At 1:39 AM -0500 2006-09-01, Brad Knowles wrote:
> If you want to get into a diatribe about licensing, please be aware that
> I'm a BSD guy, and I've found myself surrounded by a bunch of GPL types,
> so license-wise I've tended to say pretty quiet.
Sorry, I meant "... stay pretty quiet". Tha
At 2:32 PM +0900 2006-09-01, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Excuse me? The GPL *explicitly* approves and authorizes (not to
> mention implicitly encourages) modification and redistribution without
> conditions other than providing source. That's exactly what "license"
> means.
Right, and they
Brad Knowles writes:
> At 10:06 AM -0700 2006-08-31, John W. Baxter quoted "Brad Knowles"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >> We're not a commercial environment, and we've actually had pretty bad
> >> experiences with people/companies that are in commercial environments
> >> taking our softwar
At 8:25 PM +0200 2006-08-31, Bretton Vine wrote:
> I view it differently. I have had great feedback and I highly doubt either
> of the parties mentioned viewed a response as a "restraining, difficult
> exercise". I /really/ use lists to their full advantage and with some in
> particular have n
At 8:44 PM +0200 2006-08-31, Bretton Vine wrote:
> The point I was illustrating is that if you have to justify the rationale
> behind a default setting to a third-party-decision-maker -- what is the most
> appropriate and concise response?
This is the key point that was not coming across to me
At 10:06 AM -0700 2006-08-31, John W. Baxter quoted "Brad Knowles"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> We're not a commercial environment, and we've actually had pretty bad
>> experiences with people/companies that are in commercial environments
>> taking our software and making unapproved modifications t
Tom Kavanaugh wrote:
>
>Is there a way to incorporate this change across all exisitng mail lists?
>I looked at commands in mailman/bin but did not find any command that could
>do this for me. Or, am I missing something?
First, you want to put
DEFAULT_OBSCURE_ADDRESSES = No
in mm_cfg.py so new l
Oliver König wrote:
>I am pretty sure that the mailman config is right and that
>there is a problem with the exim4 config. Non local subscribers cannot post
>to the list. The Exim4 log always says that relay is not permitted.
Yes, that would be an Exim config problem.
>Here are parts of my
Is there a way to incorporate this change across all exisitng mail lists?
I looked at commands in mailman/bin but did not find any command that could
do this for me. Or, am I missing something?
Later,
Tom
On 8/31/06, Tom Kavanaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> That workes!
> Thanks folks.
>
>
Hello,
I installed and configured mailman on Debian Sarge running apache2 and exim4.
I set up a list and the list adminstrator / owner can post to the list from a
remote client. I am pretty sure that the mailman config is right and that
there is a problem with the exim4 config. Non local subscri
That workes!
Thanks folks.
On 8/31/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tom Kavanaugh wrote:
> >
> >Currently "View subscribers list" displays members in the following
> format:
> >first.last at my.domain.com
> >
> >Is it possible to change the format to:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> in th
Steve Burling said the following on 2006/08/31 07:55 PM:
> Could we maybe leave this poor dead horse to rest in peace?
Only if I get a last word in edgewise :-)
> Apparently, many of the posters to this list believe (with some
> justification, imho) that it should take explicit action to undo sa
Dragon said the following on 2006/08/31 07:44 PM:
> The fact that people like Brad and Mark and others are willing to expend
> large amounts of their time responding to queries here should be taken as
> what it is, another gift to the community. I think they have gone above
and beyond the call of
>
Dragon said the following on 2006/08/31 07:44 PM:
> But if you don't like the defaults or have a reason to choose a
> different setting, you can change them at your own risk either through
> configuring each list or by overriding the setting in mm_cfg.py
I'm not criticising, and I'm more than will
--On August 31, 2006 7:08:22 PM +0200 Bretton Vine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Perhaps a list of "you /really/ should set these settings to X" would be
> useful to people short on time :-) Of course you could just bundle the
> product that way in the first place but where's the fun in that?
