Re: [Mailman-Users] fetchmail with gmail to mailman

2008-03-17 Thread billc
At 12:58 PM -0700 3/17/08, Mark Sapiro wrote: >billc wrote: >> >>No, no --exec-prefix, and I don't see any glaring errors in the >>install log. Some permissions issues on language files was pretty >>much all. >> >>But I'll try again, just to make sure. > > >It should be enough to just run 'make in

Re: [Mailman-Users] postfix-to-mailman problem

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jean-Christian BEDIER wrote: > >I have some problem with mailman on debian sarge. > >When i try to send mail to lists, i can see in my mail.log the following >message: > >Mar 17 18:34:01 box postfix/pipe[374]: 312F06A0051: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >relay=mailman, delay=1105, delays=1105/0.14/0/0.07,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Personalising Content

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kenneth Porter wrote: > >The use of the subject prefix is the subject of a common flame war in many >lists, so it would be nice if that could be personalized. > >See: > > See

Re: [Mailman-Users] Personalising Content

2008-03-17 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Monday, March 17, 2008 5:33 PM -0700 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In addition, Mailman can personalize the To: header of the message. > > See > > for information about personalization options. The use of the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-17 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Monday, March 17, 2008 6:53 PM -0700 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 'join' and 'leave' are synonyms for 'subscribe' and 'unsubscribe'. Jo > Rhett would say you don't need any of these because nearly everyone > uses the web. He might also say you don't need/want 'request' and > 'con

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kenneth Porter wrote: >I want to remove aliases from my mailman installation to avoid spam >backscatter. Which aliases do I absolutely need? > >Here's a list from mm-handler: > >@ValidActions = qw(admin bounces confirm join leave > owner request subscribe unsubscribe); You do

Re: [Mailman-Users] Personalising Content

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jacqui Owen wrote: > >I am hoping someone can help, one of our customers would like to send out >emails where the content is personally addressed. e.g Dear "Jacqui". I have >searched the FAQ but am probably using wrong terminology. If someone could >point me in the right direction it would be appr

[Mailman-Users] Personalising Content

2008-03-17 Thread Jacqui Owen
Hi All, I am hoping someone can help, one of our customers would like to send out emails where the content is personally addressed. e.g Dear "Jacqui". I have searched the FAQ but am probably using wrong terminology. If someone could point me in the right direction it would be appreciated. Cheer

[Mailman-Users] Spam backscatter: Which aliases to remove

2008-03-17 Thread Kenneth Porter
I want to remove aliases from my mailman installation to avoid spam backscatter. Which aliases do I absolutely need? Here's a list from mm-handler: @ValidActions = qw(admin bounces confirm join leave owner request subscribe unsubscribe); --

Re: [Mailman-Users] fetchmail with gmail to mailman

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
billc wrote: > >No, no --exec-prefix, and I don't see any glaring errors in the >install log. Some permissions issues on language files was pretty >much all. > >But I'll try again, just to make sure. It should be enough to just run 'make install' in the unpack src/ directory (or maybe just cop

Re: [Mailman-Users] We need a mail-list

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bill Yang wrote: > > We are a group of volunteers in China, we need a mail-list to share > information. > > We will be really appreciate if you supply us a long-term free mail-list. The Mailman project provides Free Open Source Software for managing mailing lists. We do not provide mail list

Re: [Mailman-Users] fetchmail with gmail to mailman

2008-03-17 Thread billc
At 12:03 PM -0700 3/17/08, Mark Sapiro wrote: > >I'm still getting >> >> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman is a directory >> >>Which it is. An empty one, at that. > > >It shouldn't be. It should be an executable binary something like > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l /usr/local/mailman/mail >tota

Re: [Mailman-Users] fetchmail with gmail to mailman

2008-03-17 Thread billc
At 11:18 AM -0700 3/17/08, Mark Sapiro wrote: >billc wrote: >> >>Let me know if I should be asking this on a fetchmail list instead, >>but I think the part where i'm stuck is with the >> >> mda "/usr/local/mailman post testlist" >> >>When I run this manually instead of as a daemon, it appears

[Mailman-Users] We need a mail-list

2008-03-17 Thread 杨觅
Hi all, We are a group of volunteers in China, we need a mail-list to share information. We will be really appreciate if you supply us a long-term free mail-list. Best Regards! Yours sincerely, Bill Yang -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] fetchmail with gmail to mailman

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
billc wrote: > >Let me know if I should be asking this on a fetchmail list instead, >but I think the part where i'm stuck is with the > > mda "/usr/local/mailman post testlist" > >When I run this manually instead of as a daemon, it appears to be >looking for the mailman app, not the folder.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8

2008-03-17 Thread Hank van Cleef
The esteemed Ki Song has said: > >> > >> One major error I see is that there is no more disk space on the server. > >> How can I remedy this situation? > > > > Buy a bigger disk. :-( > > > > Seriously, this is an OS question, not a Mailman question. > > -- > > Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Mailman-Users] Full personalization and HTML problems

2008-03-17 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello, 2008/3/17, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > > > >I did have %(user_address)s in full personalization which I now > >changed to no personalization and removed the string. I hope this > >helps. Thanks! > > > > If you had a msg_header and removed it, that will h

[Mailman-Users] fetchmail with gmail to mailman

2008-03-17 Thread billc
Hi all, I was hoping to not have to ask this, but I'm stumped. I'm setting up fetchmail to pull mail from a Gmail account (taking advantage of their spam filtering) and dump it into mailman. That way I can avoid opening up Postfix as a POP, and just use it for the SMTP out portion (which app

