Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Dragon wrote: > >Mailman maintains a current version of its config file and a backup >that is one generation older. It sounds to me like the current config >is corrupt and it is falling back on the backup. This is unlikely to be the case. First of all, config.pck.last is at most one transaction

Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jay Chandler wrote: > >When a user was unsubscribed (through the web interface), they continued >to receive emails. And when additional users were subscribed, they >still haven't received any of the list traffic. Do your subs and unsubs require approval? Any admindb requests waiting. If sub r

Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Tomblin
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:52:54 -0800 "Jay Chandler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This is on FreeBSD / Postfix. Anyone know what I might have forgotten >to do? Everything else works correctly. Any chance you have two installations of mailman and the mail aliases are pointing to the old one? ___

Re: [Mailman-Users] Weirdness

2007-03-09 Thread Dragon
Jay Chandler wrote: >I'm new to Mailman, so please bear with me. > >There's an existing list that was set up a few weeks ago. All was well, >until I noticed something rather odd. > >When a user was unsubscribed (through the web interface), they continued >to receive emails. And when additional us

[Mailman-Users] Weirdness

2007-03-09 Thread Jay Chandler
I'm new to Mailman, so please bear with me. There's an existing list that was set up a few weeks ago. All was well, until I noticed something rather odd. When a user was unsubscribed (through the web interface), they continued to receive emails. And when additional users were subscribed, they

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Denis Morejón López wrote: >I have about 15 lists. Some of them become a dark hole some times, since >users can not send to or receive from these lists. I do not see any error >log in /var/log/mailman/error, only some pck files into >/var/spool/mailman/shunt/. >I just tried /usr/lib/mailman/bin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread Denis Morejón López
Hello guys: I have about 15 lists. Some of them become a dark hole some times, since users can not send to or receive from these lists. I do not see any error log in /var/log/mailman/error, only some pck files into /var/spool/mailman/shunt/. I just tried /usr/lib/mailman/bin/unshunt /var/spool/

Re: [Mailman-Users] A Mailman Log Viewer script

2007-03-09 Thread Dragon
OK, so the attachment appears to have been stripped by the list. :-( To get the tar file for the script viewer, please go here: http://www.crimson-dragon.com/mmlog.tar.gz Dragon ~~~ Venimus, Saltavimus, Bibimus (et naribus canium ca

[Mailman-Users] A Mailman Log Viewer script

2007-03-09 Thread Dragon
Here is my gift to the Mailman community. I have created a PHP script to display Mailman logs via an HTTP interface. (I used PHP because it is what I know best, Python is still too new for me). It was developed to aid list owners on a server running Plesk with very restricted access policies

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >These are the hard realities of the Consumer Internet. The last thing >my partner and I **need** is a Unix-like encrypted password and having >to reset passwords as root. You won't have to do the reset as root or at all, except of course for those clueless users who

Re: [Mailman-Users] "On behalf of" mail header

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mike Maughan wrote: > >I'd like subscriber/poster email addresses to be reported as they are on >this list: > >from: name to mailman-user > >instead of what I presently have: > >from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Behalf Of > >I've trawled the admin settings but am not seeing h

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Brad Knowles has said: > > At 9:19 PM -0700 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Tell me that isn't true, Mark. From this mail list administrator's > > perspective, "I can't find/use my password" ranks just below the AOL > > flaming demands that we unsubscribe them NOW! > > Wh

[Mailman-Users] "On behalf of" mail header

2007-03-09 Thread Mike Maughan
Hi, A simple problem I'm sure but I cannot find the setting :( I'd like subscriber/poster email addresses to be reported as they are on this list: from: name to mailman-user instead of what I presently have: from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of I've trawled the adm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-09 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Brad Knowles has said: > > At 8:46 PM -0700 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Maybe this is a good time to ask just how DNS-intensive the > > non-sendmail MTA's are. I am finishing off the basics on installing > > sendmail with Mailman, and am including some discussion of th

Re: [Mailman-Users] shunt

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Josh Greenberg wrote: > >I'm completely unfamiliar with this shunting process and its kind of >disturbing that mailman would quietly discard a perfectly good message >that had been sent by an approved sender and not throw any errors except >this cryptic line in the error log. I can't find any go

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > But, for those for whom they are useful, here's a possibility. This is > not a promise, but rather a suggestion. I first saw it it a comment by > Glen Seib on the wiki . > > The suggestion (with interpretation

[Mailman-Users] shunt

2007-03-09 Thread Josh Greenberg
Earlier today one of my users sent a message out to a list but it never got there. It took a long time to figure out what happened to this message but when we finally found it, it had been shunted. There was an entry in the mailman error log that read "Mar 09 11:26:51 2007 (9048) SHUNTING: 1173

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread Mark Sapiro
Paul Tomblin wrote: > >I'm starting to think that my average mailing list user won't remember the >URL they used to subscribe, they don't file away that email they get when >they subscribe with all the instructions, that they don't read the footer >on every message, and they don't read the monthly

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-09 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Brad Knowles wrote: > So Phil says that he runs a trustworthy IDENT server on his box. > Fine. But plenty of spammers, phishers, and other nefarious types > out there will try to use IDENT as another vector to exploit for use > in breaking into your system, or for tricking

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nomail members

2007-03-09 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Brad Knowles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > At 9:19 PM -0700 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Tell me that isn't true, Mark. From this mail list administrator's > > perspective, "I can't find/use my password" ranks just below the AOL > > flaming demands that we unsubscribe them NOW! > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow delivery

2007-03-09 Thread Herman Privyhum
--- Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sorry. I don't see how Phil's views from eight > years ago on this subject are relevant to how > computer systems should be operated in > this modern world. Thanks for the in-depth commentary. Here's the modern FAQ entry, FWIW: