Re: [Mailman-Users] NNTP server for "local" newsgroups ?

2009-12-23 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 09:10:28AM +1100, John Fitzsimons wrote: > No idea why someone wanting a mailing list manager would NOT like to > have additional functionality. If it were an option. Function-creep/bloatware, things getting too big for their own boots? I like small things. If I want extra

Re: [Mailman-Users] NNTP server for "local" newsgroups ?

2009-12-23 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 23, 2009, at 02:57 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: >Making the leap to requiring the use of a Mailman >rolled NNTP server is (IMHO) extremely arrogant. Offering an optional >program that has been "tested to work with" (tm) is something completely >different and acceptable. No, Mailman will not

Re: [Mailman-Users] NNTP server for "local" newsgroups ?

2009-12-23 Thread John Fitzsimons
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:57:49 -0600, Grant Taylor wrote: >On 12/22/09 22:24, John Fitzsimons wrote: >> Okay, IF an NNTP setup were part of Mailman then that would IMO >> encourage a huge number of hosters, that currently install Mailman, >> to consider opening that port. Particularly as you cou

Re: [Mailman-Users] NNTP server for "local" newsgroups ?

2009-12-23 Thread Grant Taylor
On 12/22/09 22:24, John Fitzsimons wrote: Okay, IF an NNTP setup were part of Mailman then that would IMO encourage a huge number of hosters, that currently install Mailman, to consider opening that port. Particularly as you could put in the installation documents that the Mailman NNTP facility

Re: [Mailman-Users] Increasing the Speed of Email Delivery

2009-12-23 Thread Brad Knowles
On Dec 23, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Derrick Wooden wrote: > I'm well aware that SMTP doesn't mean instant. Regretfully, you are the exception. Most people don't seem to get this concept -- even people like my wife, and I've been trying to pound this one into her brain for ten years. > I'm just looki

Re: [Mailman-Users] Increasing the Speed of Email Delivery

2009-12-23 Thread Derrick Wooden
I'm well aware that SMTP doesn't mean instant. I'm just looking at a solution that can cut 1E6 emails being delivered in 12 hours down to say 4 hours. With a fast server, correct MTA optimization and proper Mailman setup could this be attainable? The Barack Obama email campaign used Postfix f

Re: [Mailman-Users] Increasing the Speed of Email Delivery

2009-12-23 Thread Brad Knowles
On Dec 23, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Derrick Wooden wrote: > Brad, upon reading this thread again you are correct. It was NOT implied > that MySQL would speed up email delivery, but rather MySQL would be a better > database solution. As a database, yes -- MySQL is better at that job than using Python "

Re: [Mailman-Users] Increasing the Speed of Email Delivery

2009-12-23 Thread Derrick Wooden
Brad Knowles-3 wrote: > I don't know of any way that MySQL would factor into this discussion. Can > you provide a reference? Brad, upon reading this thread again you are correct. It was NOT implied that MySQL would speed up email delivery, but rather MySQL would be a better database solution.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman < > forum ?

2009-12-23 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 23, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Barry Warsaw writes: > >> Mailman 3 is already more flexibly w.r.t. archivers, in the sense >> that we define an interface between Mailman and generic archiver, >> and then implement a number of modules to support everything from >> Piper

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman < > forum ?

2009-12-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: > Mailman 3 is already more flexibly w.r.t. archivers, in the sense > that we define an interface between Mailman and generic archiver, > and then implement a number of modules to support everything from > Pipermail to mail-archive.com to MHonArc. We should take the same

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman < > forum ?

2009-12-23 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 23, 2009, at 5:50 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Barry Warsaw writes: >> On Dec 22, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: >> >>> Please - not to start a 'distro' war, but if work is going to be done, I >>> hope it will be done in a modular fashion so that other forum software >>> (with a pl

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman moderation

2009-12-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lucafr wrote: >I have a mailing list with mailman 2.1.5: the list is moderate and I would >like that the alert sent by mailman were not every day but in real time (I >would like the admin will receive the alert everytime somebody send a >message to the list). Go to the web admin interface Genera

[Mailman-Users] mailman moderation

2009-12-23 Thread Lucafr
Hi all I have a mailing list with mailman 2.1.5: the list is moderate and I would like that the alert sent by mailman were not every day but in real time (I would like the admin will receive the alert everytime somebody send a message to the list). Someone know if it is possinle and how? Thanks in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Increasing the Speed of Email Delivery

2009-12-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Bernd Petrovitsch writes: > On Don, 2009-12-17 at 17:04 -0800, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > > Lots of it depends on the MTA (general opinion is that postfix seems to be > > the fastest), connectivity, and list settings (personalized email will > > take > Do I take the flame bait?;-) > > Whateve

Re: [Mailman-Users] Increasing the Speed of Email Delivery

2009-12-23 Thread Luigi Rosa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bernd Petrovitsch said the following on 23/12/09 11:20: > a) Email/SMTP never was anywhere near "realtime" (though many people >expect mails to be delivered in seconds), Unfortunately, too much users tend to forget this basic concept: SMTP is not

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman < > forum ?

2009-12-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Barry Warsaw writes: > On Dec 22, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > > > Please - not to start a 'distro' war, but if work is going to be done, I > > hope it will be done in a modular fashion so that other forum software > > (with a plugin architecture) will be able to work with it. > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Increasing the Speed of Email Delivery

2009-12-23 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Don, 2009-12-17 at 17:04 -0800, Carl Zwanzig wrote: > Lots of it depends on the MTA (general opinion is that postfix seems to be > the fastest), connectivity, and list settings (personalized email will take Do I take the flame bait?;-) Whatever you understand in detail under a "fast MTA" (and