Re: [Mailman-Users] installing Mailman

2008-01-17 Thread Steven Stern
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/17/2008 09:12 PM, Michael James Wright wrote: | Dear Support Group | | I'm trying 2 setup mailman on my WEBSITE http://www.stormsearchers.com/overveiw/overveiw.html but i don't no python programming.could someone help us out here... | | It would

[Mailman-Users] installing Mailman

2008-01-17 Thread Michael James Wright
Dear Support Group I'm trying 2 setup mailman on my WEBSITE http://www.stormsearchers.com/overveiw/overveiw.html but i don't no python programming.could someone help us out here... Regards Michael Wright _ It's simple! Sell y

Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe one per line, names too?

2008-01-17 Thread jidanni
OK, thanks. Filed bug https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1874279&group_id=103&atid=100103 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org

Re: [Mailman-Users] surely can install mailman without root?

2008-01-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> Is the above neglecting a fundamental principle? > > SJT> Yes. Security. If your host allows you to do such things, I strongly > SJT> suggest you find one who won't. ;-) > > My mom just spent $400 for me for 5 years at Dreamhost. What's the > worst that co

Re: [Mailman-Users] surely can install mailman without root?

2008-01-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Along the lines of this (Org. mail already dele'd & I forget who asked): [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Does one really need root privileges to install mailman? Would it be the problems of one doing a full install in a seperate folder on a shared host site?? Space not a problem for myself and

Re: [Mailman-Users] surely can install mailman without root?

2008-01-17 Thread Brandon Sussman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | My mom just spent $400 for me for 5 years at Dreamhost. What's the Since DreamHost already has implemented Mailman for you, why don't you concentrate on setting up your mail lists properly and securely? -BEGIN PGP SIG

Re: [Mailman-Users] surely can install mailman without root?

2008-01-17 Thread jidanni
>> Does one really need root privileges to install mailman? BK> Yup. I see. See ya. Bye. SJT> You could probably make it "work" more or less, but to make things SJT> secure you do need root privileges. >> Is the above neglecting a fundamental principle? SJT> Yes. Security. If your host allow

Re: [Mailman-Users] English the best language

2008-01-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 1/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And how much damage would that cause if they did choose X, assuming I > made sure listinfo.html subscribe.html options.html subscribeack.txt, > i.e., the only pages in language X I can edit on Dreamhost, had all > the missing buttons etc. added back by me

Re: [Mailman-Users] mass subscribe one per line, names too?

2008-01-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 1/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Gentlemen, the administrator's mass subscriptions entry box does not > mention how to get their English names added too. Does one put them in like: > > Ted Blazanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Neurdovitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yup. This is mentioned in the archi

Re: [Mailman-Users] great. no gmane

2008-01-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 1/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I find it only natural to read mailing lists via NNTP/gnus/Gmane.org. > I can't imagine reading mailman-users via my little mailbox. > > However we *denied* gmane: Gmane shot themselves in the foot. Repeatedly. If they had contacted us beforehand, we m

Re: [Mailman-Users] surely can install mailman without root?

2008-01-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 1/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does one really need root privileges to install mailman? Yup. -- Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> LinkedIn Profile: -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Same list name, different domains...

2008-01-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 1/17/08, Barry Finkel wrote: > Then, as I was typing this reply I noticed that if this list were named > "board", then you would have two lists with the same name. Even if the > names are in different virtual domains, you cannot have two lists > with the same name in Mailman 2.1.9. I am n

Re: [Mailman-Users] Howto find Users for a list?

2008-01-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 1/17/08, Chris Penn wrote: > I need to create a list of users for a particular list. is there a way I > can find out who is subscribed to a list in mailman? You can go to the web admin page for the list, then to the "Membership Management" page. If you need anything more, see the FAQ Wiz

Re: [Mailman-Users] Change -owner addresses

2008-01-17 Thread Brad Knowles
On 1/17/08, Joakim Nömell wrote: > Hi all. I have just upgraded my system to MM 2.1.9 and wonder if it is > possible to change the -owner-addresses to something else? The reason is > that we receive a lot of spam after 3 years use. We already have > spam-filters. Go to the main web admin page

[Mailman-Users] English the best language

2008-01-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Or maybe I should not allow them to choose X at all. Hope they can > read English. Or, since you obviously can read English, you could translate the strings and submit a patch. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman

[Mailman-Users] surely can install mailman without root?

2008-01-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Does one really need root privileges to install mailman? You could probably make it "work" more or less, but to make things secure you do need root privileges. > Is the above neglecting a fundamental principle? Yes. Security. If your host allows you to do such th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Change -owner addresses

2008-01-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Joakim Nömell wrote: > Hi all. I have just upgraded my system to MM 2.1.9 and wonder if it is > possible to change the -owner-addresses to something else? It may or may not be easy. At a minimum, you'd need to change def GetOwnerEmail(self): return self.getListAddress('owner') in M

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Constipation

2008-01-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
McNutt Jr, William R wrote: > I have a recurring problem with my mailman server. It keeps getting > constipated. E-mails will pile up, un-served. Stopping and re-starting > mailman clear out the que. > > When I stop and start it, I get the following messages. > > # bin/mailmanctl stop > Shutti

Re: [Mailman-Users] Same list name, different domains...

2008-01-17 Thread Sean Butler
On Jan 17, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Sean Butler wrote: >> >> My question now is, that when I run genaliases, it changes the >> virtual >> mailman file back to hrca_board@ instead of just board@, so does that >> mean every time I need to run genaliases, I'm going to have to >> man

Re: [Mailman-Users] List regularly displays junk

2008-01-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ivan Van Laningham wrote: > > Regularly, people post documents in some other encoding, and they get > posted to the list as garbage. Message source shows: > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by chak-chak.pauahtun.net > id m0HF0UZX032101 Thi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Same list name, different domains...

