Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The esteemed Mark Sapiro has said: > > > > Jason Luck wrote: > > > > >Thanks for the response, unfortunately my limited knowledge on these > > >matters leaves me at a dead end. Not sure how to change any of these > > >items or where to go from he

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not

2007-02-23 Thread vancleef
The esteemed Mark Sapiro has said: > > Jason Luck wrote: > > >Thanks for the response, unfortunately my limited knowledge on these > >matters leaves me at a dead end. Not sure how to change any of these > >items or where to go from here. > > > You fix it in your sendmail configuration by tel

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-reject non-member messages?

2007-02-23 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:53 AM -0800 2/23/07, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Yes. I send spam to your list spoofing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the sender. > You send a reject message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] which has my original > spam attached. Poor joe receives my spam from you - not a good thing. Yes, but Mailman will only send

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-reject non-member messages?

2007-02-23 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:47 AM -0800 2/23/07, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Discard is better than Reject unless you feel you might receive > non-member posts for which it is important to respond in some way, > i.e. some legitimate request from a non-member who would assume the > request was received in the absence of a n

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Luck wrote: >Thanks for the response, unfortunately my limited knowledge on these >matters leaves me at a dead end. Not sure how to change any of these >items or where to go from here. You fix it in your sendmail configuration by telling sendmail to listen for port 25 connects from anyw

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
Thanks for the response, unfortunately my limited knowledge on these matters leaves me at a dead end. Not sure how to change any of these items or where to go from here. On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Jason Luck wrote: > > > >grep "Port" sendmail.cf > > > >O DaemonPortOptions=Port=s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Luck wrote: > >grep "Port" sendmail.cf > >O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA >#O ClientPortOptions=Family=inet, Address=0.0.0.0 I don't know sendmail configuration, but it seems you've only told it to listen on the local loopback port 127.0.0.1 >netstat -na |grep ":25

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
> That's right. The delay notice below says it was unable to connect to > an SMTP server at falconfootball.org. Is your MTA at > falconfootball.org listening for connects on port 25 from the outside? grep "Port" sendmail.cf O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA #O ClientPortOptio

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Luck wrote: > >...but...I'm not able to... > >(a) receive any email when posted to a list I'm subscribed to. >(b) and there is not record in the archives of these messages. >(c) I've checked the following logs...maillog, smtp, smtp-failure and they >are not posting anything. > >It seems as t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Jason Luck wrote: > > > >I didn't know enough to look into the specific log files that gave me the > >information until I had started this thread. 6.14 looks helpful. But I > >looked in resolv.conf and have the following: > > > >; generated by /sbin/dh

Re: [Mailman-Users] list member address change by moderator

2007-02-23 Thread Dragon
Mark Sapiro sent the message below at 13:59 2/23/2007: >Mark Sapiro wrote: > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>Is there a mechanism for a list administrator to change a list member > >>address without going through the confirmation dialog. > > > >You can do it with a withlist script. In fact, I j

Re: [Mailman-Users] list member address change by moderator

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Is there a mechanism for a list administrator to change a list member >>address without going through the confirmation dialog. > >You can do it with a withlist script. In fact, I just wrote one. See > or ><

Re: [Mailman-Users] message delivered to list but altered for some

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Michael Rainey wrote: > >A message is delivered to all list members, but some members get full >message, while some a very abbreviated message with much of message not >included. (There are many links in message but this has not been an >issue previously.) I cannot now ascertain how many reci

Re: [Mailman-Users] list member address change by moderator

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Is there a mechanism for a list administrator to change a list member >address without going through the confirmation dialog. You can do it with a withlist script. In fact, I just wrote one. See or

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-reject non-member messages?

