. > >But presumably not delete them. Presumably not, but it wouldn't be the first time that people had permi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-22 Thread Geoff Shang
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, Mark Sapiro wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, John Fitzsimons wrote: I would like to know how to access the archive file so that I can delete it by FTP. I cannot however find it ! Maybe my web hoster has somehow made the directory invisible ? Sorry. I missed the above query. T

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Geoff Shang wrote: >On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, John Fitzsimons wrote: > >> I would like to know how to access the archive file so that I can >> delete it by FTP. I cannot however find it ! Maybe my web hoster >> has somehow made the directory invisible ? > >Mailman files are usually put somewhere other

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-22 Thread Geoff Shang
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, John Fitzsimons wrote: I would like to know how to access the archive file so that I can delete it by FTP. I cannot however find it ! Maybe my web hoster has somehow made the directory invisible ? Mailman files are usually put somewhere other than in your hosting area. Th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-22 Thread Young, Darren
> >> Issue #2 is once again an obvious thing to have checked, but I think > >> archiving must be disabled in mm_cfg.py with > >> > >> ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX = -1 > >Nothing set in mm_cfg.py for that but it is set to -1 in Defaults.py. > I > >just set it to 0, didn't even think about looking in there for i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Young, Darren wrote: >> >> Issue #2 is once again an obvious thing to have checked, but I think >> archiving must be disabled in mm_cfg.py with >> >> ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX = -1 >Nothing set in mm_cfg.py for that but it is set to -1 in Defaults.py. I >just set it to 0, didn't even think about looking in t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-22 Thread Young, Darren
> The text/plain attachment was allowed, but the message was too big. I > trimmed the attachment leaving only a few relevant parts. See my > comments inline and at the end. I had a feeling it would be one or the other. > > >[...] > >drwxrwsr-x 2 rootmailman 4096 Jan 20 12:26 perl-ad-manager-

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Young, Darren wrote: > >There's a lot in there so I attached it. Not sure if this list allows >attachments but I'll try here anyways. The text/plain attachment was allowed, but the message was too big. I trimmed the attachment leaving only a few relevant parts. See my comments inline and at the e

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-22 Thread Young, Darren
There's a lot in there so I attached it. Not sure if this list allows attachments but I'll try here anyways. > -Original Message- > From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:04 AM > To: Young, Darren; mailman-users@python.org > Subject: RE: [Mailman-

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-22 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > > > Hopefully Gmane waits for the reply to the list email before it > > > "accepts" the post. > > > >I'm not sure what you're asking, > > I think what John wants to happen is the following. Whether it actually > works this way or not, I don't know, but I think it migh

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Mark Sapiro writes: > > > This is all irrelevant. Since the posts from Gmane are arriving via the > > NNTP gateway, no membership tests whatsoever are applied to the post - > > no list member, no moderation, no *_these_nonmembers. > >Are you sure? The way I read > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >John Fitzsimons writes: > > > >This message was delivered by email from Gmane to mailman. It was > > >apperently posted via NNTP to Gmane by the poster and then mailed by > > >Gmane to the list. > > > > Hopefully Gmane waits for the reply to the list email before it >