Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman postings deferred by Yahoo

2008-02-21 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Attila Kinali writes: > It's still not graylisting. [...] The "refused to talk to me" > makes it clear that my server didn't even get a greeting, but above > error message instead. So, yahoo doesn't even know who the sender > or recipient is. Ie, the whole thing is IP based. OK, that's a lo

Re: [Mailman-Users] get_content_type() takes exactly 1 argument (2given)

2008-02-21 Thread Brad Knowles
On 2/21/08, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Just FTR, I really want to move MM3's digest mailbox to maildir format > instead of mbox. MM3 will require Python 2.5, so we can use it's > really great updated mailbox module to handle problems like this. > That's the plan anyway. Can we at least use a hash

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman postings deferred by Yahoo

2008-02-21 Thread Brad Knowles
On 2/21/08, Dov Zamir wrote: > SPF DNS records are now mandatory. Hotmail announced that they would not > receive any mail from a source with no SPF record from the first day it > became mandatory a couple of years ago, but did not actually carry out > the threat at that time, however, it seem

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automated moderation

2008-02-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Richard Smits wrote: > >Also right, but we have to make a script to make the helpdesk manage a >"list or textfile" with addresses wich can mail to a list. Some people >are member of such a list, and some aren't.. so we have 2 places in the >system where we have to work. >- >Accept from non

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie spam filter (regex) question

2008-02-21 Thread Jason LaMar
Mark, The simple trap is all I was trying to avoid -- with the understanding on the other bypass caveats. Thanks very much. Jason _ Jason LaMar Director of Information Services Ohio Wesleyan University | Delaware, OH 43015 IP Tel: 740-368-3131 | AIM/Yahoo IM: jasonrlamar

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automated moderation

2008-02-21 Thread Richard Smits
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Richard Smits wrote: >> Every day we do an import and a member_sync for a couple of lists. >> >> # Postings from any of these non-members will be automatically accepted >> # with no further moderation applied. Add member addresses one per >> # line; start the line with a ^ cha

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automated moderation

2008-02-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Richard Smits wrote: > >Every day we do an import and a member_sync for a couple of lists. > ># Postings from any of these non-members will be automatically accepted ># with no further moderation applied. Add member addresses one per ># line; start the line with a ^ character to designate a regula

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman postings deferred by Yahoo

2008-02-21 Thread Charles Marcus
Stephen J. Turnbull, on 2/20/2008 7:32 PM, said the following: > But the problem is that *Brian* (as an example) is an ISP whose > reliability comes into question not because *his* customers use Yahoo, > but because *his customers'* customers (subscribers, whatever) use > Yahoo. His customers are

[Mailman-Users] Automated moderation

2008-02-21 Thread Richard Smits
Hello, I have a difficult problem. (Maybe not for you) Every day we do an import and a member_sync for a couple of lists. # Postings from any of these non-members will be automatically accepted # with no further moderation applied. Add member addresses one per # line; start the line with a ^ ch

[Mailman-Users] OT but related: Re: Mailman postings deferred by Yahoo

2008-02-21 Thread Brandon Sussman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Here I am congratulating myself for not having any of these problems and United Online (Juno) has blocked mail access for an entire range xxx.yyy.zzz.abc/24 at my webhost. Fortunately they are very responsive and have routed my mail through a differen

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newbie spam filter (regex) question

2008-02-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason LaMar wrote: >OK, forgive my ignorance, but I'm trying to add a Spam Filter rule that >allows postings from a specific e-mail address -- as an exception to our >normal filtering rules. > >It hasn't worked thus far, so what would be the proper (best) 'Spam Filter >Regexp' entry to accept any

[Mailman-Users] Newbie spam filter (regex) question

2008-02-21 Thread Jason LaMar
OK, forgive my ignorance, but I'm trying to add a Spam Filter rule that allows postings from a specific e-mail address -- as an exception to our normal filtering rules. It hasn't worked thus far, so what would be the proper (best) 'Spam Filter Regexp' entry to accept any messages from this example

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman postings deferred by Yahoo

2008-02-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote: > >Oh, and Windows Live (you can't call it Hotmail anymore) requires >that you have a registered Windows Live ID before you can sign up for >their equivalent "Smart Network Data Services" program. Yes, they do require you to register for an ID, but once that is done, the onl

Re: [Mailman-Users] get_content_type() takes exactly 1 argument (2given)

2008-02-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 21, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > The underlying cause may not be the same, but the problem is > precipitated by a message in the list's lists/listname/digest.mbox > file. Just FTR, I really want to move MM3's digest mailbox to maild

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending mail to list members

2008-02-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Downs, Justin wrote: >I have been having the same exact problem since Saturday. The only thing that >changed was an issue with the DNS zone, which has since been resolved, but >none of our email lists are sending to their recepients. Dave Filchak wrote: > >I am running Mailman version 2.1.6 a

Re: [Mailman-Users] get_content_type() takes exactly 1 argument (2given)

2008-02-21 Thread Mark Sapiro
Darragh Gammell wrote: > >I keep seeing this error in my mailman error logs. >I've tried googling it for reasons but to no avail. > >Anyone seen it before/have a reason. > >Feb 21 17:03:21 2008 (16810) SHUNTING: >1176744092.7541261+83406355fa8fca831709ca6993e45b1b8763a180 >Feb 21 17:03:25 2008 (168

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman postings deferred by Yahoo

2008-02-21 Thread Dov Zamir
ציטוט Mark Sapiro: > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >> Are you getting the "deferral based on customer complaints"? If so, >> do you think they're lying about that, or something? (I'm not >> claiming that you or any of your clients are spamming, and I don't >> really care whether Yahoo customers

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending mail to list members

2008-02-21 Thread Downs, Justin
I have been having the same exact problem since Saturday. The only thing that changed was an issue with the DNS zone, which has since been resolved, but none of our email lists are sending to their recepients. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Dave Filchak S

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman postings deferred by Yahoo

2008-02-21 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:48:38 +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Attila Kinali writes: > > > > This is just selective greylisting, which lots of sites use as a > > > blanket policy. > > > > It's definitly not greylisting. Our server sends out a few dozen mails > > a day

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman postings deferred by Yahoo

2008-02-21 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:05:28 +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you getting the "deferral based on customer complaints"? If so, > do you think they're lying about that, or something? (I'm not > claiming that you or any of your clients are spamming, and I don't > really

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman postings deferred by Yahoo

2008-02-21 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:52:29 +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Attila Kinali writes: > > > It's just yahoo that behaves like a black sheep in this game. > > But that's simply not true. AOL has a deservedly bad reputation, as > does Hotmail. I've had problems with a numb