2008-01-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Sean Butler wrote: > > My question now is, that when I run genaliases, it changes the virtual > mailman file back to hrca_board@ instead of just board@, so does that > mean every time I need to run genaliases, I'm going to have to manually > make this change? Yes. But why do you want to run gen

Re: [Mailman-Users] list_members output with fullname option

2008-01-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Fletch Bowling wrote: > > Wonder why the manual states to use "/" if it makes the script crash? What it says is --fullnames / -f Include the full names in the output. In this context, the slash separates the two alternative ways ('--fullnames' or '-f') of spelling the option. --

[Mailman-Users] English the best language

2008-01-17 Thread jidanni
It is my understanding that on the administrator panels, picking a site language other than English means more than perhaps some stale message stings. It is more like one is imperiling their site to a half blended years old version of the entire software. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?f

[Mailman-Users] Mailman Constipation

2008-01-17 Thread McNutt Jr, William R
I have a recurring problem with my mailman server. It keeps getting constipated. E-mails will pile up, un-served. Stopping and re-starting mailman clear out the que. When I stop and start it, I get the following messages. # bin/mailmanctl stop Shutting down Mailman's master qrunner No child wi

[Mailman-Users] mass subscribe one per line, names too?

2008-01-17 Thread jidanni
Gentlemen, the administrator's mass subscriptions entry box does not mention how to get their English names added too. Does one put them in like: Ted Blazanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Neurdovitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Also say I have chosen site language = English. May I still enter Chinese UTF names or

[Mailman-Users] great. no gmane

2008-01-17 Thread jidanni
I find it only natural to read mailing lists via NNTP/gnus/Gmane.org. I can't imagine reading mailman-users via my little mailbox. However we *denied* gmane: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.discuss/11433 http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=gmane&l=mailman-users%40python.org And http://mail.python

Re: [Mailman-Users] Howto find Users for a list?

2008-01-17 Thread Michael Grueter
Hi Chris, Check the Mailman FAQ for a couple ways to do what you want: - Mike On Jan 17, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Chris Penn wrote: > I need to create a list of users for a particular list. is there a > way I > can find out who is subscribed

[Mailman-Users] surely can install mailman without root?

2008-01-17 Thread jidanni
Does one really need root privileges to install mailman? Surely I could install mailman on my web shared hosting plan without root. (As the version of mailman Dreamhost provides gives the administrator only access to the web interface, and not the shell scripts -- drives one nuts trying to debug.)

Re: [Mailman-Users] Same list name, different domains...

2008-01-17 Thread Barry Finkel
Sean Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I've searched around and the following thread is the closest to what >I need, but I am having trouble getting it to work: > >http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2002-November/023712.html > > >I need to setup [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTE

[Mailman-Users] Howto find Users for a list?

2008-01-17 Thread Chris Penn
I need to create a list of users for a particular list. is there a way I can find out who is subscribed to a list in mailman? Thanks, Chris... -- Sourthern Regional Climate Center Louisiana State University Howe-Russell Geoscience Complex Office E330 Office:225.590.5847 Cell:949.300.3094 " A

[Mailman-Users] Change -owner addresses

2008-01-17 Thread Joakim Nömell
Hi all. I have just upgraded my system to MM 2.1.9 and wonder if it is possible to change the -owner-addresses to something else? The reason is that we receive a lot of spam after 3 years use. We already have spam-filters. Thanks in advance -- _

Re: [Mailman-Users] list_members output with fullname option

2008-01-17 Thread Fletch Bowling
Michael Grueter wrote: Thanks Michael, I just stumbled on to it myself along with the fact that the -o needs to be behind the -f like this: ./list_members -f -o filename listname Wonder why the manual states to use "/" if it makes the script crash? Regardless I am good to go now..thank you. F

Re: [Mailman-Users] list_members output with fullname option

2008-01-17 Thread Michael Grueter
Hi Fletch, I just did this yesterday. I found that the "/" was not needed. The command should look like this: bin/list_members -f ListName - Mike On Jan 17, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Fletch Bowling wrote: > I am trying to get a file output with list members and getting the > file > with just the e

[Mailman-Users] list_members output with fullname option

2008-01-17 Thread Fletch Bowling
Hello, I am trying to get a file output with list members and getting the file with just the email names is no problem and works fine. But the docs say there is a / -f option to get the full names in the output. This causes list_members to simply crash and output the standard help file. Any fix

Re: [Mailman-Users] running External Archiver on background/foreground

2008-01-17 Thread Dragon
Mohamed CHAARI wrote: >what about the Archiver.pyc file ? do you think it is necessary to >re-compile and re-install the whole soft ? or simply apply the patch on >Archiver.py to make it working ? End original message. - Python is (usually) smart enough to fig

[Mailman-Users] List regularly displays junk

2008-01-17 Thread Ivan Van Laningham
Hi All-- This is for a list I don't run, but am a member of. Regularly, people post documents in some other encoding, and they get posted to the list as garbage. Message source shows: > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by chak-chak.pauahtun.net id

Re: [Mailman-Users] running External Archiver on background/foreground

2008-01-17 Thread Mohamed CHAARI
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Mohamed CHAARI wrote: >> As I really need to keep possibility to have both MM archiving and >> external one, I've made a small patch on Mailman, so that it accepts >> both internal archiving (pipermail) and external archiving (if enabled). >> In this way, there is no longer nee