Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: spam filtering and email bouncing

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kinson Liu wrote: > >My question is simply why we are getting spams from >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ? And my question then is are these spams being delivered from your mailman list to the subscribers of that list or are they just spam that happens to spoof [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the originator. If they ar

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: spam filtering and email bouncing

2006-06-13 Thread Kinson Liu
My question is simply why we are getting spams from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Kinson Mark Sapiro wrote: > Kinson Liu wrote: > >> The product of my company uses mailman and we have been receiving spams >> > >from time to time. The spams are not directly from spammers, but > >> mailman-boun

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help: spam filtering and email bouncing

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kinson Liu wrote: > >The product of my company uses mailman and we have been receiving spams >from time to time. The spams are not directly from spammers, but >mailman-bounces and other valid list with -bounces at the end of the >list name. We've been looking through bounce processing on the adm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Aliases not working

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lawrence Bowie wrote: > >Thank you Mark. That worked. Do I also have to put the aliases, > >old-list-admin >old-list-bounces >old-list-confirm >old-list-join >old-list-leave >old-list-owner >old-list-request >old-list-subscribe >old-list-unsubscribe > >that point to, > >new-list-admin >new-list-bou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 17:36 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 11:38 PM +0200 2006-06-13, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: [...] > >>You would also need to make sure that the first instance of > >> sendmail (or whatever MTA) is not configured to generate Delivery > >> Status Notices (DSNs) for delayed m

[Mailman-Users] Help: spam filtering and email bouncing

2006-06-13 Thread Kinson Liu
Hi there, The product of my company uses mailman and we have been receiving spams from time to time. The spams are not directly from spammers, but mailman-bounces and other valid list with -bounces at the end of the list name. We've been looking through bounce processing on the admin part, b

Re: [Mailman-Users] Aliases not working

2006-06-13 Thread Lawrence Bowie
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Lawrence Bowie wrote: > > >>I have been getting rid of lists lately and I need >>to forward old lists to the new lists. I am using >>mailman 2.1.6 and the forwards are not working. >>I also recently upgraded the OS from Debian to SuSE 10.0. > > > > How are you forwarding?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:42 PM +0200 2006-06-13, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > First you throw the 22.000 mail in the mail queue. And the normal queue > run will deliver these emails + all others in the queue. So you probably > want to limit the queue runner anyways (say not more than 100 - or > whatever works good

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:38 PM +0200 2006-06-13, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: >> I think that this would require a second MTA instance -- the > > You want that probably anyway since you probably don't want your MTA > accept 22.000 emails on a public interface in one rush (and I actually > don't remember out of m

Re: [Mailman-Users] new users get welcome e-mails but posts aren'tgoing out

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Nathan K. Stazewski wrote: >I just did a fresh install of Mailman 2.1.8 >on OS X 10.4 (Tiger). I have it to the point where I can create lists >through the web interface and sign people up for the lists. When I >subscribe an address to a list (or create a new list) an e-mail is sent >and re

Re: [Mailman-Users] sending attachment as link

2006-06-13 Thread Haluk Durmus
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 15:37:25 -0700 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Haluk Durmus wrote: > > > >can mailman change attachmets to links also for outgoing mails similar to > >the mail archive. > > > Yes. In the list's admin interface, set Non-digest > options->scrub_nondigest to Yes. > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] sending attachment as link

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Haluk Durmus wrote: > >can mailman change attachmets to links also for outgoing mails similar to the >mail archive. Yes. In the list's admin interface, set Non-digest options->scrub_nondigest to Yes. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area,

[Mailman-Users] sending attachment as link

2006-06-13 Thread Haluk Durmus
Hello, can mailman change attachmets to links also for outgoing mails similar to the mail archive. thx, Haluk -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.

[Mailman-Users] new users get welcome e-mails but posts aren't going out

2006-06-13 Thread Nathan K. Stazewski
I apologize if this is in the archives. I searched for a while and couldn't find this issue. I just did a fresh install of Mailman 2.1.8 on OS X 10.4 (Tiger). I have it to the point where I can create lists through the web interface and sign people up for the lists. When I subscribe an add

Re: [Mailman-Users] Aliases not working

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lawrence Bowie wrote: >I have been getting rid of lists lately and I need >to forward old lists to the new lists. I am using >mailman 2.1.6 and the forwards are not working. >I also recently upgraded the OS from Debian to SuSE 10.0. How are you forwarding? What's not working? Note that if the n

[Mailman-Users] Aliases not working

2006-06-13 Thread Lawrence Bowie
I have been getting rid of lists lately and I need to forward old lists to the new lists. I am using mailman 2.1.6 and the forwards are not working. I also recently upgraded the OS from Debian to SuSE 10.0. Any ideas anyone?? Thanks, LDB -- Ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 11:39 -0400, Steve Campbell wrote: [...] > Sounds great. In fact, this is sort of what the Milter people suggested > without the milter, although I didn't see where the throttling would occur. First you throw the 22.000 mail in the mail queue. And the normal queue run will d

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 10:18 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 3:17 PM +0200 2006-06-13, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 09:06 -0400, Steve Campbell wrote: > > [...] > >> Does anyone have a suggestion for throttling? > > > > Just store the 22.000 outgoing mails in the mail qu

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachments created by Mailman?

