Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-19 Thread Terri Oda
John Fitzsimons wrote: I have also contributed to public, and private, newsgroup servers for more than ten years now. However, I am not a unix expert and I do not have root access to a unix server. Incidentally, if the problem is just one of access to a unix machine, the Systers group had a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-19 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:35:32 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: >On Jan 20, 2010, at 03:11 PM, John Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Barry, >>Yes, but there are "resources" for people to create web forums. >>"Resources" for people to create emailers. "Resources" for people to >>create bloggs etc. >I mean "people

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 19, 2010, at 08:23 PM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: >On 1/19/2010 8:11 PM, John Fitzsimons wrote: > >> If you mean that Mailman could provide NNTP access to it's message >> store then that would be great !!! > >Here's the catch- mailman is a mailing list manager (or remailer, if you >prefer), not a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 20, 2010, at 03:11 PM, John Fitzsimons wrote: >Hi Barry, Hi John, >Yes, but there are "resources" for people to create web forums. >"Resources" for people to create emailers. "Resources" for people to >create bloggs etc. I mean "people to hack code". :) >> I like Gmane personally, but I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-19 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 1/19/2010 8:11 PM, John Fitzsimons wrote: If you mean that Mailman could provide NNTP access to it's message store then that would be great !!! Here's the catch- mailman is a mailing list manager (or remailer, if you prefer), not a message storage system, so it doesn't -have- a persistent

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-19 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:23:17 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: >On Jan 20, 2010, at 11:14 AM, John Fitzsimons wrote: Hi Barry, >>It is a pity that nobody in the open source community is interested in >>creating an NNTP server that someone, who isn't a unix expert, could >>install on a "hosted" web sit

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-19 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:57:33 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >John Fitzsimons writes: < snip > > > I shouldn't have got that second email, or had my newsgroup post > > forwarded to the newsgroup. > > Can anyone here suggest where the problem may be please ? >List membership is easy to spoof

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 20, 2010, at 11:14 AM, John Fitzsimons wrote: >It is a pity that nobody in the open source community is interested in >creating an NNTP server that someone, who isn't a unix expert, could >install on a "hosted" web site. :-( I wouldn't say no one is interested, but there doesn't seem to b

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
John Fitzsimons writes: > >List membership is easy to spoof anyway. > > Umm. I was beginning to wonder about that. I am familiar with usenet > spoofing but hadn't thought deeply enough about that situation in > email. :-( > > If I understand you correctly then anyone can post to any un

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-19 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:57:33 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >John Fitzsimons writes: Hi Stephen, > > Then I got the next Gmane email... > > "You are now authorized to post to the > > xx newsgroup." etc. > > I shouldn't have got that second email, or had my newsgroup post

Re: [Mailman-Users] List information templates - offer of help

2010-01-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 19, 2010, at 02:58 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >We would welcome your help on the web interface for MM 3. A new >interface will be built from the ground up. Perhaps Barry can suggest >some ways for you to be involved. Mark's exactly right. Lindsay is too! ;) I'd say the first thing to do is t

Re: [Mailman-Users] List information templates - offer of help

2010-01-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lindsay Haisley wrote: >I just did a bit of work on the English listinfo.html template for one >of my lists (Mailman 2.1.12). It's been a while since I worked on one >of these, but I note that the HTML is a terrible mess, and years out of >date with current standards and best practice for HTML co

[Mailman-Users] List information templates - offer of help

2010-01-19 Thread Lindsay Haisley
I just did a bit of work on the English listinfo.html template for one of my lists (Mailman 2.1.12). It's been a while since I worked on one of these, but I note that the HTML is a terrible mess, and years out of date with current standards and best practice for HTML composition. This may work in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Puzzle Regarding Sender Header

2010-01-19 Thread David Eisner
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Your MTA is rewriting the domain in the Sender: header. The FAQ at > might be relevant. This puts me on the right track: Sendmail is definitely rewriting the headers. I verified this by sending a message from th

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-i18n] RELEASED GNU Mailman 3.0 alpha 5 (Distant Early Warning)

2010-01-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 19, 2010, at 04:17 PM, Marcos wrote: >Must be the Asturian language in the version 3? :) >Can you confirm if is it an error, please? >Thanks very much! There is currently only English in Mailman 3. We'll begin to do translations on Launchpad, but I haven't hooked all that up yet. It's on

[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-19 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
John Fitzsimons writes: > Then I got the next Gmane email... > > "You are now authorized to post to the > xx newsgroup." etc. > > I shouldn't have got that second email, or had my newsgroup post > forwarded to the newsgroup. > Can anyone here suggest where the problem ma

[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

2010-01-19 Thread John Fitzsimons
I am hoping that someone here has an account with Gmane. This is what I did. Doing beta testing. I posted to my newsgroup from an address that is NOT on my mailing list. I then got the Gmane "Authorization required " email which starts.. This is a non-public mailing list, which means that you

[Mailman-Users] RELEASED GNU Mailman 3.0 alpha 5 (Distant Early Warning)

2010-01-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hello everyone, welcome to 2010 and another Mailman 3 alpha release. I'm happy to announce Mailman 3.0 alpha 5. New in this release are additional REST API methods for subscribing and unsubscribing email addresses to mailing lists, and for listing all members of all mailing lists. Mailman also p