Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
John Fitzsimons writes: > >This message was delivered by email from Gmane to mailman. It was > >apperently posted via NNTP to Gmane by the poster and then mailed by > >Gmane to the list. > > Hopefully Gmane waits for the reply to the list email before it > "accepts" the post. I'm not sure

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > This is all irrelevant. Since the posts from Gmane are arriving via the > NNTP gateway, no membership tests whatsoever are applied to the post - > no list member, no moderation, no *_these_nonmembers. Are you sure? The way I read Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: > >This is a Mailman bug. > [...] > >I fixed that, but the fix didn't take into account the ".mbox" URLs, >hence the bug that you see, and you have to log in first, then go to >the correct URL. I have committed a fix for this and updated the original bug report at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:17:32 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: >John Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Mark, < snip > >This message was delivered by email from Gmane to mailman. It was >apperently posted via NNTP to Gmane by the poster and then mailed by >Gmane to the list. Hopefully Gmane waits for the reply to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Fitzsimons wrote: > >Worked perfectly ! Thank you. Is this all you need ? > >>From gcf-myl...@m.gmane.org Thu Jan 21 00:10:24 2010 >Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) > by panda.hostingbay.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) > (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) > id 1N

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Fitzsimons wrote: >On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:18:10 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >>This is all irrelevant. Since the posts from Gmane are arriving via the >>NNTP gateway, no membership tests whatsoever are applied to the post - >>no list member, no moderation, no *_these_nonmembers. Actually, t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:21:49 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: >John Fitzsimons wrote: < snip > >I don't know why this is so hard, but the URL is >http://mydomain/mailman/private/mymailinglist_mydomain.mbox/mymailinglist_mydomain.mbox >Try that one. Worked perfectly ! Thank you. Is this all you need

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:18:10 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: >John Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Mark, >>On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:28:57 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>Could you please clarify those words ? " *If* Gmane is in the Sender >>header". The sender header appears to be the list address. >This is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on multiple web and mail servers

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Guy wrote: > >I've been going through the archives and I've picked up bits and pieces of >the information I need, but in most cases NFS is discussed. >I've got 5 Ubuntu servers, 2 postfix mail gateways (MXs for all our domains) >and 3 apache web servers. All of those have access to an ISCSI SAN wit

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Fitzsimons wrote: > >(4) I now put the following address in... > >http://mydomain/mailman/private/mymailinglist_mydomain/mymailinglist_mydomain.mbox/mymailinglist_mydomain.mbox > >and get... > >"Private archive file not found" I don't know why this is so hard, but the URL is http://mydomai

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:09:20 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>If I do what you did above and use .. >>http://mydomain/mailman/private/mymailinglist/mymailinglist.mbox/mymailinglist.mbox >>I get "No such list" mymailinglist. >As I have tried to say before, >>>where mydomain is your host name and m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Random email failures

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lou Covey wrote: >We run several lists for a non-profit organization on Mailman and in a >couple of the groups, we have somewhat random failures. With some of >the members, they cannot receive emails sent to the lists, even though >they are on the lists. Some of the members can receive ema

[Mailman-Users] Random email failures

2010-01-21 Thread Lou Covey
We run several lists for a non-profit organization on Mailman and in a couple of the groups, we have somewhat random failures. With some of the members, they cannot receive emails sent to the lists, even though they are on the lists. Some of the members can receive emails, but cannot send

[Mailman-Users] Mailman on multiple web and mail servers

2010-01-21 Thread Guy
Hi, I've been going through the archives and I've picked up bits and pieces of the information I need, but in most cases NFS is discussed. I've got 5 Ubuntu servers, 2 postfix mail gateways (MXs for all our domains) and 3 apache web servers. All of those have access to an ISCSI SAN with OCFS2 part

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
William Bagwell wrote: > >Tried your 'corrected' link in a diffrent browser, got the authentication >page, logged in with user name and password and promptly got the "Private >archive file not found" error again. Looked at the URL and it was now >missing the first .mbox. Opened a new tab, pasted

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Fitzsimons wrote: >On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:28:57 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >Could you please clarify those words ? " *If* Gmane is in the Sender >header". The sender header appears to be the list address. This is all irrelevant. Since the posts from Gmane are arriving via the NNTP

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Fitzsimons wrote: > >If I do what you did above and use .. > >http://mydomain/mailman/private/mymailinglist/mymailinglist.mbox/mymailinglist.mbox > >I get "No such list" mymailinglist. As I have tried to say before, >>where mydomain is your host name and mymailinglist is the cPanel list >>n

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:29:50 -0500, William Bagwell wrote: >On Wednesday 20 January 2010, William Bagwell wrote: >> On Wednesday 20 January 2010, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> > John Fitzsimons wrote: < snip > >> > It translates to >> > http://mydomain/mailman/private/mymailinglist/mymailinglist.mbox/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread William Bagwell
On Wednesday 20 January 2010, William Bagwell wrote: > On Wednesday 20 January 2010, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > John Fitzsimons wrote: > > >Private archive file not found > > > > It translates to > > > > http://mydomain/mailman/private/mymailinglist/mymailinglist.mbox/myma > >il inglist.mbox > > > > wh

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:28:57 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >John Fitzsimons writes: Hi Stephen, < snip > > > >Gmane runs a news server, but that is not how it gateways mailing > > >lists. Mailman's Mail<->News gateway is irrelevant unless you or your > > >ISP has configured it; Gmane can'

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Young, Darren wrote: >> What is the timestamp if you do "ls -ld" here? > >[r...@bushlms01 archive]# pwd >/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/archive >[r...@bushlms01 archive]# ls -ld >drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Jan 20 16:04 . So your messages are reaching the archive queue (because it is being upda

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can you help me?

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Melodie Reagan wrote: >Your help please. I'm trying to use this tool through hostgator and have >set-up and email list; however, it won't let me do anything with it because >it says. What does this mean and what should I do, or can you direct me to >documentation. Thank you! It is going to be ha

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Fitzsimons wrote: >On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:38:23 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >>Gmane runs a news server, but that is not how it gateways mailing >>lists. Mailman's Mail<->News gateway is irrelevant unless you or your >>ISP has configured it; Gmane can't do that for you. > >Well, I co

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
John Fitzsimons writes: > On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:38:23 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > >John Fitzsimons writes: > > Hi Stephen, > > < snip > > > >Gmane runs a news server, but that is not how it gateways mailing > >lists. Mailman's Mail<->News gateway is irrelevant unless you

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-21 Thread Young, Darren
> What is the timestamp if you do "ls -ld" here? [r...@bushlms01 archive]# pwd /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/archive [r...@bushlms01 archive]# ls -ld drwxrws--- 2 mailman mailman 4096 Jan 20 16:04 . > I don't think any of this has anything to do with your archiving > problem. To summarize, > - for th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Young, Darren wrote: >Yea, ArchRunner is running: > >[r...@bushlms01 archive]# ps -eaf | grep -i arch >mailman 2090 2077 0 Jan20 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python >/usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s OK >/usr/local/mailman/qfiles/archive is empty: > >[r...@bushlms01 a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
William Bagwell writes: > On Thursday 21 January 2010, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > The only control you have is to use Mailman filters on incoming posts. > > Until somebody tells us what headers Gmane provides to identify > > itself, we can only guess at what might work. > > X-Injected-Vi

[Mailman-Users] Can you help me?

2010-01-21 Thread Melodie Reagan
Your help please. I'm trying to use this tool through hostgator and have set-up and email list; however, it won't let me do anything with it because it says. What does this mean and what should I do, or can you direct me to documentation. Thank you! There currently are no publicly-advertised Ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 21, 2010, at 02:26 AM, John Fitzsimons wrote: >I am not sure whether you could get/see the source code for either of >these BUT in any case they might give you a few ideas. Even though not >exactly what we have been discussing. > >http://henmedia.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:38:23 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >John Fitzsimons writes: Hi Stephen, < snip > >Gmane runs a news server, but that is not how it gateways mailing >lists. Mailman's Mail<->News gateway is irrelevant unless you or your >ISP has configured it; Gmane can't do that fo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-21 Thread Young, Darren
> Just picking up on something, did you enable archiving before a > post has been sent; i.e., has archiving been set before >1 message > has been sent to the list? > Yep, it was enabled first. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-21 Thread Young, Darren
Yea, ArchRunner is running: [r...@bushlms01 archive]# ps -eaf | grep -i arch mailman 2090 2077 0 Jan20 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/archive is empty: [r...@bushlms01 archive]# pwd /usr/local/mailman/qfi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-21 Thread William Bagwell
On Thursday 21 January 2010, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > The only control you have is to use Mailman filters on incoming posts. > Until somebody tells us what headers Gmane provides to identify > itself, we can only guess at what might work. X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Seems to be th