Re: [Mailman-Users] Full personalization and HTML problems

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > >I did have %(user_address)s in full personalization which I now >changed to no personalization and removed the string. I hope this >helps. Thanks! If you had a msg_header and removed it, that will help. The fact that the header had personalized information is not releva

[Mailman-Users] postfix-to-mailman problem

2008-03-17 Thread Jean-Christian BEDIER
Hi guys, I have some problem with mailman on debian sarge. When i try to send mail to lists, i can see in my mail.log the following message: Mar 17 18:34:01 box postfix/pipe[374]: 312F06A0051: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=mailman, delay=1105, delays=1105/0.14/0/0.07, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred

Re: [Mailman-Users] Full personalization and HTML problems

2008-03-17 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello, 2008/3/17, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > > > >I am being told by some subscribers that the HTML emails they receive > >via a list run by Mailman contain attachments, although the original > >emails have none. > > > >In message body they only have their e

Re: [Mailman-Users] Full personalization and HTML problems

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > >I am being told by some subscribers that the HTML emails they receive >via a list run by Mailman contain attachments, although the original >emails have none. > >In message body they only have their email address and attached they >have a file called ATT00351.htm and two

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ki Song wrote: >> >OK. What if I installed a second hard drive. >How easy is it to tell mailman and other programs to use the second hard >drive? You'd have to copy the current partition to the new drive and then umount the old partition and mount the new one. >Or, would it be easier/better to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ki Song wrote: > >The weird thing is that until this Friday, there was approximately 70-80% >free space on the 75GB partition. > >I know this is not a mailman question, but how should I go about looking for >files that may have suddenly taken up all that disk space. Tools like du and find with the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8

2008-03-17 Thread Ki Song
>>> One major error I see is that there is no more disk space on the server. >>> How can I remedy this situation? >> >> >> Buy a bigger disk. :-( >> >> Seriously, this is an OS question, not a Mailman question. >> >> -- >> Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>The highway is for gamblers, >>

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8

2008-03-17 Thread Ki Song
>> >> One major error I see is that there is no more disk space on the server. >> How can I remedy this situation? > > > Buy a bigger disk. :-( > > Seriously, this is an OS question, not a Mailman question. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>The highway is for gamblers, > San Fra

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ki Song wrote: > >One major error I see is that there is no more disk space on the server. >How can I remedy this situation? Buy a bigger disk. :-( Seriously, this is an OS question, not a Mailman question. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Ba

Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists

2008-03-17 Thread Frank Griffin
Charles Marcus wrote: > I'm confused... above you say that they don't allow relaying from > outside their network 'no matter what'... then you say you need their > relay service while outside their IP block... > The ISP and the third-party relayer are two different companies. I need the rela

Re: [Mailman-Users] lists name caracters

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Antonio Guerrero wrote: > >Actually, our lists name includes a dot '.' in their names (i.e. >[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > ' >In our new hosting, they are unable to configure mailman in order to accept >the '.' dot character in the list name. If I create a list with a dot in the >name it will be created ok,

[Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman version 2.1.8

2008-03-17 Thread Ki Song
I tried starting up my mailman installation this morning (mailmanctl start), and I got the following message: Traceback (most recent call last

[Mailman-Users] lists name caracters

2008-03-17 Thread Antonio Guerrero
Hi, Greetings from spain. Actually, our lists name includes a dot “.” in their names (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In our new hosting, they are unable to configure mailman in order to accept the “.” dot character in the list name. If I create a list with a dot in the name it will be created

Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists

2008-03-17 Thread Charles Marcus
On 3/17/2008, Frank Griffin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > They don't seem to want the risk of basic SMTP auth being cracked or > sniffed, so they just refuse to relay for anything outside their IP > block, period, no matter what. > Since I don't want to have to reconfigure may laptop every time I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists

2008-03-17 Thread Frank Griffin
Charles Marcus wrote: > Most ISPs in the US simply allow relaying on their IP blocks... > > But, they don't absolutely need to support *secure* smtp auth - basic > smtp auth would be much better than using and easily forged 'From:' > header... > > I'd find another ISP/3rd party relay service... >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists

2008-03-17 Thread Charles Marcus
On 3/17/2008, Frank Griffin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > It's their billing model. Most ISPs refuse to support secure SMTP > because of the perceived cost of encryption. The relayer does, but > charges you twice as much for using TLS (actually, mails/bytes are > billed against your account limit

Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists

2008-03-17 Thread Frank Griffin
Charles Marcus wrote: > On 3/17/2008, Frank Griffin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> My test machines all use a third-party relay server which requires >> "From:" to be one of a fixed set of pre-registered values. I handle >> this by using Postfix's "generic" file to rewrite the sender on >> o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists

2008-03-17 Thread Charles Marcus
On 3/17/2008, Frank Griffin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > My test machines all use a third-party relay server which requires > "From:" to be one of a fixed set of pre-registered values. I handle > this by using Postfix's "generic" file to rewrite the sender on > outbound messages to the 'frank.gr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Some detail questions about migrating lists

2008-03-17 Thread Frank Griffin
Mark Sapiro wrote: >> But here's the thing: the only occurrence of >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" on the fresh system is a .forward file in >> /root, /var/spool/postfix, and /home/ftg. The test message is sent from >> the 'ftg' ID whose home directory is /home/ftg. >> >> Do you guys follow or look at .for

[Mailman-Users] Full personalization and HTML problems

2008-03-17 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello, I am being told by some subscribers that the HTML emails they receive via a list run by Mailman contain attachments, although the original emails have none. In message body they only have their email address and attached they have a file called ATT00351.htm and two inline images which were