Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 27, 2006, at 8:29 PM, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: >> In summary my preferences would be: >> >> Mailman 2.1.x supported on Python 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5. Drop support >> for Python 2.1 and 2.2. We've done this accidentally in Mailman >> 2.1.9, so let's ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 27, 2006, at 9:32 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Mailman 2.1.x supported on Python 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5. Drop support >> for Python 2.1 and 2.2. We've done this accidentally in Mailman >> 2.1.9, so let's make it official. > > Would it be poss

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail Man Help

2006-09-27 Thread stephen
Patrick Bogen writes: > On 9/27/06, Barry Finkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the source(s) of these differences. Is there 2.1.8 code that has not > > been ported to the Ubuntu 2.1.5-9? > I don't know. This is up to the Ubuntu folk. *usually* the -9 means > there have been 9 security patch

Re: [Mailman-Users] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread stephen
Barry Warsaw writes: > Mailman 2.2 supported on Python 2.4 and 2.5. +1. > Mailman 2.1.x supported on Python 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5. Drop support > for Python 2.1 and 2.2. We've done this accidentally in Mailman > 2.1.9, so let's make it official. Would it be possible to maintain a rough li

Re: [Mailman-Users] MySQL or other backends

2006-09-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Patrick Bogen wrote: >On 9/25/06, Jeremy Leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Does Mailman support using MySQL, LDAP or another SQL server for a backend? > >I believe there's a third-party patch/addon to use MySQL for storing >membership information, although I think list configurations (and >alm

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread Tokio Kikuchi
> In summary my preferences would be: > > Mailman 2.1.x supported on Python 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5. Drop support > for Python 2.1 and 2.2. We've done this accidentally in Mailman > 2.1.9, so let's make it official. > > Mailman 2.2 supported on Python 2.4 and 2.5. +1 -- Tokio Kikuchi, [EMAIL P

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail Man Help

2006-09-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Franky St. Pierre wrote: > >I am getting these errors when I >try bin/check_perms -f (-bash: bin/check_perms: @PYTHON@: bad >interpreter: No such file or directory) This means one of two things. Either something went terribly wrong with the configure, make install process or you are running bin/c

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can Google be used to search archives?

2006-09-27 Thread Dragon
Bob Bergey wrote: >Can Google Free Search be set up to use for searches of my Mailman >archives? How would I go about it? I searched the list archives here >but didn't find anything on the topic. > >Also, the list in question is a list where archives are set up to be >viewable only by current list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can Google be used to search archives?

2006-09-27 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 9/27/06, Bob Bergey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can Google Free Search be set up to use for searches of my Mailman > archives? How would I go about it? I searched the list archives here > but didn't find anything on the topic. > > Also, the list in question is a list where archives are set up t

[Mailman-Users] Can Google be used to search archives?

2006-09-27 Thread Bob Bergey
Can Google Free Search be set up to use for searches of my Mailman archives? How would I go about it? I searched the list archives here but didn't find anything on the topic. Also, the list in question is a list where archives are set up to be viewable only by current list members. Bob ---

Re: [Mailman-Users] Client wants unique archiving method

2006-09-27 Thread Elizabeth Schwartz
Oh nevermind, I am on crack. This wouldn't work. You'd still have to use some intermediate filter to decide what was a reply and what was an original. On 9/27/06, Elizabeth Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would think you could make it work "outside the system" by setting > reply-to-poste

Re: [Mailman-Users] mbox files in the archives

2006-09-27 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 15:29 -0400, Larry Johnson wrote: > I asked a similar question to this earlier (involving the g'zipped files > in the archives). I inherited administration of a mailman system (I'm a > solaris sysadmin) and have been trying to figure out the role of the > various files in the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Client wants unique archiving method

2006-09-27 Thread Elizabeth Schwartz
I would think you could make it work "outside the system" by setting reply-to-poster, then changing the alias for the list to go both to the list processing command, and to a dummy-user . Then pipe the dummy user's mail into something that is web-accessible. You could use another mailman list, and

Re: [Mailman-Users] mbox files in the archives

2006-09-27 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On 9/27/06, Dragon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The mbox files are where the messages used to build the archive HTML > files reside. > > If you remove them or edit them, you would not be able to rebuild > your archives the way they are if you ever had a need to do so. And, perhaps more importantl

Re: [Mailman-Users] mbox files in the archives

2006-09-27 Thread Dragon
Larry Johnson wrote: >What is the role of the *.mbox files in the archives? What would the >effect be of removing one? Of editing one (and removing older >messages)? They seem to grow continually. What is best practice for >managing them? End original message. -

[Mailman-Users] mbox files in the archives

2006-09-27 Thread Larry Johnson
I asked a similar question to this earlier (involving the g'zipped files in the archives). I inherited administration of a mailman system (I'm a solaris sysadmin) and have been trying to figure out the role of the various files in the archives, so that I know what I can clean out for space saving

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail going to list archives but not to list!

2006-09-27 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:56 AM -0400 9/27/06, Barry Warsaw wrote: > You've made this point before and each time you do, I remember > that it's a good one. :) Brad, would you mind adding this to > the Mailman 2.2 wiki page? Will do. > I think it's a worthy feature to add. Thanks!

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail Man Help

2006-09-27 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:50 AM -0500 9/27/06, Barry Finkel wrote: > Is there 2.1.8 code that has not > been ported to the Ubuntu 2.1.5-9? Dunno. You need to ask the people who created the binary package you're using. >Is there code that Ubun

Re: [Mailman-Users] Just want to verify ...

2006-09-27 Thread Brad Knowles
At 7:57 AM -0700 9/27/06, Mark Sapiro wrote: > This works fine for outgoing mail. Incoming mail is trickier. You have > to use something like fetchmail or some other process to get the mail > from the incoming MTA to mailman (Maybe NFS can be used, but I don't > offhand know if anyone has done

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail Man Help

2006-09-27 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 9/27/06, Barry Finkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the source(s) of these differences. Is there 2.1.8 code that has not > been ported to the Ubuntu 2.1.5-9? I don't know. This is up to the Ubuntu folk. *usually* the -9 means there have been 9 security patches to that version. How up to date thi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Daily admin post -- can it be weekly? (for low traffic lists)

2006-09-27 Thread Bretton Vine
Patrick Bogen said the following on 2006/09/27 05:03 PM: > It might be worth mentioning that, as the system administrator, some > low-impact spam filtering might be in order, to stop these messages > from even reaching Mailman. Exim blacklists (regularly updated) along with spamassassin and ACLs a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail going to list archives but not to list!

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 26, 2006, at 9:07 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > But you're still using a single directory as an on-disk queue, and > that single directory has to be completely locked, operated on, and > then unlocked every single time you want to create a new

Re: [Mailman-Users] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm including mailman-developers on this message, because I want to discuss the issue of which Python versions to support. On Sep 27, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Stubbs Jeff wrote: > Got a question. I picked up another Mac, so I'm going to rebuild my > list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail Man Help

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Finkel
Patrick Bogen replied to some posting: >(Also, Ubuntu should have a fairly recent version of Mailman in its >repositories. Are you using that, or did you download the source?) I have installed mailman_2.1.5-9ubuntu4.1 for testing. I installed via apt-get install mailman As I was not sure h

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail going to list archives but not to list!

2006-09-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Elizabeth Schwartz wrote: >I checked in last night and mailman was hung >again, but this time I saw that the OutgoingRunner process was missing, and >there are errors in the error log: The 'error' log or the 'qrunner' log? >Sep 23 08:10:17 2006 (2180) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit >(

[Mailman-Users] OS X & Mailman & Python

2006-09-27 Thread Stubbs Jeff
Greetings List, Got a question. I picked up another Mac, so I'm going to rebuild my list server from scratch, using Postfix 2.3.3 and Mailman 2.1.9. The default python install supplied by Apple is version 2.3.5. Last week or so , I noticed the version 2.4.3 was available from the Python we

Re: [Mailman-Users] Daily admin post -- can it be weekly? (for low traffic lists)

2006-09-27 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 9/27/06, Bretton Vine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A question that's come up from list administrators is the issue of the daily > administrative mail they get. In situations where the list is really low > volume (yet somehow the listname finds itself in a spam database) the list > owner is spend

Re: [Mailman-Users] MySQL or other backends

2006-09-27 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 9/25/06, Jeremy Leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does Mailman support using MySQL, LDAP or another SQL server for a backend? I believe there's a third-party patch/addon to use MySQL for storing membership information, although I think list configurations (and almost certainly archives) are

Re: [Mailman-Users] Just want to verify ...

2006-09-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Brad Knowles wrote: >At 2:29 PM -0600 9/26/06, Brandon Slaten wrote: > >> It is my >> understanding that Mailman needs to be installed on the same host that >> is running the mail server. Is this correct? > >It is a typical configuration, bu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail Man Help

2006-09-27 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 9/27/06, Franky St. Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used no arguments for the installation. I am not sure what went wrong... This might be your problem. I haven't installed from source, personally, but as I recall, you have to give configure several parameters, such as where files go, etc

Re: [Mailman-Users] obscuring list addresses on the listinfo page

2006-09-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
- Original Message --- Subject: [Mailman-Users] obscuring list addresses on the listinfo page From: Bretton Vine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 10:03:27 +0200 To: mailman-users@python.org >Another question (and this may be dumb, advance apologies) but how

Re: [Mailman-Users] Daily admin post -- can it be weekly? (for lowtraffic lists)

2006-09-27 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bretton Vine worte: >Is it possible to >make some lists send out admin requests only one a week as opposed to daily? The notices are sent by cron/checkdbs which is run via a crontab for the mailman user. You can easily change the frequency of this for all lists just by altering the crontab. To

[Mailman-Users] MySQL or other backends

2006-09-27 Thread Jeremy Leonard
Does Mailman support using MySQL, LDAP or another SQL server for a backend? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchab

[Mailman-Users] obscuring list addresses on the listinfo page

2006-09-27 Thread Bretton Vine
Another question (and this may be dumb, advance apologies) but how can one obscure the list addresses on the http://lists.domain.net/mailman/listinfo/listname page? + | Using listname | To post a message to all the list members, send e

[Mailman-Users] Daily admin post -- can it be weekly? (for low traffic lists)

2006-09-27 Thread Bretton Vine
A question that's come up from list administrators is the issue of the daily administrative mail they get. In situations where the list is really low volume (yet somehow the listname finds itself in a spam database) the list owner is spending X minutes a day discarding these mails while the list it