To
Bretton Vine sent the message below at 10:08 8/31/2006:
>John W. Baxter said the following on 2006/08/31 06:58 PM:
> > And, unfortunately, were I preparing a list of options for a "You really
> > ought to look at these options and check that they are set appropriately"
> > paragraph, I probably wou
Tom Kavanaugh wrote:
>
>Currently "View subscribers list" displays members in the following format:
>first.last at my.domain.com
>
>Is it possible to change the format to:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
in the list admin intervace set Privacy options...->Subscription
rules->obscure_addresses to No.
This wil
Gauvin, Scott wrote:
>Is there a way to add additional fields for the subscribers? I would
>like to also have the subscribers include their address and phone
>numbers. Is there a way to add these fields?
The only way without hacking Mailman code is to include this info as
part of the real name
Hello,
Currently "View subscribers list" displays members in the following format:
first.last at my.domain.com
Is it possible to change the format to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks
Tom
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John W. Baxter said the following on 2006/08/31 06:58 PM:
> And, unfortunately, were I preparing a list of options for a "You really
> ought to look at these options and check that they are set appropriately"
> paragraph, I probably wouldn't include this one. There are so many which
> are more imp
On 8/30/06 6:01 PM, "Brad Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We're not a commercial environment, and we've actually had pretty bad
> experiences with people/companies that are in commercial environments
> taking our software and making unapproved modifications to it, or
> providing the software
Is there a way to add additional fields for the subscribers? I would
like to also have the subscribers include their address and phone
numbers. Is there a way to add these fields?
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On 8/30/06 6:01 PM, "Brad Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The methods of open source development pre-date Richard Stallman and
> his GNU followers. Some of us remember those days.
For example, SHARE from the 1950s. At one point, MITs 704 (or 709 or 7090
by then) data center posted a notic
At 8:25 AM -0700 2006-08-31, Mark Sapiro quoted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> cd to Mailman's home, run "bin/show_qfiles dir_of_queue_in_question/*"
>
> Actually, in this case it would be
>
> bin/show_qfiles data/heldmsg*
To be pedantic, if the moderation queue is that large, then wildcard
expansio
Bretton Vine wrote:
>Mark Sapiro said the following on 2006/08/31 02:55 AM:
>
>> Do you have an actual message?
>
>Yes
>
>> Where did this message come from?
>
>A list-member, cc'd to non-list member (subsequently subbed)
It occurred to me that if the list has archives, the raw message as
sent t
Larry Stone wrote:
>
>Just a thought and I may be all wet here but is it possible the user is
>sending to an alias for the listname, possibly an alternative hostname for
>the machine, that mailman doesn't know is an acceptable alternative and
>therefore considers it to an implicit destination?
>
>F
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>cd to Mailman's home, run "bin/show_qfiles dir_of_queue_in_question/*"
Actually, in this case it would be
bin/show_qfiles data/heldmsg*
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San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sens
Need professional help finishing the installation of Mailman on my Fedora Core
5 server.
I have completed the install steps up to chapter 6 with no errors. Also have
Postfix installed and working.
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Brad Knowles writes:
> At 2:07 AM +0200 2006-08-31, Bretton Vine wrote:
>
> > (locally) it's been referred to as a "be strict in what you send, relaxed
> > in
> > what you receive" approach but not everyone adheres to (or is aware of)
> > this
> > way of looking at things and it seems
Attila Kinali writes:
> > Lastly, you could unpack each queue file in turn and simply rm the
> > ones you don't want to approve, although I would imagine this to be
> > quite a time-consuming process.
>
> This is about what i want to achieve.
> Could you give me a pointer on how to do this?
At 9:06 AM +0200 2006-08-31, Bretton Vine wrote:
> Well a lot has been generated in this discussion already, now it's just a
> case of summarising it and having someone edit. I like writing, and would
> happily contribute but I can drag on a bit so need a good editor :-P
Yeah, I have that prob
Brad Knowles said the following on 2006/08/31 05:36 AM:
> It's a known serious weak spot within the Mailman project, and we'd love
> to be able to resolve this issue, but that means we need to get some
> people onboard that are good at writing documentation. Any suggestions
> you may have in this
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