Re: [Mailman-Users] Preventing spam to list owners

2007-09-30 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad Knowles writes: > On 10/1/07, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > If (3) interests you, I can go into more detail about my solution, but > > I gotta run right now. > > BTW, #1 and #2 are also issues for e-mail to Postmaster, which is > covered in the SAGE Booklet "Internet Postmaster

Re: [Mailman-Users] Preventing spam to list owners

2007-09-30 Thread Brad Knowles
On 9/30/07, Robert Braver wrote: > Wholesale bouncing of list mail to non-subscribers is totally > unacceptable due to the amount of outscatter this will cause. (see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backscatter#Backscatter_of_email_spam ) Mailman is pretty resistant to generating backscatter. Y

Re: [Mailman-Users] Preventing spam to list owners

2007-09-30 Thread Brad Knowles
On 10/1/07, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > If (3) interests you, I can go into more detail about my solution, but > I gotta run right now. BTW, #1 and #2 are also issues for e-mail to Postmaster, which is covered in the SAGE Booklet "Internet Postmaster: Duties and Responsibilities" (see

Re: [Mailman-Users] Preventing spam to list owners

2007-09-30 Thread Brad Knowles
On 9/30/07, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I use spamassassin with a pretty low threshold, but there is so much > volume that the 5% that gets through is a bunch. I wish I had a better > solution. There are an infinite variety of "solutions" to the "spam problem", and the problem is that what solves th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Beginner questions

2007-09-30 Thread Brad Knowles
On 9/30/07, Chris Arnold wrote: > I have gotten an answer from the zimbra forums on how to achieve this: > http://wiki.zimbra.com/index.php?title=Split_Domain > In the section > > Configuring Zimbra as the Primary System > > I need to follow those steps for every email address that needs to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Beginner questions

2007-09-30 Thread Chris Arnold
I also see in my email logs on the webserver: (i stopped and then started postfix to mark where i was in the logs) Sep 30 18:34:06 web postfix/master[1475]: daemon started -- version 2.2.9, configuration /etc/postfix Sep 30 18:34:06 web postfix/qmgr[1477]: 9E7945FBBB: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, s

Re: [Mailman-Users] variable codes showing

2007-09-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
April Mar wrote: >It seems that my welcome message that is being sent out when someone >subscribes is doing so without the variables being replaced with, well, the >variable > >See this copy and paste of a portion of my welcome message --- > > Welcome to the %(real_name)[EMAIL PROTECTE

[Mailman-Users] variable codes showing

2007-09-30 Thread April Mar
It seems that my welcome message that is being sent out when someone subscribes is doing so without the variables being replaced with, well, the variable See this copy and paste of a portion of my welcome message --- Welcome to the %(real_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s mailing lis

Re: [Mailman-Users] Beginner questions

2007-09-30 Thread Chris Arnold
Dan Phillips wrote: > > On Sep 30, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Chris Arnold wrote: >> i am not >> getting an email at my gmail account of the email i sent to the list. I >> should be getting that email back to the gmail account, right? >> > > Nope. See the last paragraph of: > > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Beginner questions

2007-09-30 Thread Chris Arnold
Chris Arnold wrote: > Mark Sapiro wrote: > >>> This did not let me use @192.168.x.x as it is complaining about the >>> syntax (not a .whatever) >>> >>> >> You have to put the IP in square brackets as I did in my example. >> >> > I did, it doe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Beginner questions

2007-09-30 Thread Chris Arnold
Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> >>> >> This did not let me use @192.168.x.x as it is complaining about the >> syntax (not a .whatever) >> > > > You have to put the IP in square brackets as I did in my example. > I did, it does not like that format and will not let me add it like that > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Preventing spam to list owners

2007-09-30 Thread Robert Braver
On Sunday, September 30, 2007, 12:30:44 AM, Gary Spivey wrote: GS> My lists are locked down to only allow posts from members, so my GS> members are not getting any [spam]. However, as list owner, every GS> one of my lists is getting a large amount of [spam] - generally GS> sent to the listname-own

[Mailman-Users] Preventing spam to list owners

2007-09-30 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Gary Spivey writes: > former, does somebody have a recommended way to stop them? I have a SPAM > filter running on my end system, but I am just tired of the constant > flow of SPAM. There's no recommended way. As Mark says, only a choice of evils. The basic problem that we face is that email

Re: [Mailman-Users] Preventing spam to list owners

2007-09-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Gary Spivey wrote: >My lists are locked down to only allow posts from members, so my members >are not getting any SPAM. However, as list owner, every one of my lists >is getting a large amount of SPAM - generally sent to the listname-owner >or to mailman-owner. My maillog entry looks like this: >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Beginner questions

2007-09-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Chris Arnold wrote: >Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> However, can you forward to an address at an IP instead of a domain. >> I.e. mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to the main mail server and >> gets forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or whatever the IP of the >> Mailman machine is)? With some MTAs, you'd need

Re: [Mailman-Users] Preventing spam to list owners

2007-09-30 Thread Dennis Morgan
The way I approached this was I sort of built a new front end. (Thank you Mark for your help!) Instead of people starting at the default Mailman 'advertised lists" page I sent everyone here: http://e-aa.org/maillist.html I created new lists and moved all the subscribers. I edited the HTML in t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Beginner questions

2007-09-30 Thread Chris Arnold
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Chris Arnold wrote: > > >> Heres where i am not understanding: >> >> if >> list mail is going first to the maim mail server machine, then it >> needs to be told to relay all 10 addresses per list to the Mailman >> machine. >> >> I don't see how to do that on my mailserver. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Preventing spam to list owners

2007-09-30 Thread Brad Knowles
On 9/29/07, Gary Spivey wrote: > Does anyone know how to best stop these? Are these SPAM's coming from > the outside direct to the e-mail address, or are they somehow going > through mailman? If the latter, can I stop it in mailman somehow? If the > former, does somebody have a recommended way