Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom Sign-Up Form

2006-10-17 Thread Lindsay Haisley
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 12:28:56AM CDT > Lindsay Haisley writes: > > > Well-written technical documentation, however, is also somewhat > > rarer than one might hope. > > True. But Mailman's is well better than average in my experience > because about half of it is

Re: [Mailman-Users] password management

2006-10-17 Thread stephen
Alain Williams writes: > * that mailman passwords are locked away in python pickles .. this > makes them difficult to access/maintain through scripts written in > other languages. Not at all. Just write a python script to get the passwords out, then call that script. Inefficient? Of course-

Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom Sign-Up Form

2006-10-17 Thread stephen
Lindsay Haisley writes: > Well-written technical documentation, however, is also somewhat > rarer than one might hope. True. But Mailman's is well better than average in my experience because about half of it is in the FAQ, based on the Internet tradition of codifying best current practices (i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Yet Another List Cloning Question

2006-10-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jon Forrest wrote: > >Here's what isn't clear to me. In looking at the contents >of oldlistname.cfg I see lots of good stuff. Some of it is obviously >specific to oldlistname, and some of it is generic list >configuration info. Is there any way I, as a new Mailman, >can tell which is which? For exa

[Mailman-Users] Yet Another List Cloning Question

2006-10-17 Thread Jon Forrest
(I've read the archives about list cloning. I hope the question below isn't the same as the rest. This question is for Mailman 2.1.9). I need to create a bunch of email lists, more than are feasible to create using the web interface. I have, however, used the web interface to create one list that

Re: [Mailman-Users] password management

2006-10-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:21 PM +0100 10/17/06, Alain Williams wrote: > * that mailman passwords are locked away in python pickles .. this > makes them difficult to access/maintain through scripts written in > other languages. There's a variety of reasons why passwords are being eliminated from future versions of

Re: [Mailman-Users] password management

2006-10-17 Thread Alain Williams
On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 12:55:52PM -0500, Patrick Bogen wrote: > On 10/17/06, Melinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Has anyone come up with a good management for passwords. We are about to > > introduce Mailman to the university and many are concerned about password > > management and generating

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-deleting mail from outside .no?

2006-10-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 12:45 PM -0500 10/17/06, Patrick Bogen wrote: > Of course, the other side of this is that if there are legitimate > messages that get discarded, you won't know they were ever there, and > the person won't know they didn't get to you. These are thorny issues, which is why this process should

Re: [Mailman-Users] Serious Performance issue

2006-10-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:38 AM -0500 10/17/06, Gadi Evron wrote: >> I am new to this list having just implemented mailman for an >> announce-list we host. In short, the performance is horrible. The list >> has approx 40,000 subscribers and the avg message going out is about 40K >> (some embedded imagery). I k

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-deleting mail from outside .no?

2006-10-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:50 AM -0500 10/17/06, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > Actually, discard_these_nonmembers on the same admin page I cited is a better > option if most of it is spam. Actually, this kind of rejection should be done within the MTA, before the message ever gets to Mailman. If the message you want t

Re: [Mailman-Users] GNU Mailman Upgrade

2006-10-17 Thread Bryan Carbonnell
On 10/17/06, Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/17/06, Kaushal Shriyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have compiled GNU Mailman version 2.1.8 from source from > > http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/ > > All you need to do, then, is run 'configure' with the same options you > gave it the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Using a remote email account as a message source

2006-10-17 Thread BigglesZX
Ye gods, it was require_explicit_destination that sorted it. If only I'd not glossed over that part in the original reply/looked more thoroughly for that configuration directive :(. Very many thanks to yourself and Patrick for sticking with me during this! I suspect less patient guys would have ig

Re: [Mailman-Users] password management

2006-10-17 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 10/17/06, Melinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone come up with a good management for passwords. We are about to > introduce Mailman to the university and many are concerned about password > management and generating a lot of helpdesk calls. We currently are running > Listproc on a Sola

Re: [Mailman-Users] GNU Mailman Upgrade

2006-10-17 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 10/17/06, Kaushal Shriyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have compiled GNU Mailman version 2.1.8 from source from > http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mailman/ All you need to do, then, is run 'configure' with the same options you gave it the first time, then compile and install normally. The new sources f

[Mailman-Users] password management

2006-10-17 Thread Melinda
Has anyone come up with a good management for passwords. We are about to introduce Mailman to the university and many are concerned about password management and generating a lot of helpdesk calls. We currently are running Listproc on a Solaris. We want to move to Mailman on a RedHat Linux box.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Serious Performance issue

2006-10-17 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Lindsay Haisley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I would try to profile the problem, chunk it down into components and see > where > it's taking the most time. My guess is that it's not a Mailman problem, but > an > MTA problem. "Unresponsive" generally means that your load average has gone > way

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-deleting mail from outside .no?

2006-10-17 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 10/17/06, Lindsay Haisley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, discard_these_nonmembers on the same admin page I cited is a better > option if most of it is spam. Just to expand on what Lindsay is saying: Rejecting 'spam' mails means that mailman will send a message back saying the message w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-deleting mail from outside .no?

2006-10-17 Thread Lindsay Haisley
Actually, discard_these_nonmembers on the same admin page I cited is a better option if most of it is spam. Thus spake Thomas Gramstad on Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 11:00:31AM CDT > What I really want is the option to set that anything mailed from > an address that does not end with .no is automaticall

Re: [Mailman-Users] Auto-deleting mail from outside .no?

2006-10-17 Thread Lindsay Haisley
Privacy Options | Sender Filters | reject_these_nonmembers will accept a regular expression. See the help for it. It's a per-list setting. Thus spake Thomas Gramstad on Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 11:00:31AM CDT > I have many small lists in Norwegian and they're all being > hit by a lot of spam. Yes,

Re: [Mailman-Users] GNU Mailman Upgrade

2006-10-17 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
On 10/17/06, Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/17/06, Kaushal Shriyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have GNU Mailman version is 2.1.8 running on my linux box, Just > > wanted to know "How do i upgrade it to "The current stable GNU Mailman > > version is 2.1.9, released on 12-Sep-2

[Mailman-Users] Auto-deleting mail from outside .no?

2006-10-17 Thread Thomas Gramstad
I have many small lists in Norwegian and they're all being hit by a lot of spam. Yes, the spam filter holds them back -- but then I get a /lot/ of mail about new messages waiting, and it's a big job moderating them. What I really want is the option to set that anything mailed from an address that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Serious Performance issue

2006-10-17 Thread Lindsay Haisley
Thus spake Gadi Evron on Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 10:38:48AM CDT > On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Peter Kofod wrote: > > Hi Everyone: > > > > I am new to this list having just implemented mailman for an > > announce-list we host. In short, the performance is horrible. The list > > has approx 40,000 subscriber

Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom Sign-Up Form

2006-10-17 Thread Lindsay Haisley
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 01:24:42AM CDT > Lindsay Haisley writes: > > For a project I'm working on I just de-geeked the Namazu search > > engine example page, which used Emacs, FreeBSD and other techie > > terms as search word examples. I replaced all the geek words

Re: [Mailman-Users] Serious Performance issue

2006-10-17 Thread Gadi Evron
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006, Peter Kofod wrote: > Hi Everyone: > > I am new to this list having just implemented mailman for an > announce-list we host. In short, the performance is horrible. The list > has approx 40,000 subscribers and the avg message going out is about 40K > (some embedded imagery).

Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about Archives

2006-10-17 Thread Lindsay Haisley
Thus spake Ken Winter on Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:17:32PM CDT > OK, I went to the host and deleted the files 2006-September (a folder), > 2006-september.txt, and 2006-September.txt.gz. Alas, the 9/06 archive is > still listed on the web page. I guess I have to edit index.html in that > folder as w

Re: [Mailman-Users] GNU Mailman Upgrade

2006-10-17 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 10/17/06, Kaushal Shriyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have GNU Mailman version is 2.1.8 running on my linux box, Just > wanted to know "How do i upgrade it to "The current stable GNU Mailman > version is 2.1.9, released on 12-Sep-2006" Did you compile your Mailman from source, or are you usi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Serious Performance issue

2006-10-17 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 10/17/06, Peter Kofod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It has gotten to the point where we can't even manage the system via the > web interface (keep getting a 500 Internal Server error). I am > obviously no mailman or postfix guru, so any pointers on where I should > look in the logs and make chan

[Mailman-Users] Serious Performance issue

2006-10-17 Thread Peter Kofod
Hi Everyone: I am new to this list having just implemented mailman for an announce-list we host. In short, the performance is horrible. The list has approx 40,000 subscribers and the avg message going out is about 40K (some embedded imagery). I know we can do better with lazy html etc., but the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom Sign-Up Form

2006-10-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:49 AM +0200 10/17/06, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > English is not first language for me so I am not sure I should > contribute but a couple of very simple things for starters. Actually, I find that people who are new to a subject like this are the ones that are in the best position to help u

Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom Sign-Up Form

2006-10-17 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello, On Mon, 16 Oct 2006, Brad Knowles wrote: > That's a wonderful idea. However, since most of the people who contribute to > these efforts are people who've been around for a while and who understand > the importance of things like reading the FAQs, this is kind of a > self-selecting comm