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mike Starr wrote: >Thanks so much for the help; I've set it to Reject for the moment. Could >you expand on why Discard might be better? Are there spam issues with >the concept of sending a rejection email? Yes. I send spam to your list spoofing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the sender. You send a reject

[Mailman-Users] list member address change by moderator

2007-02-23 Thread vancleef
Is there a mechanism for a list administrator to change a list member address without going through the confirmation dialog. I've got a case where [EMAIL PROTECTED] wants to become [EMAIL PROTECTED] While the confirmation goes to newisp.com and requires the listmember response, I'd prefer to have

[Mailman-Users] message delivered to list but altered for some

2007-02-23 Thread Michael Rainey
A message is delivered to all list members, but some members get full message, while some a very abbreviated message with much of message not included. (There are many links in message but this has not been an issue previously.) I cannot now ascertain how many recipients fall into each categ

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-reject non-member messages?

2007-02-23 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 2/23/07, Mike Starr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just took over administering a list and get a few spam messages to the > list from non-members. I looked at the available information and > couldn't figure out how to set the list admin controls to automatically > reject any message to the list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-reject non-member messages?

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mike Starr wrote: >I just took over administering a list and get a few spam messages to the >list from non-members. I looked at the available information and >couldn't figure out how to set the list admin controls to automatically >reject any message to the list from a non-member. We're a small gr

[Mailman-Users] Auto-reject non-member messages?

2007-02-23 Thread Mike Starr
I just took over administering a list and get a few spam messages to the list from non-members. I looked at the available information and couldn't figure out how to set the list admin controls to automatically reject any message to the list from a non-member. We're a small group with a tightly cont

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Luck wrote: > >I didn't know enough to look into the specific log files that gave me the >information until I had started this thread. 6.14 looks helpful. But I >looked in resolv.conf and have the following: > >; generated by /sbin/dhclient-script >search localdomain >nameserver 24.25.5.6

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Jason Luck wrote: > > >Also...I just found a discussion on the mailman archives of... > > > >Low level smtp error. > > > And I wonder why you didn't find FAQ 6.14 which addresses your problem > specifically. I didn't know enough to look into the specif

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reaching end-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Baris Basar wrote: >I'm using xp pro op. Sys. Are you running Mailman on this? If so, and if you have anything to add to , let us know. Jason Luck wrote: > >In my set-up...mm_cfg.py is located... > >/etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Luck wrote: >When I look in my /etc/hosts file...I have no entries. > >So I just added... > >127.0.0.1 localhost > >...and restarted the network. That should help. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Luck wrote: >Also...I just found a discussion on the mailman archives of... > >Low level smtp error. And I wonder why you didn't find FAQ 6.14 which addresses your problem specifically. >telnet localhost 25 > >...from the mailman box. I just tried that command from the mailman box >and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reachingend-user

2007-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Luck wrote: >> >SMTPHOST...in mm_cfg.py...no info on >> > DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' >> > MTA = 'Manual' >> > SMTPHOST = 'localhost' >> > SMTPPORT = 0 # default from smtplib >> > SENDMAIL_CMD = '/usr/lib/sendmail' >> >> >> If the above are actually indente

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reaching end-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
In my set-up...mm_cfg.py is located... /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py ...and Defaults.py is located... /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Baris Basar wrote: > Can i ask you something? Where's mm_cfg.py?? > > -Original Message- > From:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reaching end-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Jason Luck > > > >SMTPHOST...in mm_cfg.py...no info on > > DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' > > MTA = 'Manual' > > SMTPHOST = 'localhost' > > SMTPPORT = 0 # default from smtplib > > SENDMAIL_CMD = '/usr/lib/sendmail' > > > If

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reaching end-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
Also...I just found a discussion on the mailman archives of... Low level smtp error. I have a different error than this individual had, the error they listed was... >an 16 17:12:32 2007 (9353) Low level smtp error: (111, 'Connection >refused'), msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Jan 16 17:12:32 2007

Re: [Mailman-Users] Confirmation and sent messages not reaching end-user

2007-02-23 Thread Jason Luck
> >SMTPHOST...in mm_cfg.py...no info on > > DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect' > > MTA = 'Manual' > > SMTPHOST = 'localhost' > > SMTPPORT = 0 # default from smtplib > > SENDMAIL_CMD = '/usr/lib/sendmail' > > > If the above are actually indented, this is bad. They shouldn