Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
John Fitzsimons writes: > Well, has anyone here with a Gmane newsgroup deleted the Gmane email > subscription and seen whether Mailman's Mail<->News gateway sends > messages in both directions okay ? Gmane runs a news server, but that is not how it gateways mailing lists. Mailman's Mail<->New

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-20 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:12:08 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: >John Fitzsimons wrote: < snip > >>In other words, does anyone here know whether the Gmane subscription >>is needed ? >Presumably it is needed if you are gatewaing from Mailman to Gmane >because that's how messages get to Gmane from Mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-20 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:47:09 -0500, Terri Oda wrote: >John Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Terri, >> I have also contributed to public, and private, newsgroup servers for >> more than ten years now. However, I am not a unix expert and I do >> not have root access to a unix server. >Incidentally, if th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Fitzsimons wrote: >On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:51:21 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >>John Fitzsimons wrote: > >< snip > > >>>If I try your address I think it would translate to.. > >>>http://mydomain/mailman/private/mymailinglist/mymailinglist/.mbox > >>>I then get.. > >>>xxmailinglist Private

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-20 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:51:21 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: >John Fitzsimons wrote: < snip > >>If I try your address I think it would translate to.. >>http://mydomain/mailman/private/mymailinglist/mymailinglist/.mbox >>I then get.. >>xxmailinglist Private Archives Authentication >>Then... >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
William Bagwell wrote: >On Wednesday 20 January 2010, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> It translates to >> >> http://mydomain/mailman/private/mymailinglist/mymailinglist.mbox/mymailinglist.mbox >> >> where mydomain is your host name and mymailinglist is the cPanel list >> name of the form listname_mydomai

Re: [Mailman-Users] move messages

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dave Filchak wrote: > >Is it possible to move just the messages and archive from one list to >another? This would be the same instance of Mailman on the same server >(obviously). The cleanest way to do this is to stop Mailman and then move the messages from the one list's archives/private/list1

[Mailman-Users] move messages

2010-01-20 Thread Dave Filchak
Hi, Is it possible to move just the messages and archive from one list to another? This would be the same instance of Mailman on the same server (obviously). Cheers Dave -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.pyt

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-20 Thread William Bagwell
On Wednesday 20 January 2010, Mark Sapiro wrote: > John Fitzsimons wrote: > >Private archive file not found > > It translates to > > http://mydomain/mailman/private/mymailinglist/mymailinglist.mbox/mymail >inglist.mbox > > where mydomain is your host name and mymailinglist is the cPanel list > nam

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Fitzsimons wrote: > >If I try your address I think it would translate to.. > >http://mydomain/mailman/private/mymailinglist/mymailinglist/.mbox > >I then get.. > >xxmailinglist Private Archives Authentication > >Then... > >Private archive file not found It translates to http://mydomain

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-20 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:31:06 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: >John Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Mark, < snip > >>>I think you can see a full, raw message from Gmane if your list has >>>archives. For a cPanel list x...@example.com, you would go to >>>http://example.com/mailman/private/xyz_example.com.mbox/xy

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Fitzsimons wrote: >On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:42:43 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >>John Fitzsimons wrote: > >>>Does anyone here know what actually goes to Mailman from Gmane ? > >>I think you are in the best position to answer that. > >Er. No. I don't. I don't have root access to my hosted server

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-20 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:42:43 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: >John Fitzsimons wrote: >>Does anyone here know what actually goes to Mailman from Gmane ? >I think you are in the best position to answer that. Er. No. I don't. I don't have root access to my hosted server, and have no idea where my Mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-20 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 01:38:49PM -0600, Young, Darren wrote: > I've enabled archives on a mailing list with the following: > archive = yes > archive_private = public > However, in /usr/local/mailman/archives/public there's no directories > and in the browser I get a URL not found error. I've pos

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Young, Darren wrote: > Not much, close in all of them: As I said in another recent reply - "If I had a nickel for every time I didn't realize the obvious ..." :) Is ArchRunner running? What's in /usr/local/mailman/qfiles/archive? > The only one that sticks out but was earlier: > > Jan 20 12:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-20 Thread Young, Darren
Not much, close in all of them: [r...@bushlms01 logs]# grep 'Jan 20 12:4' * bounce:Jan 20 12:41:33 2009 (1416) processing 1 queued bounces error:Jan 20 12:47:42 2009 (9809) admin.py access for non-existent list: daily-job-postings error:Jan 20 12:47:50 2009 (9813) admin.py access for non-existen

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Young, Darren wrote: >The only thing in mailman/archive/private/perl-ad-manager-users is the >index.html. Not much in the logs: > >[r...@bushlms01 logs]# grep perl-ad * This string won't appear in the error log entries. What's in Mailman's error log with timestamps close to these post log entri

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-20 Thread Young, Darren
The only thing in mailman/archive/private/perl-ad-manager-users is the index.html. Not much in the logs: [r...@bushlms01 logs]# grep perl-ad * post:Jan 20 12:42:44 2010 (2095) post to perl-ad-manager-users from darren.yo...@chicagobooth.edu, size=5878, message-id=<07a371d457b501478c1db3c3de8372d70

