Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not being delivered.

2007-07-15 Thread Brad Knowles
On 7/15/07, Brandon Slaten wrote: > Some additional information: > > The old server: > > Using Mailman version: 2.1.6 [ ... deletia ... ] > The new server: > > Using Mailman version: 2.1.5 With regards to software in general, moving backward in the version number scheme is problem

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's "Client TOS Notification"

2007-07-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > >OK, so VERP is still the way to go, since the message-id is always >different Do you mean the SMTP id in the first Received: (from Mailman) header? You can get the recipient from your MTA log using this, but the Message-ID: header is normally unchanged from the incoming

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not being delivered.

2007-07-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: >Brandon Slaten wrote: >> >>Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> Brandon Slaten wrote: > >>~mailman -> /usr/lib/mailman >> >>There is no lock, qfiles, or log directories there to look at to assess >>items 6-8 in the link above. > > >In redhat 2.1.5, they may be in /var/mailman But OTOH, the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Failures showing in the log file?

2007-07-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dennis Carr wrote: >OK, something I notice in my posts log is a message not entirely unlike >the following: > >Jul 15 09:27:31 2007 (32571) post to list from [EMAIL PROTECTED], >size=5706, message-id=, 557 failures > >Now, as time progresses, that "failures" number counts down, and >ultimately, th

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's "Client TOS Notification"

2007-07-15 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting Christopher X. Candreva ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Dave Dewey wrote: > > > Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Wow, maybe I'm just lucky. > > Is your server on the AOL whitelist ? Yep. I get very few complaints, 99% of them accidental, so for me it's just a way to c

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2007-07-15 Thread Jens Andersson
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[Mailman-Users] Failures showing in the log file?

2007-07-15 Thread Dennis Carr
OK, something I notice in my posts log is a message not entirely unlike the following: Jul 15 09:27:31 2007 (32571) post to list from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=5706, message-id=, 557 failures Now, as time progresses, that "failures" number counts down, and ultimately, there is a "success" asociated

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not being delivered.

2007-07-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brandon Slaten wrote: > >Mark Sapiro wrote: >> Brandon Slaten wrote: >~mailman -> /usr/lib/mailman > >There is no lock, qfiles, or log directories there to look at to assess >items 6-8 in the link above. In redhat 2.1.5, they may be in /var/mailman (see below) >I did find the mentioned mailma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not being delivered.

2007-07-15 Thread Brandon Slaten
Some additional information: The old server: Using Mailman version: 2.1.6 Compiled from src. SunOS 5.8 Generic_117350-14 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-4 The new server: Using Mailman version: 2.1.5 Installed from mailman-2.1.5.1-34.rhel4.5 Linux 2.6.9-55.0.2.ELsmp #1 SMP Tue Jun 12 17:59:08 EDT 2007 i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages not being delivered.

2007-07-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brandon Slaten wrote: > >I just moved our Mailman lists to a new server. Accessing the listinfo >and admin pages works fine. After creating a new list mail sent to that >list is delivered. However mail set to the old lists, the ones that >were moved to this server, is not delivered. What happe

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's "Client TOS Notification"

2007-07-15 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Dave Dewey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Do you use VERP to send out the mails? If you do that you can see who > > the culprit is. > > VERP doesn't work any longer for these, as of a couple months ago. Damn! My last TOS notification dates back quite some time... > They now redact ALL information t

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's "Client TOS Notification"

2007-07-15 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 7/14/07, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > >> Simple - yes. Effective? Depends on what you are after. By doing it this >> way you are not really different from AOL, are you? You punish many users >> just because some other are thoughtless and lazy. When I offer s