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Everything now works fine, except -- when I send an HTML email, >Mailman seems to duplicate my images (which I have NOT included as >attachments--they're hosted on the Web) and send them along as >attachments. I'm afraid that my subscribers won't even want to ope

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman locking up with "too many files open"

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ian Johnson wrote: > >I've been running a mailman list (for broadcast only) lately, and >recently had a post that jammed up the system. Mailman would respond to >other list requests, but the admin pages for the list in question would >not appear, and the list itself was unresponsive. This is the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Steve Campbell
David, Thanks for the reply. - Original Message - From: "Dave Stern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Steve Campbell wrote: > >> Bernd, >> - Or

[Mailman-Users] attachments created by Mailman?

2006-06-13 Thread mail
I would be ever so grateful if someone can help me with this. I've spent many hours -- days, actually -- setting up a one-way newsletter. Everything now works fine, except -- when I send an HTML email, Mailman seems to duplicate my images (which I have NOT included as attachments--they're h

[Mailman-Users] mailman locking up with "too many files open"

2006-06-13 Thread Ian Johnson
Hello, I've been running a mailman list (for broadcast only) lately, and recently had a post that jammed up the system. Mailman would respond to other list requests, but the admin pages for the list in question would not appear, and the list itself was unresponsive. This is the error message

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:39 PM -0400 2006-06-13, Peter C.S. Adams wrote: > Thus spake Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, circa 6/13/2006 2:14 PM: >> Sendmail, postfix, and Exim are all good MTAs. For 99.% of >> what any site is likely to do, any of these programs should be more >> than adequate. > > Brad, an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Peter C.S. Adams
Thus spake Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, circa 6/13/2006 2:14 PM: > Sendmail, postfix, and Exim are all good MTAs. For 99.% of > what any site is likely to do, any of these programs should be more > than adequate. Brad, any thoughts on LSMTP from L-Soft? Thanks, peter --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:22 PM -0400 2006-06-13, Dave Stern wrote: > 'Course now we're turning to linux and are considering using postfix > instead but the theory is the same. Out-of-the-box, I believe that postfix is a better MTA to use for hosting mailing lists, because configuring sendmail to work well

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Dave Stern
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Steve Campbell wrote: > Bernd, > - Original Message - > From: "Bernd Petrovitsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output > > >> On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 09:06 -0400, Steve Campbell wrote: >> [...]

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.4

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Bob Bergey wrote: >I have more than a dozen lists running in Mailman 2.1.4 on my Xserve, >all running fine, except that now on just one list I'm unable to >access the admin pages. The list is still sending messages okay, >individual subscribers can access their subscription options, >archives

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web based interface not working

2006-06-13 Thread John W. Baxter
On 6/13/06 12:24 AM, "jon lanclos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I click on the link to go to the web interface - I get the following > message ... > > Safari can¹t open the page > ³http://mail.corporates.com/mailman/admindb/everyone² because it could not > connect to the server ³mail.corpora

[Mailman-Users] Bug in Mailman 2.1.4

2006-06-13 Thread Bob Bergey
I have more than a dozen lists running in Mailman 2.1.4 on my Xserve, all running fine, except that now on just one list I'm unable to access the admin pages. The list is still sending messages okay, individual subscribers can access their subscription options, archives are fine, etc. -- but I

Re: [Mailman-Users] edit held messages

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Haluk Durmus > >you are right ! >May by I should then firt ask in Mailman Developers, if there is some on who >is currently working >on this task There is an RFE at . It is currently unassigned, but

Re: [Mailman-Users] edit held messages

2006-06-13 Thread Haluk Durmus
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:42:58 -0700 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Haluk Durmus wrote: > > > >... so I must implemet it selfe four our use. > > > >But its nice to know that there will be soon a professional solution. > > > If you are going to do this yourself, the quickest way to get t

Re: [Mailman-Users] edit held messages

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Haluk Durmus wrote: > >... so I must implemet it selfe four our use. > >But its nice to know that there will be soon a professional solution. If you are going to do this yourself, the quickest way to get this into the base is to contribute your changes back. While some of us may be professional

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Steve Campbell
Bernd, - Original Message - From: "Bernd Petrovitsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output > On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 09:06 -0400, Steve Campbell wrote: > [...] >> Does anyone have a suggestion for throttling? > > Just

Re: [Mailman-Users] edit held messages

2006-06-13 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 6/13/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are all FAQ maintainers. The FAQ is maintained by the community on > the honor system, much like a wiki. The password is right there on the > bottom of every page. > I never noticed it there. That would've been quite helpful the one or two tim