Re: [Mailman-Users] Listinfo columns - can I wrap text

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Tim Van Dyne wrote: >I figured it out. Great! >I didn't realize the obvious "If I had a nickel for every time I didn't realize the obvious ..." :) -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Young, Darren wrote: >I've enabled archives on a mailing list with the following: >archive = yes >archive_private = public >archive_volume_frequency = Monthly [...] >However, in /usr/local/mailman/archives/public there's no directories >and in the browser I get a URL not found error. I've posted a

[Mailman-Users] Archives

2010-01-20 Thread Young, Darren
I've enabled archives on a mailing list with the following: archive = yes archive_private = public archive_volume_frequency = Monthly And the /pipermail/ URL points to /usr/local/mailman/archives/public (httpd.conf stuff): ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/" Alias /pipermail/ /usr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Listinfo columns - can I wrap text

2010-01-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Tim Van Dyne writes: > This made everything look so much better. Small victory, but we > celebrated :) So should we all! Lord, I love open source! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Listinfo columns - can I wrap text

2010-01-20 Thread Tim Van Dyne
I figured it out. I didn't realize the obvious which was that it wouldn't wrap no matter what I did to the table because it's one long string due to the underscores_. So after some digging (nobody here knows Python), we added the replace function to the output name to remove the under_scores and r

Re: [Mailman-Users] Listinfo columns - can I wrap text

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Tim Van Dyne wrote: >Does anyone know of a way that I can hardcode the size of the columns >and wrap the list name text? > >I'm running into the issue where some list names are lengthy and the >description text is getting smashed to the right, primarily because we >have our mailman page wrapped in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
John Fitzsimons wrote: > >Does anyone here know what actually goes to Mailman from Gmane ? I think you are in the best position to answer that. >(1) Is it simply an email, with Gmane as the sender ? With no mention >of the newsgroup poster in any of the headers ? I assume it is an email unles

[Mailman-Users] Listinfo columns - can I wrap text

2010-01-20 Thread Tim Van Dyne
Does anyone know of a way that I can hardcode the size of the columns and wrap the list name text? I'm running into the issue where some list names are lengthy and the description text is getting smashed to the right, primarily because we have our mailman page wrapped into our site's frame. I not

[Mailman-Users] GNU Mailman 3 alpha 5

2010-01-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Clare Redstone writes: > I don't know enough about how new releases are named. Does alpha mean this > Mailman 3 is now ready for general use? Should I ask my host provider to > move us to it? I'm a bog-standard user so not ready for something that is > still going through early tests and doesn

Re: [Mailman-Users] GNU Mailman 3 alpha 5

2010-01-20 Thread Terri Oda
The short answer is no, you do not want to ask for an upgrade yet. An alpha release is an early one, prior to the product being ready for all users. Wikipedia has a reasonable page explaining how software releases are often named: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_release Terri Clare Red

[Mailman-Users] GNU Mailman 3 alpha 5

2010-01-20 Thread Clare Redstone
Hi, I don't know enough about how new releases are named. Does alpha mean this Mailman 3 is now ready for general use? Should I ask my host provider to move us to it? I'm a bog-standard user so not ready for something that is still going through early tests and doesn't have everything set up ye

Re: [Mailman-Users] Routing Email Error

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael O'Connell wrote: >Can you Please check as to why I am receiving ALL >trialmembers...@fillerupclub.com to my email address. The emails are for >people to be removed from the trialmembership and are very hostile. I do >not own this fillerupclub email. And neither do we. Someone else wrote

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-20 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:35:32 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: >On Jan 20, 2010, at 03:11 PM, John Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Barry, < snip > >Hey, if there's stuff we can steal or integrate with, all the better! I have >a saying: "the best bass amp there is, is the one you don't have to bring". :) I am

Re: [Mailman-Users] question

2010-01-20 Thread Mark Sapiro
sheryl maris wrote: >We currently use Lyris for mailing lists. With Lyris we are able to >automate the subscription of users to lists by directly updating tables in >the MS SQL db. What methods programmatic administration does mailman >provide? MM 3 will have a true user database which can

Re: [Mailman-Users] Routing Email Error

2010-01-20 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 05:58:21AM -0500, Michael O'Connell wrote: > Can you Please check as to why I am receiving ALL > trialmembers...@fillerupclub.com to my email address. The emails are for > people to be removed from the trialmembership and are very hostile. I do > not own this fillerupclub e

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automate

2010-01-20 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 02:08:43PM -0800, Maris, Sheryl wrote: > We currently use Lyris for mailing lists. With Lyris we are able > to automate the subscription of users to lists by directly updating > tables in the MS SQL db. What methods programmatic administration > does mailman provide?

[Mailman-Users] question

2010-01-20 Thread sheryl maris
We currently use Lyris for mailing lists. With Lyris we are able to automate the subscription of users to lists by directly updating tables in the MS SQL db. What methods programmatic administration does mailman provide? Aslo, how can we query reports? -

[Mailman-Users] Routing Email Error

2010-01-20 Thread Michael O'Connell
Can you Please check as to why I am receiving ALL trialmembers...@fillerupclub.com to my email address. The emails are for people to be removed from the trialmembership and are very hostile. I do not own this fillerupclub email. Thank you. -- Ma

[Mailman-Users] Automate

2010-01-20 Thread Maris, Sheryl
We currently use Lyris for mailing lists. With Lyris we are able to automate the subscription of users to lists by directly updating tables in the MS SQL db. What methods programmatic administration does mailman provide? -- Mailman-Users