Re: [Mailman-Users] Warnings from senddigests

Jesper Dybdal wrote: > >I think you've diagnosed the problem. There is a pythonlib directory, >but it is empty. Note that the Debian/Ubuntu Mailman package deletes mailman/pythonlib/ Mark Sapiro replied to a posting Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:48:30 -0800: >Some additional information: > >This is mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Disarmed} Re: Automatic bounceprocessing; listname-bouncesvs. listname-bounces+XXXX

John Wesley Simpson Hibbs wrote: > >That was the culprit... I see my +VERP's now, although they look >somewhat different from what I remember. >Now I see my address in the VERP, where before I saw long numeric >strings. >At any rate, this looks like it's fixed now. >I'll post back when I know for s

Re: [Mailman-Users] The economics of spam

On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Mark Sapiro wrote: > That's not an apt analogy. The issue here is not whether a system can > be developed that would require mail delivery to be paid for. The See: http://www.hashcash.org/ //alif -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin_at_mfn.org 0xpgp_key_mgmt_is_broken-dont_bo

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Disarmed} Re: Automatic bounce processing; listname-bouncesvs. listname-bounces+XXXX

John Wesley Simpson Hibbs wrote: > >On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 08:36 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> Is it only password reminders that you are seeing as unrecognized >> bounces? > >No... I've appended one that was not a password reminder to the end of this >post. > [...] > >I just now appended (per yo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Warnings from senddigests

Jesper Dybdal wrote: > >I think you've diagnosed the problem. There is a pythonlib directory, >but it is empty. > >I built Mailman as user "root" (knowing perfectly well that this is not >the thing to do unless you choose to trust your software providers), but >I ran "make install" as user "mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Warnings from senddigests

On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:19:17 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: >I'm not sure about the digests problem. You could try 'bin/withlist -i' >and then at the >>> prompt type > >unicode('abcde', 'iso-8859-15') > >if this prints > >u'abcde' > >Mailman is able to access the iso-8859-15 codecs and there should be

Re: [Mailman-Users] The economics of spam

Jan Steinman wrote: >> From: Rich Kulawiec >> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:15:43AM -0800, Jan Steinman wrote: >>> I would willingly pay a hundredth of a cent (or so) per email sent >>> if it >>> would reduce spam to near-zero. >> >> This is a thoroughly-discredited, utterly broken idea... base

Re: [Mailman-Users] The economics of spam

From: Rich Kulawiec On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:15:43AM -0800, Jan Steinman wrote: I would willingly pay a hundredth of a cent (or so) per email sent if it would reduce spam to near-zero. This is a thoroughly-discredited, utterly broken idea... based on the ludicrous notion that abusers..

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.x Roadmap

Barry has been making wonderful progress with Mailman 3.0 and has just announced the second alpha release. This may leave some of you wondering what's happening with the Mailman 2.x series, so this note is for all interested Mailman users, developers and translators to give an idea of what to expe

[Mailman-Users] ANNOUNCE: GNU Mailman 3.0a2 (Grand Designs)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mailpersons, I'm happy to announce the availability of GNU Mailman version 3.0 alpha 2, code name "Grand Designs". Of course, this is still an alpha snapshot and not suitable for production systems, however there is a lot of good function

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

Jesper Dybdal wrote: > >I am afraid there is nothing "official" about any home I can give to >anything. Post the patch and a brief write-up to the tracker at . -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter us

Re: [Mailman-Users] Warnings from senddigests

Jesper Dybdal wrote: > >On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:51:10 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >>Mailman 2.1.11 is not compatible with Python 2.6. Most of the errors >>are deprecation warnings similar to those above and also involving >>hashlib. You'll probably find lots more in Mailman's error log. > >Now I'm c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Warnings from senddigests

On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:51:33 +0100, I wrote: >I currently have to digest subscribers, so I don't know if this a real >problem. That should have been "*no* digest subscribers" - sorry. On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:51:10 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: >Mailman 2.1.11 is not compatible with Python 2.6. Most

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

[My apologies to Fil for first sending this to him only - it was intended for the list] On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:29:19 +0100, Fil wrote: >One thing to note: local addresses such as mine (f...@rezo.net is >defined in /etc/postfix/virtual as an alias for rec...@gmail.com) will >be VERPed to test-boun

Re: [Mailman-Users] Warnings from senddigests

Jesper Dybdal wrote: >I've just installed Mailman version 2.1.11. > >In general, it works fine. Given the below, I'm surprised. >Whenever my mailman cron job runs senddigests, I get the following >warnings (on stdout or stderr, mailed to me by cron): > >>/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

Another difference to mention in the README is that the postfix logs will show the normal (unVERPed) addresses instead of the VERPed addresses: Jan 3 16:28:09 alan postfix/qmgr[17364]: 4754D3B05C7: from=, size=3082, nrcpt=4 (queue active) Jan 3 16:28:10 alan postfix/smtp[27894]: 4754D3B05C7:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Jesper Dybdal wrote: > VERP_PROBES = Yes > VERP_PASSWORD_REMINDERS = Yes > VERP_PERSONALIZED_DELIVERIES = Yes > VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 > VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes > VERP_STYLE = 'Postfix' Yay, it works, takk. One thing to note: local addresses such as mine (f..

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

Hi Fil, On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:07:20 +0100, Fil wrote: >I've done the following, with little success so far: >1) applied your patch to Mailman/Defaults.py and Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py >2) added the 2 configuration lines in Mailman/mm_cfg.py >3) restarted mailman :-) >4) added to /etc/postfi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

Hi Jesper, I've done the following, with little success so far: 1) applied your patch to Mailman/Defaults.py and Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py 2) added the 2 configuration lines in Mailman/mm_cfg.py 3) restarted mailman :-) 4) added to /etc/postfixmain.cf the line smtpd_authorized_verp_clients

[Mailman-Users] Patch for use of Postfix VERP support

I've just installed Mailman version 2.1.11. I was surprised to find that the standard distribution had no support for the Postfix VERP feature, which can create VERP return paths much more efficiently than when Mailman does it itself. I did find a patch for the FreeBSD port of an earlier Mailman

[Mailman-Users] Warnings from senddigests

I've just installed Mailman version 2.1.11. In general, it works fine. Whenever my mailman cron job runs senddigests, I get the following warnings (on stdout or stderr, mailed to me by cron): >/home/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py:192: DeprecationWarning: get_type() >deprecated; use get_co