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 6/13/06, Steve Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The failure code is 450 4.7.1. I would probably set the SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = > "some very small number" also to allow only small amounts at one time. > > So, assuming that the milter works properly, and it takes one hundred loops > for the milter

Re: [Mailman-Users] edit held messages

2006-06-13 Thread Haluk Durmus
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:27:10 -0700 Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Patrick Bogen wrote: > > >On 6/13/06, Haluk Durmus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm looking for a chance to do it with the admin interface. > > > >As far as I know, there is currently no way to do this. (The > >previou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:17 PM +0200 2006-06-13, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 09:06 -0400, Steve Campbell wrote: > [...] >> Does anyone have a suggestion for throttling? > > Just store the 22.000 outgoing mails in the mail queue (every decent MTA > should be able to do that unconditionally) a

Re: [Mailman-Users] edit held messages

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Patrick Bogen wrote: >On 6/13/06, Haluk Durmus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm looking for a chance to do it with the admin interface. > >As far as I know, there is currently no way to do this. (The >previously linked FAQ entry corroborates this.) But it is on the ToDo list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Using Mailman as list-admin

2006-06-13 Thread Hung Phan
On Jun 13, 2006, at 7:10 AM, Michael wrote: > Hello, > > I just installed mailman and now I want to create some lists, but I > want to use mailman more or less as a distribution-list-admin-tool > + mail-archive. > So I want to > - create the listmembers (no welcome-message should be seent to t

Re: [Mailman-Users] edit held messages

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
Patrick Bogen wrote: > >(P.S. to our FAQ managing-type folks: A search for 'edit held' or >'edit held message' didn't bring up this FAQ entry, with the default >search settings. Switching to 'keywords (any)' worked alright. I'm not >sure if this is considered an issue.) Two things here. We are a

Re: [Mailman-Users] edit held messages

2006-06-13 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 6/13/06, Haluk Durmus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking for a chance to do it with the admin interface. As far as I know, there is currently no way to do this. (The previously linked FAQ entry corroborates this.) -- - Patrick Bogen --

Re: [Mailman-Users] edit held messages

2006-06-13 Thread Haluk Durmus
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:46:24 -0500 "Patrick Bogen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/13/06, Haluk Durmus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it posible to configure mailman to edit mails waiting for approval ? > > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.009.htp > > (P.S. to ou

Re: [Mailman-Users] Web based interface not working

2006-06-13 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 6/13/06, jon lanclos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://mail.corporates.com/mailman/admindb/everyone > Safari can¹t open the page > ³http://mail.corporates.com/mailman/admindb/everyone² because it could not > connect to the server ³mail.corporates.com². > Assuming that 'mail.corporates.co

Re: [Mailman-Users] edit held messages

2006-06-13 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 6/13/06, Haluk Durmus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it posible to configure mailman to edit mails waiting for approval ? http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.009.htp (P.S. to our FAQ managing-type folks: A search for 'edit held' or 'edit held message' didn't bring up

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 6/13/06, Steve Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But what will Mailman do when I send to 20,000 and the milter starts > temp-failing after the limit is reached? Does it see these as bounces? Will > it insert the pending emails into the sendmail queue or fail? > Assuming your MTA returns a f

Re: [Mailman-Users] Using Mailman as list-admin

2006-06-13 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 13 Jun 2006 14:10:42 -, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - create the listmembers (no welcome-message should be seent to them) http:///cgi-bin/mailman/admin//members/add Choose 'No' for 'Send welcome messages...' and 'Send notifications...' > - only I am allowed to send mail to the list

[Mailman-Users] Using Mailman as list-admin

2006-06-13 Thread Michael
Hello, I just installed mailman and now I want to create some lists, but I want to use mailman more or less as a distribution-list-admin-tool + mail-archive. So I want to - create the listmembers (no welcome-message should be seent to them) - only I am allowed to send mail to the list (is there a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 09:06 -0400, Steve Campbell wrote: [...] > Does anyone have a suggestion for throttling? Just store the 22.000 outgoing mails in the mail queue (every decent MTA should be able to do that unconditionally) and wait for the next queue run? Bernd -- Firmix Software Gmb

[Mailman-Users] edit held messages

2006-06-13 Thread Haluk Durmus
Hello, Is it posible to configure mailman to edit mails waiting for approval ? thx. Haluk -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faq

[Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Steve Campbell
I may have a need to throttle the output of a list which sends out about 22,000 emails when called upon. I have tried the milter-limit from Snert, and it seems to work, but since this is designed mostly for incoming-limits as opposed to outgoing, I'm not sure what the consequences are for Mailma

[Mailman-Users] Web based interface not working

2006-06-13 Thread jon lanclos
I try and use the login of ... /mailman/admin/ I have a list called everyone and leasing. I cannot login as administrator and edit the list, nor can I respond to administrative alerts which are sent to me as the administrator. I'm getting admin mail which looks like this ... The [EMAIL PR