[Mailman-Users] The Mysterious Disappearing Disk Space (fwd)

2008-11-17 Thread J.A. Terranson
Greetings, I have looked through the archives for something similar to my issue, and I noticed that by searching on "disk full", I get similar reports beginning in roughly July of 08. As with these other reports, I have noticed *tremendous* disappearing space. When I tried to

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam gatewayed from Usenet to mail bypasses our spam filters

2008-11-17 Thread Brad Knowles
on 11/18/08 1:28 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull said: Well, you want to watch out for greylisting. But running them through SpamBayes from Mailman should be trivial. You could also add (with a slight performance hit) a Handler that calls out to SpamBayes, SpamAssassin, etc, only when the MTA didn't a

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam gatewayed from Usenet to mail bypasses our spam filters

2008-11-17 Thread Brad Knowles
on 11/17/08 11:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It might be easier to get Mailman's news-to-mail gateway to mail incoming Usenet messages to the list address instead of directly distributing them to the subscribers though. I don't believe Mailman does that out of the box (but I would love to be w

[Mailman-Users] spam gatewayed from Usenet to mail bypasses our spam filters

2008-11-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I still haven't figured out quite how to solve the problem. In > theory we could use some other tool to perform the gateway > operation. Instead of passing Usenet postings directly to Mailman > it would mail them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] where they would get > the sp

Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-bounces@

2008-11-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad Knowles writes: > VERP is available on Mailman 2.1.5, but it does have to be enabled in the > configuration file, before you can actually see the option in the web admin > UI for your list(s). OK, so that probably was a deliberate decision and won't fly on his ISP. > Which is actually

[Mailman-Users] spam gatewayed from Usenet to mail bypasses our spam filters

2008-11-17 Thread skip
With the help of the python.org postmasters I figured something out about spam on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list over the weekend. I was confused that some seemingly obvious spams made it through to the mailing list subscribers. Then I noticed that it didn't appear these spams had even seen

Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-bounces@

2008-11-17 Thread Grant Taylor
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: It's one of the "VERP" settings. While "true" VERP is done by the MTA, not by agents like Mailman, the basic idea is the same: to "personalize" various fields in the message so that the original that elicited a reply (including a bounce) can be identified. Um... P

Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-bounces@

2008-11-17 Thread Brad Knowles
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: The downside is performance, which is why VERP off is the default. That and the fact that not all MTAs support VERP at all, and some of the ones that do support VERP don't support it by default. So, we leave this option turned off by default. I'm still on Mailm

Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-bounces@

2008-11-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Michael Welch writes: > Right, that must be because this list's Sender: header does not > look like a real email address. I wonder why ours are different. It's one of the "VERP" settings. While "true" VERP is done by the MTA, not by agents like Mailman, the basic idea is the same: to "personal

[Mailman-Users] Securing My Mailman Lists

2008-11-17 Thread Jeff Bernier
Hello all, I have inherited a Mac Xserve server running Mailman from a support person that is no longer employed at our school. I have changed the Admin password on the server, and also changed (or thought I did) the Admin passwords for the Mailman lists as well. The old admin password is stil

Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-bounces@

2008-11-17 Thread Brad Knowles
Michael Welch wrote: Hi Brad. I did test it, hence "That does not work." Ahh, sorry. It wasn't clear to me that you had actually tested it or not. My bad. But I do appreciate the reminder, because I had intended to populate that particular autoresponder. And thanks to your note, I have mo

Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-bounces@

2008-11-17 Thread Michael Welch
Hi Brad. I did test it, hence "That does not work." But I do appreciate the reminder, because I had intended to populate that particular autoresponder. Brad Knowles wrote at 11:09 AM 11/17/2008: >Michael Welch wrote: > >>That does not work, I assume because the message to -owner is coming from

Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-bounces@

2008-11-17 Thread Brad Knowles
Michael Welch wrote: That does not work, I assume because the message to -owner is coming from -bounces and not from the original list member. So an autoresponder would be sent back to -bounces, which might actually create an endless loop (though I imagine Mailman traps for that). You are corr

Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-bounces@

2008-11-17 Thread Michael Welch
Brad Knowles wrote at 09:09 AM 11/17/2008: >Michael Welch wrote: > >>That means I end up having to do personal contact with way too many >>people to let them know that they did not use the correct address, so >>they need to resend. >>I notice that this list does not show me the real address in

Re: [Mailman-Users] One private archive not appearing online

2008-11-17 Thread Jewel
The index.html is blank! Not sure how long it's been that way. Is there a way to generate or create a new one? Mark Sapiro wrote: Jewel wrote: I have one list which won't display online the archives. I don't receive any web page error, it's just blank. I also have confirmed the archive

Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-bounces@

2008-11-17 Thread Barry Finkel
Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in reply, in part: >Over the several years I've been acting as one of the co-owners of this >list, I don't recall getting any messages being sent by users to >mailman-users-bounces. I have some Mailman lists, and if a recipient does a "reply-all" from a Blac

[Mailman-Users] appearance of member list (2.1.9)

2008-11-17 Thread Ralph Stahl
Hi, normally (?) the member list shows all members from A to Z at one page. I have seen a list, where a kind of "tabs" is above it with links "A"..."Z", and only the members with one of these letters are listet at one page. It seems to be not very useful to me, I'd like to change it to the "normal

[Mailman-Users] Securing My Mailman Lists

2008-11-17 Thread Jeff Bernier
Hello all, I have inherited a Mac Xserve server running Mailman from a support person that is no longer employed at our school. I have changed the Admin password on the server, and also changed (or thought I did) the Admin passwords for the Mailman lists as well. The old admin password is s

Re: [Mailman-Users] listname-bounces@

2008-11-17 Thread Brad Knowles
Michael Welch wrote: That means I end up having to do personal contact with way too many people to let them know that they did not use the correct address, so they need to resend. I notice that this list does not show me the real address in those headers, but rather something like: Sender: [EM

[Mailman-Users] Please trim your replies and edit your subject lines: (was: Re: Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 57, Issue 27)

2008-11-17 Thread Brad Knowles
Jon Hind wrote: You could set the reply address to the list address - in the web interface. It's shown as deprecated - but works well for me. If you're going to reply to a message from one of the digests, please make sure to trim your reply to include just the relevant text and to edit the s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 57, Issue 27

2008-11-17 Thread Jon Hind
You could set the reply address to the list address - in the web interface. It's shown as deprecated - but works well for me. Jon 2008/11/17 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Send Mailman-Users mailing list submissions to >mailman-users@python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide W