Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Brad Knowles
On 4/16/08, Jim Popovitch wrote: > I can appreciate the significance of that situation. I don't know > that I have a solution other than to ask what does ClamAV or > SpamAssassin do in similar situations? Dunno. Do they have to support twenty different languages? Can those translations only

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I appreciate your view Jim, and I was remis in not making patches for > 2.1.9 publicly announced and available[1], however, if you don't trust > my 2.1.10 beta or rc release to be stable enough for production use, > why

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Brad Knowles
If you want to do something that is actually productive here, why don't you find a way to use your own resources and your own personal free time to resolve this issue? Maybe you could run a very large mailing list server you'd be willing to use as a guinea pig for all RC's, so that we would

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jim Popovitch wrote: > >Fair enough. Where's the release then? > >Look, I know you folks are working hard on this, and I certainly don't >dis-respect that. HOWEVER, the process flow needs some re-thinking. >You should not publicly release security vulnerability details before >fixes are identifie

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Apr 15, 2008, at 8:49 PM, Dragon wrote: > My experience has been that by the time a release candidate is > announced > by this project, it is usually quite close to the final version and > the > only changes that are made in a stable release ar

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Fair enough. Where's the release then? > > > > Dragon is right -- the code is up-to-date and waiting for translation, as > do pretty much all RCs released by this project.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Brad Knowles
Quoting Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Fair enough. Where's the release then? Dragon is right -- the code is up-to-date and waiting for translation, as do pretty much all RCs released by this project. > Look, I know you folks are working hard on this, and I certainly don't > dis-respect

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Better to get a release out asap after that and let the community know > that there are important fixes contained within. Fair enough. Where's the release then? Look, I know you folks are working hard on this, and I cert

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Dragon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm going to be harshly critical as well. Did you even read the release > notes in the announcement? Yes, I did. > You are completely off base here. While Mark did not explicitly say so in > his reply, the fixes for the secu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Dragon
On Tue, April 15, 2008 16:24, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> There are two security issues mentioned in the announcement. > > > How much sense does it make to announce security issues in a release > CANDIDATE? Come on guys,

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam issue

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Luke Daly wrote: >I have a large list (22000) users. it is configured with the following >settings : >Action to take when a moderated member posts to the list. = Discard >Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit action is >defined. = Discard >All users are moderated exc

[Mailman-Users] spam issue

2008-04-15 Thread Luke Daly
I have a large list (22000) users. it is configured with the following settings : Action to take when a moderated member posts to the list. = Discard Action to take for postings from non-members for which no explicit action is defined. = Discard All users are moderated except where they are an ad

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are two security issues mentioned in the announcement. How much sense does it make to announce security issues in a release CANDIDATE? Come on guys, release a STABLE version (or FIX), then announce. <--- Standa

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachments

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Con Wieland wrote: > >On Apr 15, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> Con Wieland wrote: >> >>> My questions are, why am I getting the html attachments? >> >> >> Because the sender's MUA is sending them and your content filtering is >> either not on or is not removing HTML and not collapsing

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachments

2008-04-15 Thread Con Wieland
gt;> receive it as expected showing both the text and the attachment. When >> I go to the archives though I get the message text plus >> >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: http://maillists.uci.edu/mailman/public

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachments

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
When >I go to the archives though I get the message text plus > >-- next part -- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: http://maillists.uci.edu/mailman/public/test/attachments/ >20080415/846539df/attachment-0002.html >-- next part

Re: [Mailman-Users] "topics"

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: > >You can do this with a withlist script such as the set_topics.py.txt >script attached. You would save this in Mailman's bin/ directory as >set_topics.py and run it via > > bin/withlist -l -r set_topics [ ...]' Sorry, I forgot the attachment. Here it is. -- Mark Sapiro <

Re: [Mailman-Users] "topics"

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Is there a way to set a user's topics via a cli command? You can do this with a withlist script such as the set_topics.py.txt script attached. You would save this in Mailman's bin/ directory as set_topics.py and run it via bin/withlist -l -r set_topics [ ...]'

[Mailman-Users] attachments

2008-04-15 Thread Con Wieland
get the message text plus -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://maillists.uci.edu/mailman/public/test/attachments/ 20080415/846539df/attachment-0002.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name

Re: [Mailman-Users] Email delays using Mailman and sendmail

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: >* Patil, Manjiri S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Hi, >> >> We have internal Mailing List server running Mailman 2.1.9 and SENDMAIL >> 8.13.8. Whenever someone sent email to particular mailing list >> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])consisting app 300 users recipients receive >> it after se

Re: [Mailman-Users] Email delays using Mailman and sendmail

2008-04-15 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Patil, Manjiri S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > We have internal Mailing List server running Mailman 2.1.9 and SENDMAIL > 8.13.8. Whenever someone sent email to particular mailing list > ([EMAIL PROTECTED])consisting app 300 users recipients receive > it after several hours. E.g see the followi

[Mailman-Users] Email delays using Mailman and sendmail

2008-04-15 Thread Patil, Manjiri S
Hi, We have internal Mailing List server running Mailman 2.1.9 and SENDMAIL 8.13.8. Whenever someone sent email to particular mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED])consisting app 300 users recipients receive it after several hours. E.g see the following Email I sent yesterday at 3:19PM that came in at

Re: [Mailman-Users] drop spam solution

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote: >Quoting Michael Geiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> 2. create a new wrapper-script "mailman" (chown mailman:mailman, chmod 755): >> - BEGIN - >> #!/bin/sh >> /usr/bin/procmail -m /opt/mailman/mail/mailman.procmailrc $* >> - END - >> >> 3. create the file "mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christopher X. Candreva wrote: >On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> This is a security and bug fix release and it is highly recommended >> that all sites upgrade to this version. Mailman 2.1.10 also adds support > >Quick clarification: It's somewhat unusuall for it to be recommended that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10rc1 has been released

2008-04-15 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Mark Sapiro wrote: > This is a security and bug fix release and it is highly recommended > that all sites upgrade to this version. Mailman 2.1.10 also adds support Quick clarification: It's somewhat unusuall for it to be recommended that all sites upgrade to a release candid

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman and sendmail issue

2008-04-15 Thread Brad Knowles
Quoting Prashanth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > when i send the mail i happen to see this in the sendmail > error log "stat=unknown mailer error 1 " any clue why is that because > of? You don't give us any useful information, so we're not going to be able to give you a useful answer. Please

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam coming through ultra important list

2008-04-15 Thread Brad Knowles
Quoting Luke Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > We currently run a hundred or so lists at a university our biggest > one (22000 students at a university) is obviously moderated. As a side note, I work at a public research University with ~50,000 students and ~20,000 faculty and staff. > bringing t

Re: [Mailman-Users] drop spam solution

2008-04-15 Thread Brad Knowles
Quoting Michael Geiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2. create a new wrapper-script "mailman" (chown mailman:mailman, chmod 755): > - BEGIN - > #!/bin/sh > /usr/bin/procmail -m /opt/mailman/mail/mailman.procmailrc $* > - END - > > 3. create the file "mailman.procmailrc" (chown mailman:m

[Mailman-Users] mailman and sendmail issue

2008-04-15 Thread Prashanth
hi, when i send the mail i happen to see this in the sendmail error log "stat=unknown mailer error 1 " any clue why is that because of? -- regards, Prashanth http://munichlinux.blogspot.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@